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ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Nov 16, 2009 12:49 AM
Should you be expected to make sure everyone has a full lineup in and edit their rosters if they don't?

In our league, some guys are pissed that a guy played NY's defense on a bye and I didn't get in and edit his roster for him and the guy he was playing essentially got a win by him losing Def points.
I don't agree that it's my job to make sure everyone has a full lineup in and furthermore, this guy only had NY's defense and I'd have to drop someone on his team to pick up a new defense for him.
I told them to quit their whining and if they wanted to make sure the guy had a full lineup in, they should have called him and told him his DEF was on a bye.
Nov 16, 2009 12:49am
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wags6817

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218 posts
Nov 16, 2009 12:50 AM
That should fall on the guy who had the team. If this continues the commish should just find someone new the following year.
Nov 16, 2009 12:50am
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hoops23

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15,696 posts
Nov 16, 2009 12:51 AM
I try to keep an eye on that with the rule that if it happens more than 1 time during a season, you're suspended for the next season from my league.

I want to keep my league as fair as possible and not give anybody an easy win, especially when playoff spots are up for grabs.

Also, if the same user does indeed do it more than once, and they somehow make it to the playoffs, they forfeit their playoff game.

I run a tight ship.
Nov 16, 2009 12:51am
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Wildcat24

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261 posts
Nov 16, 2009 12:51 AM
That's bull crap. I have no sympathy for someone who makes a mistake like that. If you don't pay attention, you deserve to get beat.
Nov 16, 2009 12:51am
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ZWICK 4 PREZ

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7,733 posts
Nov 16, 2009 12:53 AM
The guys already outta the league for sure next year. He's been flaky at best this year (doesn't acknowledge trade offers, still hasn't paid league fee.. etc...) but it's the first week he didn't make roster moves.
Nov 16, 2009 12:53am
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ZWICK 4 PREZ

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7,733 posts
Nov 16, 2009 12:56 AM
Basically what I told everyone is I'll start and sit someone to give them a full lineup, but I'm not adding and dropping players for someone. If he has a backup, I'll put them in.. but I'm not adding and dropping players for other teams.
Nov 16, 2009 12:56am
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hoops23

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15,696 posts
Nov 16, 2009 12:59 AM
Yeah, I won't add/drop players either. If they have a back up, I'll replace it.
Nov 16, 2009 12:59am
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Chesapeake

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1,603 posts
Nov 16, 2009 1:35 AM
Not your problem and I didn't even realize this was an option.

I'm a first year owner and 4-6 on ESPN Fantasy Football.

I keep seeing all kinds of half assed owners that don't even care what their lineup looks like each week.

They'll have bye week players and players on injured reserve in their starting lineup.

Ya wanna just e-mail them and ask why they bothered signing up.
Nov 16, 2009 1:35am
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ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Nov 16, 2009 1:39 AM
On yahoo you can.
Nov 16, 2009 1:39am
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hoops23

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15,696 posts
Nov 16, 2009 1:45 AM
You can as the league commissioner on ESPN as well.

I've ran my league for about 7 years now.
Nov 16, 2009 1:45am
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GoChiefs

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16,754 posts
Nov 16, 2009 6:16 AM
I wouldn't change the lineup at all. It's on them..that's why they pay there money...they screw up..that's there problem..not anyone elses.
Nov 16, 2009 6:16am
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iclfan2

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6,360 posts
Nov 16, 2009 9:55 AM
I don't think you should be responsible at all. Even if they have bench players waiting to get in and a starter on a bye, I would leave it that way. It is their responsibility to check it once a week to make sure their lineup is how they want it. If they can't find the time to check in for a minute a week then they deserve to lose.
Nov 16, 2009 9:55am
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gerb131

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9,932 posts
Nov 16, 2009 10:02 AM
I can't stand it when people don't make changes to their lineups week in and week out. Hopefully I can find a bit more of a competitive league next year.
Nov 16, 2009 10:02am
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j_crazy

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8,372 posts
Nov 16, 2009 10:32 AM
the 1 time i was commisioner i did, but I was in contact with the guys to make sure that they were okay with it. i ended up losing to one of them, so it bit me in the end.
Nov 16, 2009 10:32am
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O-Trap

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14,994 posts
Nov 16, 2009 10:55 AM
Not your fault. Guy doesn't want to lose? Then he should make sure his team is in.

