born that waydevil1197 wrote: Real question:
Is hating gay's a choice or are you born that way?
That 2,000 year old book, The Holy Bible, is God's word, and to denounce His word is to denounce Him. You put the words in your own mouth. The Buddhists/Hinduists used God's words to define Karma.Big_Mirg_ZHS wrote:Series62 wrote:You don't think it's a sin!?Big_Mirg_ZHS wrote:Well for something to be a sin someone judged it bad. I dont agree with it being bad.jmog wrote:How is saying its a sin judging? Learn the definition of sin and judge.Big_Mirg_ZHS wrote:
So being gay is a sin eh? I love how christians are not supposed to judge yet thats what they spend most of their time doing.
Reiterating what the Bible says about homosexuality is not judging.
Now, if he said "all those homos are going to hell and are dispicable" then you'd have a point.
"Sin is often used to mean an action that is prohibited or considered wrong;"
Judge: to form an opinion of; He has an opinion that its a sin. He says its a sin so he obviously thinks its wrong. There is my logic. Im catholic but i still dont think its a sin. And i still think ill go to heaven not because my brother is in to dudes and I don't sit there telling him how awful of a human being he is.
Do catholics read the Bible at all or do they just let the priest to read and interpret it to them?Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Jesus believed in Karma, I never said i dont live by Gods word, I just said i dont live my life based on a 2,000 year old book. I never once denouced God in Any way. Nice way to put words into my mouth. Nice try though.Series62 wrote:He made the statement that his life is not influenced by God's Word, which is to say his life is not influenced by God. Thereby, he does not accept Jesus as Lord and Savior. It's not a self-righteous judgment at all, it is a statement of truth based upon his own words.cbus4life wrote:I know.majorspark wrote:If you read that whole passage in its context, it is speaking of making self-righteous/hypocritcal judments of others.cbus4life wrote: I thought you were supposed to let God do that judging? Judge not lest you be judged?
And he seems to be making self-righteous judgments of others, the way i'm reading it.
Jesus will do the judging and He does not judge by your Karma.
Whether catholicism is the largest religion in the world or not matters not, as it does not hold true to the Bible in entirety either. If you studied the Bible you would be enlightened to some truths and stop making your own assinine statements.Mr Pat wrote: Nothing like taking a shot and making an assinine statement on the largest religion in the world because you disagree with one of them. Cool guy!
NO!, I do however know what His word says regarding this sin and others.Writerbuckeye wrote: Gotta love religious folks who absolutely, positively, without question KNOW how God thinks and feels.
Amazing.
Series62 wrote:He made the statement that his life is not influenced by God's Word, which is to say his life is not influenced by God. Thereby, he does not accept Jesus as Lord and Savior. It's not a self-righteous judgment at all, it is a statement of truth based upon his own words.cbus4life wrote:I know.majorspark wrote:If you read that whole passage in its context, it is speaking of making self-righteous/hypocritcal judments of others.cbus4life wrote: I thought you were supposed to let God do that judging? Judge not lest you be judged?
And he seems to be making self-righteous judgments of others, the way i'm reading it.
Jesus will do the judging and He does not judge by your Karma.
The Bible teaches Christians to love their fellow man, but we are not to love sin. I do not love the sin that I am wont to commit. I strive not to commit sin, though at times I do, I don't however practice it as a lifestyle or life-choice.FairwoodKing wrote: We gay people know that we did not become this way by choice. As I stated in a previous post, when I was 18 I "chose" to be straight. No matter what I did, it didn't work. Then at the age of 30, I chose to come out of the closet and be myself. I was a great deal happier when I made that decision.
The most unfortunately thing about being gay is that our acceptance into general society is not determined by us but by straight people. It was straight people who voted here in the state of Washington to allow us all the rights of marriage. But it was also straight people who voted against allowing gay people to adopt in Arkansas.
The Bible is our biggest enemy. The Bible is clearly wrong regarding homosexual issues, but Christians accept it. It was because of the Bible that gays and lesbians were burned at the stake during the Middle Ages and why many were arrested in the US as recently as the 20th century.
