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Head_Knight

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134 posts
Mar 1, 2010 9:43 AM
I also have a problem with this selection process... I have a 2X State Qualifier that was a Sectional and District Champ with a 49-1 record... He was not even an Honorable Mention because he was out voted by the OCC coaches... The #1 at 215 was a 2X State placer, so that's legit, but I'm pretty sure no other wrestler in that weight was a qualifier last year and I know none of them have the 49-1 record... He was out voted by kids that were finishing 3rd at the district.... Here's how it worked... All OCC coaches voted for eachother and the rest of us were left for dead... It wasn't based on criteria, it was based on if you were in the OCC on not...
Mar 1, 2010 9:43am
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hizzmuther

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215 posts
Mar 1, 2010 10:03 AM
As much as I wanna know and my wrestler wants to know, it is his coach's job to tell him one way or the other. And I'm saving that friend at the Dispatch until I really need him... like to work a career day or something... or to teach my kid about jobs in sports communications.

The waiting for Thursday is "killing" me, so this will just add a little more suspense to the pot.

It is wonderful to know that you guys (mostly coaches I would assume) care about this enough to be concerned with the process. Maybe we need a D1 team and a D2/D3 team.
Mar 1, 2010 10:03am
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Head_Knight

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134 posts
Mar 1, 2010 10:07 AM
I think some of these coaches need to put their ego on the back burner... The kids are the ones who are losing out....
Mar 1, 2010 10:07am
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ksig489

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943 posts
Mar 1, 2010 10:15 AM
D1 OCC rules this selection process...always has, always will.
Mar 1, 2010 10:15am
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Head_Knight

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134 posts
Mar 1, 2010 10:21 AM
And that's the problem!!!!!!
Mar 1, 2010 10:21am
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Head_Knight

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134 posts
Mar 1, 2010 10:22 AM
What time is the picture anyway??? I saw on the CDWCA page it said 2:00pm... That can't be right!!!
Mar 1, 2010 10:22am
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Dad4Sports

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1,779 posts
Mar 1, 2010 11:05 AM
Head_Knight wrote: I also have a problem with this selection process... I have a 2X State Qualifier that was a Sectional and District Champ with a 49-1 record... He was not even an Honorable Mention because he was out voted by the OCC coaches... The #1 at 215 was a 2X State placer, so that's legit, but I'm pretty sure no other wrestler in that weight was a qualifier last year and I know none of them have the 49-1 record... He was out voted by kids that were finishing 3rd at the district.... Here's how it worked... All OCC coaches voted for eachother and the rest of us were left for dead... It wasn't based on criteria, it was based on if you were in the OCC on not...
That doesn't sound good at all.....hope your 119 didn't suffer the same fate...
Mar 1, 2010 11:05am
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cruiser_96

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7,536 posts
Mar 1, 2010 11:11 AM
ksig489 wrote: D1 OCC rules this selection process...always has, always will.
;) ...and don't you forget it!!! :D

I agree that it is unfortunate. I kind of wish we had a better way to solve it. I'm not 100% sure what that is or what it would look like but I would like to see the best kid nominated for the spot.
Mar 1, 2010 11:11am
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Cradleman

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23 posts
Mar 1, 2010 11:12 AM
The photo will be taken at Westland, Tuesday, March 2, at 7pm. All first team wrestlers are to be there with uniform. It doesn't take long to take the photo, so don't arrive late.
Mar 1, 2010 11:12am
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USMCdevil05

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904 posts
Mar 1, 2010 11:36 AM
Good idea Hizzmuther. See you guys thursday
Mar 1, 2010 11:36am
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MDB81861

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17 posts
Mar 1, 2010 3:22 PM
Answers come easy when you are not involved with the process, but can judge the out come. I sat in that room for many years,, there is and was no over riding agenda to get a kid in or a school in. Those people are coaches who care about kids, and they make there decisions on what they have seen and what they feel is right. I have been voted over before, so has every coach in that room. In a --close-- vote every coach believes his boy is better, In --ANY--vote the parent beleives that thier son is best. In any close call the ref was wrong to the loser. That is just the way it is... I believe in that process and the people making those decisions
Mar 1, 2010 3:22pm
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Varsityfan32

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97 posts
Mar 1, 2010 3:27 PM
predictions on who will be on the first team ?
Mar 1, 2010 3:27pm
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sackerdrag_135