It IS nice of a commish to do that for someone, especially if they contact him and are unable to access their team. However, that is still going above and beyond the call of duty for a commissioner.
Nov 16, 2009 10:55am
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ss7

Senior Member

256 posts
Nov 16, 2009 10:56 AM
I don't make moves for anyone. The whole point of fantasy football is to own a team and make the decisions and the moves for yourself. I have my own team to worry about. However, this isn't a problem in my league because everyone understands that and we've run it that way for years.
Nov 16, 2009 10:56am
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Sonofanump

Nov 16, 2009 12:13 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: still hasn't paid league fee..
Here is your biggest problem, when you have to pay out the winners and only have 11 fees instead of 12 and everyone gets less than they should.
Nov 16, 2009 12:13pm
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jpake1

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2,389 posts
Nov 16, 2009 12:17 PM
I actually don't think it's cool for the comish to make a change. That isn't fair to the other people in the league that actually pay attention. If it's for money, which it sounds like it is, I'd be pissed if the dude I'm playing has 2 players on a bye week and at the last second the comish puts two backups in there and I lose because of their combined points.
Nov 16, 2009 12:17pm
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fanonlincoln

Junior Member

8 posts
Nov 16, 2009 9:07 PM
Had that happen this week. I called the person and told them both there defenses were on a byeweek. after that it's on them. If they would not been able to change ( at work for example) I would make the change for them, doing what they wanted not on my own.
Nov 16, 2009 9:07pm
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Nate

Formerly Known As Keebler

3,949 posts
Nov 17, 2009 2:30 PM
I would have booted him after Week 3 if he hadn't paid fees.
Nov 17, 2009 2:30pm
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jjhacker

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75 posts
Nov 17, 2009 2:53 PM
I have a story about this.

I was in a league in 2005 where my opponent had everyone playing on Sunday, and I had everyone but my D playing on Sunday. Well, at the end of the SNF game, I was up by just over a point. My defense (the Pats) was not particularly adept, and they were playing the Colts. Well, I checked the waiver wire. Nothing better, really. So, I decided to remove my defense from its starting role, and just leave it empty. That way, I ensure that I win. I had the most points in the league, so points weren't an issue, but because of a few bad weeks, I was in 4th in the league that only took 4 to the playoffs.

Well, our commish saw that my D was empty on Monday, so he put my D in to play. I had class from 6-9 PM on Monday nights, so I didn't see him do it, and by the time I got back to my room, the game had started, and I couldn't change anything.

I got one measly pick, but Peyton and the Colts hung a whopping 40 on the Pats. I got -2 points from my D. Lost the game. Dropped to 5th.

I made it into the playoffs (this was only like Week 9 or 10), but I was FURIOUS that the commish had messed with it.

I'd say that unless the player contacts you and asks you to put his team in, it is your OBLIGATION to let the team managers manage their own teams. You did the right thing.
Nov 17, 2009 2:53pm
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jmog

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6,567 posts
Nov 17, 2009 3:56 PM
Our league that is a bootable offense (not having a full lineup). We even list "subs" over email so that if a guy you put in doesn't play on gameday, the commish will put in whoever you had listed as a "sub" into that position.

Of course, ours is an extremely competitive/pay league with hardly any turnover from year to year, at least 9 people of the 10 remain each year, we only lose 1 every couple years.

Our league is so competitive that the best record after 10 weeks is 7-3, and the worst is 3-7. No "gimmies".
Nov 17, 2009 3:56pm
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jmog

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6,567 posts
Nov 17, 2009 3:59 PM
jjhacker wrote: I have a story about this.

I was in a league in 2005 where my opponent had everyone playing on Sunday, and I had everyone but my D playing on Sunday. Well, at the end of the SNF game, I was up by just over a point. My defense (the Pats) was not particularly adept, and they were playing the Colts. Well, I checked the waiver wire. Nothing better, really. So, I decided to remove my defense from its starting role, and just leave it empty. That way, I ensure that I win. I had the most points in the league, so points weren't an issue, but because of a few bad weeks, I was in 4th in the league that only took 4 to the playoffs.

Well, our commish saw that my D was empty on Monday, so he put my D in to play. I had class from 6-9 PM on Monday nights, so I didn't see him do it, and by the time I got back to my room, the game had started, and I couldn't change anything.

I got one measly pick, but Peyton and the Colts hung a whopping 40 on the Pats. I got -2 points from my D. Lost the game. Dropped to 5th.

I made it into the playoffs (this was only like Week 9 or 10), but I was FURIOUS that the commish had messed with it.

I'd say that unless the player contacts you and asks you to put his team in, it is your OBLIGATION to let the team managers manage their own teams. You did the right thing.
Our league wouldn't stand for what you did either. If you are winning and remove your defense to "ensure" the win, its just as bad as not submitting a full lineup in the first place.

We look at it like hey, if your defense was bad enough to score negative, you should have picked a better defense.

