Tenn Asst Coach Ed Orgeron

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Jan 13, 2010 10:46 AM
This guy is following Kiffin to USC. He has called 9 UT recruits that were all enrolling early at Tenn. He encouraged them to not attend their classes today. Today was the beginning of a new semester. He told them do not attend any classes bc if you do, you wont be able to transfer to USC with us without sitting a year out. By not attending they could follow to USC and play right away. This is total BS!! They say kids are students first? HaHa
Jan 13, 2010 10:46am
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Jan 13, 2010 10:48 AM
College Athletics are getting worse and worse by the day.
Jan 13, 2010 10:48am
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Jan 13, 2010 10:54 AM
september63 wrote: This guy is following Kiffin to USC. He has called 9 UT recruits that were all enrolling early at Tenn. He encouraged them to not attend their classes today. Today was the beginning of a new semester. He told them do not attend any classes bc if you do, you wont be able to transfer to USC with us without sitting a year out. By not attending they could follow to USC and play right away. This is total BS!! They say kids are students first? HaHa
And you know this how? Wouldn't surprise me...but I wonder how something like this got out? UT boards are going to spread rumors like crazy to get at Kiffin.
Jan 13, 2010 10:54am
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Jan 13, 2010 11:10 AM
LOL Orgeron is my old roommate in Florida's Uncle...
Jan 13, 2010 11:10am
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Jan 13, 2010 11:47 AM
I heard this on the radio this morning...not 100% reliable...but better than a internet board.
Jan 13, 2010 11:47am
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Jan 13, 2010 11:48 AM
It was on ESPN too
Jan 13, 2010 11:48am
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Jan 13, 2010 11:51 AM
It is on ESPN...........link wont transfer...........Google him..............you will find story.
Jan 13, 2010 11:51am
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Jan 13, 2010 11:52 AM
One of the best things about pro ball is that you don't have the student-athlete hypocrisy you have in college, and unfortunately even in high schools.
Jan 13, 2010 11:52am
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Jan 13, 2010 12:04 PM
I don't blame him. It's not a secret that recruits pick coaches moreso than campuses and schools these days, so even if they play on staying at Tennessee, it would be smart for them to not start classes so they can rethink their committment.
Jan 13, 2010 12:04pm
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Jan 13, 2010 12:35 PM
its not like they have to start early...if the coach that recruited them isn't going to be there, might be wise step back (even without orgeron telling them to do so) and re-think their committment before being locked into that school
Jan 13, 2010 12:35pm
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Jan 13, 2010 12:49 PM
I wouldn't blame him either. You've worked hard to get those kids, then the plan changes and you still want them to go with you to USC. pretty smart move on his part
Jan 13, 2010 12:49pm
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Jan 13, 2010 12:58 PM
I wouldn't blame him either.
I don't blame the athlete at all, but they should do it without coercion.
Jan 13, 2010 12:58pm
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Jan 13, 2010 1:02 PM
september63 wrote: This is total BS!!

no, its not.
Jan 13, 2010 1:02pm
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Jan 13, 2010 1:07 PM
rocket31 wrote:
september63 wrote: This is total BS!!

no, its not.
It is BS. I am just pointing out the hypocritical nature in college athletics. They try saying they are student-athletes, then a coach calls kids and tells them not to attend classes.

Also, as recently as 1 week ago Orgeron is sitting in a living room promising parents if their kid comes to UT he will get a quality education?
Jan 13, 2010 1:07pm
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Jan 13, 2010 1:22 PM
In a perfect world, players would be attending schools primarily based on the school. In the real world, we know better. When a head coach leaves, the players should be free to transfer without penalty.
Jan 13, 2010 1:22pm
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Jan 13, 2010 1:33 PM
queencitybuckeye wrote: In a perfect world, players would be attending schools primarily based on the school. In the real world, we know better. When a head coach leaves, the players should be free to transfer without penalty.
From the NCAA's perspective allowing that would open up pandora's box, and that is something they will not willfully bring about. They will hold on to the idea, that big intercollegiate athletics are %100 amateur until the entire system comes crashing down on their head. I agree that allowing kids to transfer if the coach that recruited them takes another job would be the right thing to do, but the NCAA wouldn't stand for it.
Jan 13, 2010 1:33pm
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Jan 13, 2010 1:44 PM
september63 wrote:
rocket31 wrote:
september63 wrote: This is total BS!!

no, its not.
It is BS. I am just pointing out the hypocritical nature in college athletics. They try saying they are student-athletes, then a coach calls kids and tells them not to attend classes.

Also, as recently as 1 week ago Orgeron is sitting in a living room promising parents if their kid comes to UT he will get a quality education?
Okay, and if they didn't graduate high school EARLY to play for KIFFIN and ORGERON, then they'd still be in high school. As it stands, they're not attending college classes, WHICH THEY WOULDN'T BE ANYWAYS had they not graduated early, so they can follow those who RECRUITED them.

Pretty sure that's not BS.
Jan 13, 2010 1:44pm
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Jan 13, 2010 3:29 PM
If they walk into the classroom, the clock starts 5 years to play 4. Today is the day for the EE's. If they stay out, they can change. If they go to class, they would burn a redshirt (mandatory) to transfer. Also, a couple of EE's went through drills for UT's bowl game. They may be stuck.

check out what Volquest reports on Ed O.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPAJTGOSK00
Jan 13, 2010 3:29pm
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Jan 13, 2010 4:28 PM
Leaked footage from Vols practice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umlFRUE6zoY
Jan 13, 2010 4:28pm
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Jan 13, 2010 4:56 PM
Look for Ogeron to go after LSU recruits, especially Marsh who was recruited by USC and is from California. Ogeron sure does bounce around from school to school.
Jan 13, 2010 4:56pm
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Jan 13, 2010 5:00 PM
If they went through bowl practice drills(how in the hell can you do that unless you're really on pace to graduate high school early and your school is on quarters), then those kids would be screwed.
Jan 13, 2010 5:00pm
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Jan 13, 2010 5:47 PM
For all of you that said it was an OK thing to do. I suggested it was BS what they were doing telling recruits to not go to classes and come to USC. ESPN College guy Pat Forde just called it bushleague, lower than low. Flat out a sleazy move!! It has always been an unwritten rule not to do this.
Jan 13, 2010 5:47pm
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Jan 13, 2010 5:53 PM
Forde has no clue what he's talking about. There are no such things as unwritten rules in my book. Until the kid has signed and NLI, everything is fair game
Jan 13, 2010 5:53pm
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Jan 13, 2010 5:53 PM
Since when has anyone aligned with USC cared about rules, whether the be written or unwritten. Especially the new head coach.

Anyone who is surprised by this needs to come join the real world.
Jan 13, 2010 5:53pm
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Jan 13, 2010 6:24 PM
Add Tom Luginbill, ESPN recruiting expert, to the list blasting Kiffins move calling recruits to skip classes and come to USC. Luginbill called it "going way over the line."
Jan 13, 2010 6:24pm