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95 posts
Mar 1, 2010 4:53 PM
MDB81861 wrote: Answers come easy when you are not involved with the process, but can judge the out come. I sat in that room for many years,, there is and was no over riding agenda to get a kid in or a school in. Those people are coaches who care about kids, and they make there decisions on what they have seen and what they feel is right. I have been voted over before, so has every coach in that room. In a --close-- vote every coach believes his boy is better, In --ANY--vote the parent beleives that thier son is best. In any close call the ref was wrong to the loser. That is just the way it is... I believe in that process and the people making those decisions
Well said.
Mar 1, 2010 4:53pm
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bush

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58 posts
Mar 1, 2010 5:46 PM
I have a kid every year that sould be on there somewhere but quit going for the reason thta DI always get there kids in. The best way to pick them would be have a meeting to picks the top five kids in each weight class then let all coaches in the central district vote like we do for sectionals on line.
Mar 1, 2010 5:46pm
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BuzzBomb285

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21 posts
Mar 1, 2010 8:23 PM
well since i cant see it i would have to make some guesses...

someone who has seen it let me know how close i am...


103- Marsico (possibly Fiorucci?)
112- Boyd (Timchenko and Wilson should be next, followed closely by McHugh and possibly the very underrated McDougle)
119- Heminger (or atleast it should be...could also be Disabato)
125- McCombs (obvious choice, as be beat 2nd best Boehm soundly twice)
130- Kunzi (could be Taylor, but i think Jay's head to head win will give him the nod)
135- Higgins (could be any number of guys, including Gualtieri or Barlow, Higgins win over Wolfe gives him the nod)
140- Languis (no doubt, Marsico next, then possibly Strayer?)
145- Grandiminico (would be tough to pick between Grandiminico and Rosch...possibly Luft or Green as well)
152- Prather (could also be Gordon, Hetterschiedt, Worley)
160- Marsh (hands down, Liedecker second, Jared Wilson next???)
172- Demas (nothing else to be said, i'm guessing Furguson and Bailey next, in some order)
189- Justus (i woulda givin it to Blankenship, easily, but it could also be Brown from Gahanna)
215- Weeks (possibly Fabry on this list too, maybe Lamancusa and Cullen as well)
285- Karageorge (light years ahead of everyone else, Marrero and Schramm are next, unless Sheridan is in on this...which i don't believe they are)
Mar 1, 2010 8:23pm
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Varsityfan32

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97 posts
Mar 1, 2010 8:41 PM
buzzbomb285 Fiorucci or Marsico would be a toss up both tough wrestlers also would definetly consider Murdock DC behind those two guys
Mar 1, 2010 8:41pm
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BuzzBomb285

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21 posts
Mar 1, 2010 8:46 PM
Varsityfan32 wrote: buzzbomb285 Fiorucci or Marsico would be a toss up both tough wrestlers also would definetly consider Murdock DC behind those two guys

oh definatly, they are all three right there...with Marsico just a nose ahead...
Mar 1, 2010 8:46pm
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Dirtyscramble

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328 posts
Mar 1, 2010 9:50 PM
Gualtieri got first team with Higgins Second, How did they decide that and Barlow got 3rd team and has a win over Gualtieri i dont get
Mar 1, 2010 9:50pm
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hang_loose

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802 posts
Mar 1, 2010 10:13 PM
Dirtyscramble, do you have anymore info???
Mar 1, 2010 10:13pm
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Dirtyscramble

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328 posts
Mar 1, 2010 10:16 PM
Nope i just know what i know
Mar 1, 2010 10:16pm
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samuel adams

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47 posts
Mar 2, 2010 12:02 AM
Conrad Rosch got 1st team at 145
Mar 2, 2010 12:02am
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USMCdevil05

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904 posts
Mar 2, 2010 1:59 AM
now the cats are coming out of the bag since one person said something! lol
Mar 2, 2010 1:59am
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hizzmuther

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215 posts
Mar 2, 2010 8:37 AM
No... the kids were told by their coaches yesterday.... They know the ones they know....
Mar 2, 2010 8:37am
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ksig489

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943 posts
Mar 2, 2010 9:35 AM
Barlow didnt get 3rd...3rd and HM were d1 kids
Mar 2, 2010 9:35am
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Dirtyscramble

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328 posts
Mar 2, 2010 10:07 AM
Sisler and Gill?
Mar 2, 2010 10:07am