A full lineup is a MUST in our league, no matter if your defense is average at best and its playing New Orleans..
Nov 17, 2009 3:59pm
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jjhacker

Member

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Nov 17, 2009 4:10 PM
jmog wrote:
jjhacker wrote: I have a story about this.

I was in a league in 2005 where my opponent had everyone playing on Sunday, and I had everyone but my D playing on Sunday. Well, at the end of the SNF game, I was up by just over a point. My defense (the Pats) was not particularly adept, and they were playing the Colts. Well, I checked the waiver wire. Nothing better, really. So, I decided to remove my defense from its starting role, and just leave it empty. That way, I ensure that I win. I had the most points in the league, so points weren't an issue, but because of a few bad weeks, I was in 4th in the league that only took 4 to the playoffs.

Well, our commish saw that my D was empty on Monday, so he put my D in to play. I had class from 6-9 PM on Monday nights, so I didn't see him do it, and by the time I got back to my room, the game had started, and I couldn't change anything.

I got one measly pick, but Peyton and the Colts hung a whopping 40 on the Pats. I got -2 points from my D. Lost the game. Dropped to 5th.

I made it into the playoffs (this was only like Week 9 or 10), but I was FURIOUS that the commish had messed with it.

I'd say that unless the player contacts you and asks you to put his team in, it is your OBLIGATION to let the team managers manage their own teams. You did the right thing.
Our league wouldn't stand for what you did either. If you are winning and remove your defense to "ensure" the win, its just as bad as not submitting a full lineup in the first place.

We look at it like hey, if your defense was bad enough to score negative, you should have picked a better defense.

A full lineup is a MUST in our league, no matter if your defense is average at best and its playing New Orleans..
Well, then I'm glad I play in a league with normal rules. ;)

Our league is similar to the one you mentioned. I'm currently in first, at 7-3. Last place guy is 1-9, but next to last place guy is 4-6.

Our league puts strategy above everything. If I decide not to play someone, or even if I forget to start someone, it's my own fault. If it wins me the game or costs me the game, that's on me.
Nov 17, 2009 4:10pm
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jmog

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Nov 17, 2009 4:20 PM
jjhacker wrote:
jmog wrote:
jjhacker wrote: I have a story about this.

I was in a league in 2005 where my opponent had everyone playing on Sunday, and I had everyone but my D playing on Sunday. Well, at the end of the SNF game, I was up by just over a point. My defense (the Pats) was not particularly adept, and they were playing the Colts. Well, I checked the waiver wire. Nothing better, really. So, I decided to remove my defense from its starting role, and just leave it empty. That way, I ensure that I win. I had the most points in the league, so points weren't an issue, but because of a few bad weeks, I was in 4th in the league that only took 4 to the playoffs.

Well, our commish saw that my D was empty on Monday, so he put my D in to play. I had class from 6-9 PM on Monday nights, so I didn't see him do it, and by the time I got back to my room, the game had started, and I couldn't change anything.

I got one measly pick, but Peyton and the Colts hung a whopping 40 on the Pats. I got -2 points from my D. Lost the game. Dropped to 5th.

I made it into the playoffs (this was only like Week 9 or 10), but I was FURIOUS that the commish had messed with it.

I'd say that unless the player contacts you and asks you to put his team in, it is your OBLIGATION to let the team managers manage their own teams. You did the right thing.
Our league wouldn't stand for what you did either. If you are winning and remove your defense to "ensure" the win, its just as bad as not submitting a full lineup in the first place.

We look at it like hey, if your defense was bad enough to score negative, you should have picked a better defense.

A full lineup is a MUST in our league, no matter if your defense is average at best and its playing New Orleans..
Well, then I'm glad I play in a league with normal rules. ;)

Our league is similar to the one you mentioned. I'm currently in first, at 7-3. Last place guy is 1-9, but next to last place guy is 4-6.

Our league puts strategy above everything. If I decide not to play someone, or even if I forget to start someone, it's my own fault. If it wins me the game or costs me the game, that's on me.
The strategy should be in who is on your team and who you start, not if you leave a position blank for a week.

Our league also plays with strategy, in that our lineups are nearly completely open, you have to start 1 QB, 1 K, and 1 D, but the other 5 spots can be any mix of RB/WR/TE you want (nearly), as long as its a "real" NFL set (i.e. you can have 0-3 TEs, but can't have 5 TEs, can have 0-3 RBs, but can't have 5 RBs, but you can have anywhere between 0-5 WRs).

So, nearly any combo of RB/WR/TE you feel will work for you that week is possible.
Nov 17, 2009 4:20pm