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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 29, 2010 10:18am
Only beer I drink which means I only drink about one time of the year.killer_ewok wrote:If it's a Leinenkugel's Fireside Nut Brown......you're on.BR1986FB wrote:Ewok is FAR from a blind homer (responding to SYL). He's probably the MOST objective Steeler fan on here. He's actually one of maybe two Steeler fans that I'd sit down with and buy a beer for (without spitting in it).killer_ewok wrote: I'm a mindless moronic homer? LOL. Riiiiiiight.![]()
The feeling is mutual. You hate my team and I hate your team...........but that doesn't mean that we can't respect each other. It is possible to push that hatred to the background for a bit to be somewhat objective and reasonable.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 29, 2010 10:31am
Looking like Santonio Holmes being accused of something too...
http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/03/29/25949.htm
http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/03/29/25949.htm

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Mar 29, 2010 12:26pm
and Capone says them "bungals" are thugs.

Strapping Young Lad
Posts: 2,453
Mar 29, 2010 1:46pm
Gotta love some good violence against women, eh Crapon???? You're more into the sexual violence against young boys thing, I know. But this is pretty good too don't you agree????
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rock_knutne
Mar 29, 2010 2:53pm
Strapping Young Lad wrote: Gotta love some good violence against women, eh Crapon???? You're more into the sexual violence against young boys thing, I know. But this is pretty good too don't you agree????
I'm not defending Capone what so ever but you're a complete ass wipe "strap on". The name calling and bashing is one thing but accusing someone of being a pedophile is going too far in my book.
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Al Capone
Posts: 1,727
Mar 29, 2010 3:01pm
I've learned to ignore strap on. He sounds like an immature little punk.rock_knutne wrote:Strapping Young Lad wrote: Gotta love some good violence against women, eh Crapon???? You're more into the sexual violence against young boys thing, I know. But this is pretty good too don't you agree????
I'm not defending Capone what so ever but you're a complete ass wipe "strap on". The name calling and bashing is one thing but accusing someone of being a pedophile is going too far in my book.
And yes, the accusations shouldn't be allowed on here.

killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Mar 29, 2010 3:02pm
I heard that Holmes thing on the radio this morning. The Orlando police refused to write a report. Sounds like BS on her part. Not because he's a Steeler and I'm a fan but the police didn't think it was necessary to write a report so what really could've happened?

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 29, 2010 3:08pm
They didn't want to take him in for throwing liquid in her face. I've seen it happen at bars and the cops just tell them to go home.killer_ewok wrote: I heard that Holmes thing on the radio this morning. The Orlando police refused to write a report. Sounds like BS on her part. Not because he's a Steeler and I'm a fan but the police didn't think it was necessary to write a report so what really could've happened?

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Mar 29, 2010 3:10pm
I had a girl throw a drink in my face last summer. She thought I was someone else when I bumped into her. Oh yeah...I was also temporarily blinded.
Anyone know a good lawyer? I need to file a civl suit ASAP.
Anyone know a good lawyer? I need to file a civl suit ASAP.

killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Mar 29, 2010 3:13pm
So basically it's not a big deal and the cops tend to handle it that way.LJ wrote:They didn't want to take him in for throwing liquid in her face. I've seen it happen at bars and the cops just tell them to go home.killer_ewok wrote: I heard that Holmes thing on the radio this morning. The Orlando police refused to write a report. Sounds like BS on her part. Not because he's a Steeler and I'm a fan but the police didn't think it was necessary to write a report so what really could've happened?
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rock_knutne
Mar 29, 2010 3:13pm
That law suit was filed days ago and when the Steelers PR man was aked about it today during team workouts, he had no comment because the orginazation had in fact just found out about it today.LJ wrote:They didn't want to take him in for throwing liquid in her face. I've seen it happen at bars and the cops just tell them to go home.killer_ewok wrote: I heard that Holmes thing on the radio this morning. The Orlando police refused to write a report. Sounds like BS on her part. Not because he's a Steeler and I'm a fan but the police didn't think it was necessary to write a report so what really could've happened?
Holmes isn't a saint by any stretch but this sounds like complete BS to me.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 29, 2010 3:18pm
Yep. Look for him to settle out of court. It's not a big deal, but will probably get sat for a game just because of his past. I wouldn't think of it as a big deal no matter what player did it, because in the normal world, absolutely nothing would come of it.killer_ewok wrote:So basically it's not a big deal and the cops tend to handle it that way.LJ wrote:They didn't want to take him in for throwing liquid in her face. I've seen it happen at bars and the cops just tell them to go home.killer_ewok wrote: I heard that Holmes thing on the radio this morning. The Orlando police refused to write a report. Sounds like BS on her part. Not because he's a Steeler and I'm a fan but the police didn't think it was necessary to write a report so what really could've happened?

ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Mar 29, 2010 3:19pm
I understand Steeler fans trying to downplay a seemingly non-issue, I really do. Tossing liquid in someones face because they won't give up their spot on the couch I guess isn't a big deal except the glass that contained the liquid followed shortly after.
I guess I'm in the minority that think the Rooney's and Goodell might view both of these cases as failure to control, multiple incidents by two different players that are clearly detrimental to the team/NFL. I suppose Steeler fans could look favorably on the Santonio issue as at least Goodell and the Rooneys will have one player they can "set example" with other than their starting QB. With the focus "appearances" by the league (Goodell) I would find it quite amazing were there NO infractions imposed by him or the Rooney's.
Just my opinion. Rip me apart.
I guess I'm in the minority that think the Rooney's and Goodell might view both of these cases as failure to control, multiple incidents by two different players that are clearly detrimental to the team/NFL. I suppose Steeler fans could look favorably on the Santonio issue as at least Goodell and the Rooneys will have one player they can "set example" with other than their starting QB. With the focus "appearances" by the league (Goodell) I would find it quite amazing were there NO infractions imposed by him or the Rooney's.
Just my opinion. Rip me apart.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 29, 2010 3:24pm
I'm not trying to downplay anything. He's a moron, that's for sure, but I've seen this happen tons of times in bars and the cops NEVER do anything about it. To say that a he said/ she said no police report incident is going to get a player released is funny. I would say that about any player at any program.

ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Mar 29, 2010 3:30pm
It's a non-issue, were it an issue it wouldn't have waited two weeks. My point lies more with appearances that the league and Goodell are puting forth. Now there are 2 players from one team with similar issues in treating women poorly in public, whether they're true or not IS NOT the issue I think Goodell will focus on, rather the appearance of impropriety. Doesn't mean it's right, just what I think the league is looking to avoid now and in the future, at least under Goodell.

Strapping Young Lad
Posts: 2,453
Mar 29, 2010 4:24pm
I am a punk, but I never assaulted a girl or a child. More than I can say for some people........Al Capone wrote:I've learned to ignore strap on. He sounds like an immature little punk.rock_knutne wrote:Strapping Young Lad wrote: Gotta love some good violence against women, eh Crapon???? You're more into the sexual violence against young boys thing, I know. But this is pretty good too don't you agree????
I'm not defending Capone what so ever but you're a complete ass wipe "strap on". The name calling and bashing is one thing but accusing someone of being a pedophile is going too far in my book.
And yes, the accusations shouldn't be allowed on here.

Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Mar 29, 2010 4:37pm
The Holmes thing would carry less weight if he didn't already have a poor history.
He's not credible. Period.
Now, do I think there's anything here that in and of itself is worth a bunch of attention? Nope. Just saying that with Big Jen and Santonio you've got two guys WITH A HISTORY of doing stupid things. Not once or twice, but multiple times.
He's not credible. Period.
Now, do I think there's anything here that in and of itself is worth a bunch of attention? Nope. Just saying that with Big Jen and Santonio you've got two guys WITH A HISTORY of doing stupid things. Not once or twice, but multiple times.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Mar 29, 2010 4:40pm
We all knew that Dookie holmes wasnt the most responsible guy. Didn the have like 3 kids while still in college?
Anyways...very easily coulda been tossing a drink in a womans face...not cool mind you..and the glass slipponig out of his hands.
As a steelers fan I am pissed to alway see this news out there about my fav team.
Anyways...very easily coulda been tossing a drink in a womans face...not cool mind you..and the glass slipponig out of his hands.
As a steelers fan I am pissed to alway see this news out there about my fav team.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 29, 2010 4:42pm
I don't think anyone is saying he didn't do it. I think the problem is how the girl is saying that the Orlando police pleaded with her to not file charges because he is a celebrity. They were probably both drunk and the cops most likely told them to both cut it out. Then the issue is she is suing everyone and their brother over this, she is suing the bar as well. In other words, it's the kind of incident that demands some sprints and a fine from the league, but this money grubbing women took it to another level.Writerbuckeye wrote: The Holmes thing would carry less weight if he didn't already have a poor history.
He's not credible. Period.
Now, do I think there's anything here that in and of itself is worth a bunch of attention? Nope. Just saying that with Big Jen and Santonio you've got two guys WITH A HISTORY of doing stupid things. Not once or twice, but multiple times.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Mar 29, 2010 4:55pm
I was unaware that police wait to see if the offender will pay off the victim before issuing a warrant.Al Bundy wrote:Or it could be that Ben is trying to work out a payoff with the girl.rock_knutne wrote:I wish something would happen one way or the other. Either drop the charges or issue a warrant for his arrest. This drawn out process is a joke which leads me to believe the accusations brought against Ben are a joke.I Wear Pants wrote: So is there any new actual information on the situation?

skank
Posts: 6,543
Mar 29, 2010 5:08pm
Did Ben Rape anybody TODAY?

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 29, 2010 6:40pm
YES!!!!skank wrote: Did Ben Rape anybody TODAY?
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Al Capone
Posts: 1,727
Mar 29, 2010 8:10pm
removed by wes_mantooth ***Personal Attack, Name calling***Strapping Young Lad wrote:I am a punk, but I never assaulted a girl or a child. More than I can say for some people........Al Capone wrote:I've learned to ignore strap on. He sounds like an immature little punk.rock_knutne wrote:Strapping Young Lad wrote: Gotta love some good violence against women, eh Crapon???? You're more into the sexual violence against young boys thing, I know. But this is pretty good too don't you agree????
I'm not defending Capone what so ever but you're a complete ass wipe "strap on". The name calling and bashing is one thing but accusing someone of being a pedophile is going too far in my book.
And yes, the accusations shouldn't be allowed on here.

wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Mar 29, 2010 8:29pm
This has steadily gone downhill....