royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jan 31, 2010 2:21pm
This is an awesome display of shooting against one of the better defensive teams in the Big 10.
Gotta agree. up 20, go to the bench.
Gotta agree. up 20, go to the bench.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 31, 2010 2:24pm
Many teams will have OSU number....just as many teams will have other teams number. OSU is a good team, maybe top 15 at best. They are far from perfect. There strength is their shooting...if they happen to be off...anyone can beat them. If they are on, they could beat anyone.bulldog8 wrote: Now's the time, let the horses rest the legs a bit and get some quality minutes from the backups to help prep for a run in the tournament. Many teams will have OSU's number in the tourney when they realize that foul trouble can easily beat this team -dribble penetration and attacking the basket could be a killer.
Their front line is small..if they go against a big physical team, they are in trouble. The dribble penetrition goes for anyone...anyone gives that up, they are in trouble, not just OSU. Foul trouble hasn't been an issue for OSU for the past two years.
And, I don't buy into the being tired stuff. I highly doubt Matta pushes them on practice at this point in time. They have at least two days between games. Thats plenty of time to rest.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jan 31, 2010 2:27pm
Up 27...bench needs to put in some minutes geesh.
stroups
Posts: 3,223
Jan 31, 2010 2:29pm
Turner needs a blow..... he looks exhausted
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jan 31, 2010 2:29pm
Nope, run it up.
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I drain 3's
Posts: 574
Jan 31, 2010 2:30pm
For one, John Wall is a serious contender along with Turner for POY. Outside of rebound difference, his stats aren't far behind Turner's at all. Slightly less points per game, more assists per game, lower FG%, better 3PT%, all the while playing as a true freshman, with two potential NBA lottery picks.
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bulldog8
Posts: 497
Jan 31, 2010 2:30pm
I can't imagine that a team that gets attacked at the rim, but is deep on the bench would suffer as much as OSU would. One guy gets in foul trouble on this OSU team and they are done. Im sorry, but a team that relies on 5 guys each game, isn't going to have a chance. The fact of the matter is, if the Buckeyes rotate more guys and have fresher legs, they have the ability to do more things offensively and defensively (therefore they wouldn't have to rely on their shooting as much).centralbucksfan wrote:Many teams will have OSU number....just as many teams will have other teams number. OSU is a good team, maybe top 15 at best. They are far from perfect. There strength is their shooting...if they happen to be off...anyone can beat them. If they are on, they could beat anyone.bulldog8 wrote: Now's the time, let the horses rest the legs a bit and get some quality minutes from the backups to help prep for a run in the tournament. Many teams will have OSU's number in the tourney when they realize that foul trouble can easily beat this team -dribble penetration and attacking the basket could be a killer.
Their front line is small..if they go against a big physical team, they are in trouble. The dribble penetrition goes for anyone...anyone gives that up, they are in trouble, not just OSU. Foul trouble hasn't been an issue for OSU for the past two years.
And, I don't buy into the being tired stuff. I highly doubt Matta pushes them on practice at this point in time. They have at least two days between games. Thats plenty of time to rest.
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HeathAlum21
Posts: 363
Jan 31, 2010 2:32pm
Turner does look exhausted. That open three, which he would normally nail, looked bad. There was no lift in his legs and he appeared to be trying to muscle it up with the upper body. Give him a break coach!
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 31, 2010 2:32pm
Rotating guys is great...when you have guys to do that. OSU doesn't. They have to rely on two junior college transfers. That right there, says quite a bit.bulldog8 wrote:I can't imagine that a team that gets attacked at the rim, but is deep on the bench would suffer as much as OSU would. One guy gets in foul trouble on this OSU team and they are done. Im sorry, but a team that relies on 5 guys each game, isn't going to have a chance. The fact of the matter is, if the Buckeyes rotate more guys and have fresher legs, they have the ability to do more things offensively and defensively (therefore they wouldn't have to rely on their shooting as much).centralbucksfan wrote:Many teams will have OSU number....just as many teams will have other teams number. OSU is a good team, maybe top 15 at best. They are far from perfect. There strength is their shooting...if they happen to be off...anyone can beat them. If they are on, they could beat anyone.bulldog8 wrote: Now's the time, let the horses rest the legs a bit and get some quality minutes from the backups to help prep for a run in the tournament. Many teams will have OSU's number in the tourney when they realize that foul trouble can easily beat this team -dribble penetration and attacking the basket could be a killer.
Their front line is small..if they go against a big physical team, they are in trouble. The dribble penetrition goes for anyone...anyone gives that up, they are in trouble, not just OSU. Foul trouble hasn't been an issue for OSU for the past two years.