It is my job as a gay man to convince as many people as possible that we are perfectly normal people and that there is no logical reason why we shouldn't get married and adopt children. But it is a tough hill to climb. I know that I never made a choice to become gay, but there is no way I can absolutely prove it to anyone. Since I am the only gay man who has posted on this thread, I hope you will accept my word since I am the only one who has gone through this. I also welcome any questions.
Fairwood is gay for one, so I highly doubt he thinks it is wrong. Two, it's not wrong to be gay...if you quit living by the bible then you would realize that it's just as natural as you coming out of the womb wanting to fuck girls. Three, how are you going to tell god anything he is dead. He was just some dude that died years ago, the fact you bash people for what they want personally makes you and every other christian lunatics. If you had a gay son, would you banish him??Series62 wrote:The Bible teaches Christians to love their fellow man, but we are not to love sin. I do not love the sin that I am wont to commit. I strive not to commit sin, though at times I do, I don't however practice it as a lifestyle or life-choice.FairwoodKing wrote: We gay people know that we did not become this way by choice. As I stated in a previous post, when I was 18 I "chose" to be straight. No matter what I did, it didn't work. Then at the age of 30, I chose to come out of the closet and be myself. I was a great deal happier when I made that decision.
The most unfortunately thing about being gay is that our acceptance into general society is not determined by us but by straight people. It was straight people who voted here in the state of Washington to allow us all the rights of marriage. But it was also straight people who voted against allowing gay people to adopt in Arkansas.
The Bible is our biggest enemy. The Bible is clearly wrong regarding homosexual issues, but Christians accept it. It was because of the Bible that gays and lesbians were burned at the stake during the Middle Ages and why many were arrested in the US as recently as the 20th century.
It is my job as a gay man to convince as many people as possible that we are perfectly normal people and that there is no logical reason why we shouldn't get married and adopt children. But it is a tough hill to climb. I know that I never made a choice to become gay, but there is no way I can absolutely prove it to anyone. Since I am the only gay man who has posted on this thread, I hope you will accept my word since I am the only one who has gone through this. I also welcome any questions.
I know that you know homosexuality is wrong despite your attempts at justification.
However, you will have your opportunity to tell God that He is wrong! I'm praying for you!
It depends on the subject of their opinion.DeyDurkie5 wrote: So if someone doesn't believe in the lord, it makes their opinion wrong?
So what do you make of other religions? Are they wrong?Series62 wrote:It depends on the subject of their opinion.DeyDurkie5 wrote: So if someone doesn't believe in the lord, it makes their opinion wrong?
In my opinion, Michael Jordan was the greatest basketball player ever. Your opinion might choose Lebron James. No matter!
If in your opinion, you choose not to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior because you don't believe that He is God.......yes, your opinion is wrong!
Series62 wrote:It depends on the subject of their opinion.DeyDurkie5 wrote: So if someone doesn't believe in the lord, it makes their opinion wrong?
In my opinion, Michael Jordan was the greatest basketball player ever. Your opinion might choose Lebron James. No matter!
If in your opinion, you choose not to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior because you don't believe that He is God.......yes, your opinion is wrong!
Religious people are so funny. How can an opinion be wrong? Do you have definitive proof of God's existence? What makes you an expert?
i dont believe jesus is god...i believe he is the son of godSeries62 wrote:It depends on the subject of their opinion.DeyDurkie5 wrote: So if someone doesn't believe in the lord, it makes their opinion wrong?
In my opinion, Michael Jordan was the greatest basketball player ever. Your opinion might choose Lebron James. No matter!
If in your opinion, you choose not to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior because you don't believe that He is God.......yes, your opinion is wrong!
You did not just write that. No one with half a brain could write that. It's people like you that give Christians a bad name and drove me from the church...seriously.Series62 wrote: I know that you know homosexuality is wrong despite your attempts at justification.
However, you will have your opportunity to tell God that He is wrong! I'm praying for you!
You're an idiot. I know homosexuality is NOT wrong despite what you say. It's people like you who finally drove me from the church.Series62 wrote:The Bible teaches Christians to love their fellow man, but we are not to love sin. I do not love the sin that I am wont to commit. I strive not to commit sin, though at times I do, I don't however practice it as a lifestyle or life-choice.FairwoodKing wrote: We gay people know that we did not become this way by choice. As I stated in a previous post, when I was 18 I "chose" to be straight. No matter what I did, it didn't work. Then at the age of 30, I chose to come out of the closet and be myself. I was a great deal happier when I made that decision.
