Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Nov 16, 2017 4:27pm
Right now, 15 might be an over-estimation just because of how many of those guys who've been considered good are nearing the ends of their careers and are suffering through declines. Roethlisberger is having probably his worst year ever statistically, while ones like Rivers, Manning and Palmer all are pretty mediocre this year. Add in the inconsistent performances by younger guys like Newton, Mariota and Winston; Flacco reverting to pure trash, Dalton never turning the corner to becoming good and depending on your definition of "quality" as it pertains to QBs, it might be hard to get much above double digits. And that's with giving Watson and Goff the benefit of the doubt despite only having about half a year of starting for both of them.Verbal Kint;1881866 wrote:2 quality NFL QBs are under 6'2", which come combine day, will Mayfield reach that height?
For percentage, how many quality QBs we using? 15? 20?
If the Browns draft him and he overcomes the size difference, great.
He does appear to have a nice high arm angle with his release. Hopefully that helps him adapt.
I am not against, I am just cautious.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 16, 2017 5:03pm
[LEFT]Also the only team in the NFL to not win a game. [/LEFT]Crimson streak;1881965 wrote:https://twitter.com/DMurph_BrownsPR/status/931181134037372929?s=17
This literally blows my mind.
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Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 17, 2017 11:36am
Really really pathetic:
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 17, 2017 11:59am
https://nflspinzone.com/2017/11/16/cleveland-browns-nfl-draft-2018-7-round-mock-draft-vol-2/14/
Wouldn't like taking a RB at 8, not one bit.
Wouldn't like taking a RB at 8, not one bit.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 17, 2017 12:45pm
Not that I’m big on RBs that early in the draft, but I think RBs are making a comeback in the NFL. Especially if you don’t have an elite QB.Commander of Awesome;1882065 wrote:https://nflspinzone.com/2017/11/16/cleveland-browns-nfl-draft-2018-7-round-mock-draft-vol-2/14/
Wouldn't like taking a RB at 8, not one bit.
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kizer permanente
Posts: 667
Nov 17, 2017 12:47pm
Duke and Crow are a fine tandem. We don't need a rb that early.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 17, 2017 1:10pm
They aren't going to pony up for Crowell in FA when they can get a younger guy in the draft. If he's Tomlinson or Peterson, in their primes, you might pay, but not for an average RB like Crow.kizer permanente;1882071 wrote:Duke and Crow are a fine tandem. We don't need a rb that early.
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kizer permanente
Posts: 667
Nov 17, 2017 1:26pm
crow can test the waters, but I think he'll be disappointed.BR1986FB;1882073 wrote:They aren't going to pony up for Crowell in FA when they can get a younger guy in the draft. If he's Tomlinson or Peterson, in their primes, you might pay, but not for an average RB like Crow.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 17, 2017 1:32pm
No doubt. I wouldn't necessarily use a high(er) pick on a RB, unless it was someone like Zeke (minus the baggage). It's been proven time & time again that if you have a solid O-Line/blocking scheme, you can do pretty well with later round backs.kizer permanente;1882080 wrote:crow can test the waters, but I think he'll be disappointed.
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kizer permanente
Posts: 667
Nov 18, 2017 10:15pm
Mayfield looks like a huge douchebag lol
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 19, 2017 9:02am
He really is the biggest fucking dickbag in the world.kizer permanente;1882249 wrote:Mayfield looks like a huge douchebag lol
That being said if (big if) he’s a franchise QB, cool with me.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Nov 19, 2017 10:22am
I thought the Mayfield stuff was funny. Saw a few scouts saying at this point they like Rosen and Darnold (probably not coming out) over Mayfield, but that was before Rosen last night too. I’ll take either.
New Lacanfora article on Haslam really being serious on getting Peyton in there.
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ppaw1999
Posts: 344
Nov 19, 2017 11:57am
The way UCLA receivers drop passes Rosen would be right at home with the Browns.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Nov 19, 2017 11:56pm
I'd take Rosen easily because that's one of my QB rules. If some guy tears it up with a non blue blood or on a mediocre team in college he's probably going to be a hell of a player in the NFL. Look at the top QBs, only really Newton, Stafford, Brady, Mariota played for great programs.