And, I don't buy into the being tired stuff. I highly doubt Matta pushes them on practice at this point in time. They have at least two days between games. Thats plenty of time to rest.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jan 31, 2010 2:33pm
Turner normally nails 3 pointers?
32% isn't normally nailing anything from the perimeter. He just isn't a great outside shooter yet.
32% isn't normally nailing anything from the perimeter. He just isn't a great outside shooter yet.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 31, 2010 2:34pm
Normally nail? LOL Turner is NOT a good 3pt shooter. Have you watched him over the past two years? It is his weakness.HeathAlum21 wrote: Turner does look exhausted. That open three, which he would normally nail, looked bad. There was no lift in his legs and he appeared to be trying to muscle it up with the upper body. Give him a break coach!
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jan 31, 2010 2:35pm
Hey Thad, you are up 25, how about using your bench? I just don't get it.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 31, 2010 2:35pm
Seems like Buford is taking this opportunity to get his stroke back. I haven't seen the past couple games, but his stroke looks really nice today.
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HeathAlum21
Posts: 363
Jan 31, 2010 2:36pm
There was no one within 7 feet of him. If you saw the shot, it clearly screamed "I am tired". It was an ugly shot. I love Evan Turner but he was just winded at the time before the time out. Up nearly 30, I think he could get a breather every now and then.devil1197 wrote: Turner normally nails 3 pointers?
32% isn't normally nailing anything from the perimeter. He just isn't a great outside shooter yet.
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bulldog8
Posts: 497
Jan 31, 2010 2:37pm
centralbucksfan.....When you're up 26, how much will it hurt to let Hill or Simmons bring the ball up the court instead of killing Turner? These two are fully capable of providing quality minutes and will be much needed down the stretch in the tournament. There's a difference between a team having your number because of talent and a team having your number because your coach can't efficiently find personnel groupings that give your guys a rest.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 31, 2010 2:37pm
Wow, Buford with a quiet 26!
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 31, 2010 2:37pm
There is no need for Turner, Buford, and Diebs to be out there right now.
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HeathAlum21
Posts: 363
Jan 31, 2010 2:38pm
I think they were "running it up" after the game in Minnesota.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 31, 2010 2:38pm
Buford has been shooting very well as of late. And was obviously really on today.wildcats20 wrote: Seems like Buford is taking this opportunity to get his stroke back. I haven't seen the past couple games, but his stroke looks really nice today.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 31, 2010 2:39pm
There was no need for the Georgetown starters to be on the floor up 20 vs Duke yesterday...but they were. Let the coaches coach. They obviously know more then all of us put together.wildcats20 wrote: There is no need for Turner, Buford, and Diebs to be out there right now.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 31, 2010 2:40pm
Yeah you just said a quiet 26. I would have said maybe 18 or so.centralbucksfan wrote:Buford has been shooting very well as of late. And was obviously really on today.wildcats20 wrote: Seems like Buford is taking this opportunity to get his stroke back. I haven't seen the past couple games, but his stroke looks really nice today.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jan 31, 2010 2:40pm
Minnesota should always have the score run up on them when we play them.
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bulldog8
Posts: 497
Jan 31, 2010 2:45pm
Georgetown had 7 guys with 10+ minutes yesterday in a game that was decided by 12 points over a team ranked #7 in the nation. OSU has 5 guys with 10+ minutes in a game they lead by 25+ over a team that is unranked and playing very average this season. There's something wrong when you can't get at least two more bodies in the game for quality minutes.centralbucksfan wrote:There was no need for the Georgetown starters to be on the floor up 20 vs Duke yesterday...but they were. Let the coaches coach. They obviously know more then all of us put together.wildcats20 wrote: There is no need for Turner, Buford, and Diebs to be out there right now.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 31, 2010 2:47pm
You can't quit whinning anytime. We get what you think. And I personally think I'll stick with Matta as my coach over you.bulldog8 wrote:Georgetown had 7 guys with 10+ minutes yesterday in a game that was decided by 12 points over a team ranked #7 in the nation. OSU has 5 guys in 10+ minutes in a game they lead by 25+ over a team that is unranked and playing very average. There's something wrong when you can't get at least two more bodies in the game for quality minutes.centralbucksfan wrote:There was no need for the Georgetown starters to be on the floor up 20 vs Duke yesterday...but they were. Let the coaches coach. They obviously know more then all of us put together.wildcats20 wrote: There is no need for Turner, Buford, and Diebs to be out there right now.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jan 31, 2010 2:49pm
Don't really get the Georgetown comment when they use their bench and are playing a top 10 team.
Not even close to the same scenario.
Not even close to the same scenario.