The most unfortunately thing about being gay is that our acceptance into general society is not determined by us but by straight people. It was straight people who voted here in the state of Washington to allow us all the rights of marriage. But it was also straight people who voted against allowing gay people to adopt in Arkansas.
The Bible is our biggest enemy. The Bible is clearly wrong regarding homosexual issues, but Christians accept it. It was because of the Bible that gays and lesbians were burned at the stake during the Middle Ages and why many were arrested in the US as recently as the 20th century.
It is my job as a gay man to convince as many people as possible that we are perfectly normal people and that there is no logical reason why we shouldn't get married and adopt children. But it is a tough hill to climb. I know that I never made a choice to become gay, but there is no way I can absolutely prove it to anyone. Since I am the only gay man who has posted on this thread, I hope you will accept my word since I am the only one who has gone through this. I also welcome any questions.
I know that you know homosexuality is wrong despite your attempts at justification.
However, you will have your opportunity to tell God that He is wrong! I'm praying for you!
Ditto.Upper90 wrote: I love the Religion. I do not always love the Religious.
Did god write the book? Or is it just a collection of moral stories that were passed down for ages until finally put down on paper. When was the first bible written? Or by Whom? Who decides its actually the word of God that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John wrote down?? What if its not the word of God and just some ramblings that got written down. Im too smart to just blindly believe what i read that is basically 25 guys opinion.Series62 wrote:That 2,000 year old book, The Holy Bible, is God's word, and to denounce His word is to denounce Him. You put the words in your own mouth. The Buddhists/Hinduists used God's words to define Karma.Big_Mirg_ZHS wrote:Series62 wrote:You don't think it's a sin!?Big_Mirg_ZHS wrote:Well for something to be a sin someone judged it bad. I dont agree with it being bad.jmog wrote:How is saying its a sin judging? Learn the definition of sin and judge.Big_Mirg_ZHS wrote:
So being gay is a sin eh? I love how christians are not supposed to judge yet thats what they spend most of their time doing.
Reiterating what the Bible says about homosexuality is not judging.
Now, if he said "all those homos are going to hell and are dispicable" then you'd have a point.
"Sin is often used to mean an action that is prohibited or considered wrong;"
Judge: to form an opinion of; He has an opinion that its a sin. He says its a sin so he obviously thinks its wrong. There is my logic. Im catholic but i still dont think its a sin. And i still think ill go to heaven not because my brother is in to dudes and I don't sit there telling him how awful of a human being he is.
Do catholics read the Bible at all or do they just let the priest to read and interpret it to them?Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Jesus believed in Karma, I never said i dont live by Gods word, I just said i dont live my life based on a 2,000 year old book. I never once denouced God in Any way. Nice way to put words into my mouth. Nice try though.Series62 wrote:He made the statement that his life is not influenced by God's Word, which is to say his life is not influenced by God. Thereby, he does not accept Jesus as Lord and Savior. It's not a self-righteous judgment at all, it is a statement of truth based upon his own words.cbus4life wrote:I know.majorspark wrote:If you read that whole passage in its context, it is speaking of making self-righteous/hypocritcal judments of others.cbus4life wrote: I thought you were supposed to let God do that judging? Judge not lest you be judged?
And he seems to be making self-righteous judgments of others, the way i'm reading it.
Jesus will do the judging and He does not judge by your Karma.
And by the way, Jesus, is God!
You really are an idiot. Love the religious nuts who think they KNOW whatever else thinks. You guys are the biggest problem in society.Series62 wrote:
I know that you know homosexuality is wrong despite your attempts at justification.
However, you will have your opportunity to tell God that He is wrong! I'm praying for you!
Um...there are some topics that God is quite clear how God thinks/feels according to what he said in the Bible.Writerbuckeye wrote: Gotta love religious folks who absolutely, positively, without question KNOW how God thinks and feels.
Amazing.