Of course Drew Brees became incredible, guy won a Big 10 and Rose Bowl with Purdue. Lol fucking Purdue
Of course Drew Brees became incredible, guy won a Big 10 and Rose Bowl with Purdue. Lol fucking Purdue
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 20, 2017 7:53am
I like the idea of Rosen. He definitely has the physical tools, and he is cocky enough to actually believe he would turn around a shitty franchise. I don’t give a shit if people get their feelz hurt, because he is an asshole. There are also a decent amount of Jews in Cleveland, so he will fit right in.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 20, 2017 7:56am
Btw, I know we like to talk about all of the QBs we have missed out on (and all of our fucking picks in general), but we are also terrible at hiring coaches. I remember during the chud/Petrine hiring shit show I suggested we hire Zimmer. Haslam and co were butt hurt, because Zimmer pretty much told them why the Browns have been god awful. Zimmer keeps going thru QBs and he finds a way to be be competitive. Another terrible decision by the Browns, that nobody seems to talk about.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 20, 2017 11:46am
Yep agreed. If I recall correctly you were on the Zimmer TBW pairing that year, would have been nice. Pretty sad when I think 70% of posters on a minor league ohio forum would be 1,000,000X better than anyone we've had.like_that;1882488 wrote:Btw, I know we like to talk about all of the QBs we have missed out on (and all of our fucking picks in general), but we are also terrible at hiring coaches. I remember during the chud/Petrine hiring shit show I suggested we hire Zimmer. Haslam and co were butt hurt, because Zimmer pretty much told them why the Browns have been god awful. Zimmer keeps going thru QBs and he finds a way to be be competitive. Another terrible decision by the Browns, that nobody seems to talk about.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 20, 2017 12:00pm
Bet we would've hit on more draft picks over the last 10 years.Commander of Awesome;1882535 wrote:Pretty sad when I think 70% of posters on a minor league ohio forum would be 1,000,000X better than anyone we've had.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Nov 20, 2017 8:06pm
Duke Johnson had 6 touches Sunday. Seems like a good idea to not use your beat play maker on offense. Njoku had 1
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Verbal Kint
Posts: 236
Nov 20, 2017 9:31pm
Lowering expectationsiclfan2;1882581 wrote:Duke Johnson had 6 touches Sunday. Seems like a good idea to not use your beat play maker on offense. Njoku had 1
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 21, 2017 10:27am
It's Grossi, FWIW, but if those are the two free agents QB's they are interested in, I will projectile vomit....
http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland/post/_/id/4286/note-to-the-haslams-here-is-how-to-fix-your-broken-organization
http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland/post/_/id/4286/note-to-the-haslams-here-is-how-to-fix-your-broken-organization
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 21, 2017 10:48am
They are going to pick a QB with the first pick, I will take that bet with anyone. I know COA loves himself some Mayfield, but I hope it isn't him. I am not sold on him being a NFL QB. The Manziel comparisons will probably scare the Haslams too.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 21, 2017 12:08pm
He sounds angry. Relax, grossi, the browns aren’t trading for tyrod freakin taylor and probably won’t draft Mayfield.BR1986FB;1882640 wrote:It's Grossi, FWIW, but if those are the two free agents QB's they are interested in, I will projectile vomit....
http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland/post/_/id/4286/note-to-the-haslams-here-is-how-to-fix-your-broken-organization
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 21, 2017 12:21pm
Taylor's projected to be a FA. Bills will likely let him walk. If want no part of this current FO, with their metrics, SPARQ scores, etc having any part of selecting a QB.SportsAndLady;1882646 wrote:He sounds angry. Relax, grossi, the browns aren’t trading for tyrod freakin taylor and probably won’t draft Mayfield.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 21, 2017 12:43pm
Trade, free agent who cares. They’re not going after tyrod taylor. They’ll draft a QB at 1 overall.BR1986FB;1882647 wrote:Taylor's projected to be a FA. Bills will likely let him walk. If want no part of this current FO, with their metrics, SPARQ scores, etc having any part of selecting a QB.