ALDS- New York Yankees vs Cleveland Indians series thread

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Oct 7, 2017 10:46am
HitsRus;1875760 wrote:Wow... I missed all the posting....yesterday I literally spent “a day at the ball park”. We got there early when gates opened at 3 and left after 11pm.

I didn’t see a lot of talk about what might have been the turning point in the game ... Chisenhall’s HBP.
When you’re at the game, you do miss the replays and the analysis .
Today, The national media is ripping Joe Gerardi for multiple mistakes and mismanagement.... One of which was the non-challenge of the hit by pitch of Chisenhall which resulted in the bases-loaded and bringing Lindor to the plate .
The other major faux pas, was lifting C.C. Sabathia in an apparent “pre-scripted” move. Thirdly, not bringing in Chapman to face Bruce in the 8th. In any case Girardi is getting roasted by the NY media.
As he should. Watch his explanation for not challenging the HBP. I would be livid as a yankees fan. He let his guard down. Figured with two outs and up 5, what was the worst that could happen? Well, he found out.

Also, trouble in paradise?

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Oct 7, 2017 10:47am
Although that HBP is a very close call. I am not 100% sure the replay would have gotten it overturned.
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Oct 7, 2017 10:52am
Right, even in super slow mo hard to say it didn't nick him at all. Did you see Chiz after the game? They kept asking him if he got hit and he said he wasn't the ump and to stop asking him


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Oct 7, 2017 11:11am
Besides that, how about that ugly mug on Gerardi?
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Oct 7, 2017 11:16am
like_that;1875761 wrote:As he should. Watch his explanation for not challenging the HBP. I would be livid as a yankees fan. He let his guard down. Figured with two outs and up 5, what was the worst that could happen? Well, he found out.

Also, trouble in paradise?

Wasn't it some moronic, "I could have, but didn't want to mess with my pitcher's flow." sort of reasoning? Which gets really funny considering that pitcher immediately gave up a grand slam.
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Oct 7, 2017 11:37am
I have 1 question. And not that I wanted to see him in the game or anything like that. But why is Salazar in the roster over Otero if he can't get in the game last night? Tomlin was great, didn't hate the move at all, just wondering what has to happen for Salazar to get in? Seems like a wasted roster spot if you go to the game 4 starter before him...and I assume Otero gets in earlier than that.

Anyway, not a rant and I didn't disagree with any moves. Just an observation...
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Oct 7, 2017 12:57pm
Laley23;1875767 wrote:I have 1 question. And not that I wanted to see him in the game or anything like that. But why is Salazar in the roster over Otero if he can't get in the game last night? Tomlin was great, didn't hate the move at all, just wondering what has to happen for Salazar to get in? Seems like a wasted roster spot if you go to the game 4 starter before him...and I assume Otero gets in earlier than that.

Anyway, not a rant and I didn't disagree with any moves. Just an observation...
Unless the plan is to pitch Salazar game 4 instead of tomlin? I definitely agree with you though if that's not the case


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Oct 7, 2017 3:49pm
IM excited to see Indians and Astros in ALCS
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Oct 7, 2017 5:11pm
slingshot4ever;1875781 wrote:IM excited to see Indians and Astros in ALCS
GTFO
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Oct 7, 2017 10:06pm
Go Tribe.
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Oct 7, 2017 10:35pm
slingshot4ever;1875781 wrote:IM excited to see Indians and Astros in ALCS
Dangerous. And stupid.
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Oct 7, 2017 11:01pm
I want the best teams playing the best ball. Tribe and Astros are clearly the best two. Tribe has pitching advantage. I would selfishly root for a game 7 that went punch for punch with Frankie or JRam throwing the knockout punch in bottom of 9.

I apologize for wanting something that would cause heart attacks on here though. I enjoy these two teams more than any of the other 6 remaining.

NL is a total crapshoot
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Oct 7, 2017 11:42pm
Yeah...expected to see Salazar myself.
In Tito we trust.

Thinking about it in hindsight, it's quite possible that Tito trusted a consistent performance for JT more than Danny.
Tomlin is a polished pitcher, maybe not with as good stuff, but with the mental toughness necessary to compete. Salazar has shown a tendency to 'lose it' when things get tough. I think that in the pressure of the situation, Tito wanted that toughness. I know as a coach myself, I've gone with "mental toughness" over "stuff" in big game situations.
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Oct 8, 2017 12:04am
My feeling if game 4 exist it will be the following:

Tomlin for 9 batters
Salazar for 9 batters
Bauer for 9 batters
Miller/Allen if leading,
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Oct 8, 2017 12:08am
HitsRus;1875830 wrote:Yeah...expected to see Salazar myself.
In Tito we trust.

Thinking about it in hindsight, it's quite possible that Tito trusted a consistent performance for JT more than Danny.
Tomlin is a polished pitcher, maybe not with as good stuff, but with the mental toughness necessary to compete. Salazar has shown a tendency to 'lose it' when things get tough. I think that in the pressure of the situation, Tito wanted that toughness. I know as a coach myself, I've gone with "mental toughness" over "stuff" in big game situations.
I appreciate the Tito apologist, but for fucks sake Salazar has ACE stuff. He should be a starter.
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Oct 8, 2017 12:19am
^^^^say what you want COA... fact is.... Josh Tomlin pitched two scoreless innings...17 pitches, 6 outs.


Salazar is not there yet. When he is, he will be amazing.
It's the playoffs. when the pressures on, I want the mentally tough guy.
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Oct 8, 2017 12:31am
Indians will not replace EE on the roster...he's day to day!
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Oct 8, 2017 7:49am
SportsAndLady;1875820 wrote:Dangerous. And stupid.
He is a White Sox fan.
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Oct 8, 2017 8:06am
slingshot4ever;1875781 wrote:IM excited to see Indians and Astros in ALCS
SportsAndLady;1875820 wrote:Dangerous. And stupid.
Laley23;1875838 wrote:He is a White Sox fan.
'nuff said
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Oct 8, 2017 7:49pm
We’re going to need J-Ram if we’re going anywhere this post season, and so far he’s been non existent...hope he gets going soon!
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Oct 8, 2017 7:56pm
vball10set;1875943 wrote:We’re going to need J-Ram if we’re going anywhere this post season, and so far he’s been non existent...hope he gets going soon!
He's a top 5 "clutch" player...he'll deliver as this gets bigger

At same time defense is incredibly shifted on Bruce and he tries to pull two straight pitches 3 inches off outside corner
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Oct 8, 2017 8:17pm
Both pitchers look sharp tonight. Gonna be a battle for runs.

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Oct 8, 2017 8:30pm
I know it's classic but the way Judge wears the Yankee pinstripes...they look like pajamas on him.

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Oct 8, 2017 8:36pm
Kip with a triple. Gotta get him in Jose

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Oct 8, 2017 8:39pm
Ugh


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