Hurricane Harvey

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salto
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Aug 26, 2017 10:36am
Anyone paying attention to the storm, in Texas? Currently a category 4 storm that'll be lumbering for nearly a week. Feet of rain to come.....
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friendfromlowry
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Aug 26, 2017 10:59am
The path of it is pretty crazy (and unfortunate). Looked like it was going to come inland late last night, drift around in a circle back out to sea, then basically come back inland hammering the same spot again before moving north.
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salto
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Aug 26, 2017 11:11am
Even inland as far as Austin is with out power.
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ironman02
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Aug 27, 2017 3:03pm
The rainfall totals from this storm are getting ridiculous. 25+ inches already, with as many as 50 inches expected in some areas. Feel terrible for those people.
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Aug 27, 2017 3:04pm
Pics on twitter are crazy. And def more crazy that they will get another entire storm of rainfall still.


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salto
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Aug 27, 2017 3:10pm
Houston is fucked.

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Aug 27, 2017 9:45pm
Watched all day Friday and today
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BR1986FB
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Aug 27, 2017 9:50pm
Thought the story on Yahoo was pretty cool about the wild hawk that flew into the cabbie's passenger window and just hung out with the cabbie because he was scared. Wild animals will do some interesting things when they are scared and backed into a corner.
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MontyBrunswick
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Aug 28, 2017 9:12am
praying for the victims!!!!!!!!!!
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Aug 28, 2017 10:08am
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gut
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Aug 29, 2017 3:44pm
Why do people try to ride these out when they know things are going to be really bad? Even if you're quite poor, you can't get a few hundred miles away and camp for several days?

Hospitals and nursing homes I understand the issues there. But other people put their families at risk, and rescue workers at risk. Just dumb.
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Aug 29, 2017 4:01pm
Houston wasn't told to ecabuate, because it was a category 1 which was supposed to break up and be weak. The different cells started to combine, and it became a category 3 within a day. They didn't have time to evacuate. A few hours later before it hit land, it was a category 4. That's 1 to 4 in less than 36 hours. Unprecedented
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Aug 29, 2017 4:02pm
gut;1869298 wrote:Why do people try to ride these out when they know things are going to be really bad? Even if you're quite poor, you can't get a few hundred miles away and camp for several days?

Hospitals and nursing homes I understand the issues there. But other people put their families at risk, and rescue workers at risk. Just dumb.
Probably just don't think it'll be that bad. I remember when I lived in NJ 5'ish years ago they had that huge hurricane that was supposed to annihilate NYC and the NJ coast. Lot of people fled. I just stayed. And it wasn't that bad. If it was really bad, I would have been screwed.
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Aug 29, 2017 4:21pm
Trying to evacuate 2+ million people isn't the easiest either. How many people would have been on those highways stuck while they flooded? I think that's why they didn't order a mandatory one.
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salto
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Aug 29, 2017 5:03pm
gut;1869298 wrote:Why do people try to ride these out when they know things are going to be really bad?..... Just dumb.
Look at who was elected President. A lot of dumb in America.
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QuakerOats
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Aug 29, 2017 5:07pm
iclfan2;1869317 wrote:Trying to evacuate 2+ million people isn't the easiest either. How many people would have been on those highways stuck while they flooded? I think that's why they didn't order a mandatory one.

Exactly. It would take two weeks or more to evacuate Houston. An overwhelming disaster would have occurred with thousands drowning on gridlocked highways.
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gut
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Aug 29, 2017 7:10pm
QuakerOats;1869324 wrote:Exactly. It would take two weeks or more to evacuate Houston. An overwhelming disaster would have occurred with thousands drowning on gridlocked highways.
That's a reasonable take. Except didn't like 99% of the people leave, anyway? Don't give the order a few hours before landfall, and don't be the dumbass that waits until the last possible minute to evacuate.

The heaviest freeways in Houston do 400k cars a day. There are 4 major arteries north out of Houston - if people have their shit together you could evacuate that city in 2 days, 3 tops (that was my guess - officially it appears they say 60 hours).

I'm not saying they should have evacuated, but people knew this storm was coming and it was predicted to be pretty bad. Riding it out is a risky choice, a risk that can be avoided with a little planning and being smart.
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Aug 29, 2017 7:15pm
Again, why evacuate for a thunderstorm?

It was category 1 and escalated to category 4 in under 36 hours...
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gut
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Aug 29, 2017 7:25pm
Laley23;1869351 wrote:Again, why evacuate for a thunderstorm?

It was category 1 and escalated to category 4 in under 36 hours...
I wasn't aware of the timeline. I guess they only had a little less than a day between it being upgraded to Cat 2 and making landfall. So no practical or reasonable way they could have evacuated.

But hurricanes tend to change pretty dramatically before making landfall, sometimes largely dissipating and sometimes gather steam into a monster. If I was in the path of a potential hurricane, I'd get out of dodge.
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Aug 29, 2017 9:15pm
iclfan2;1869317 wrote:Trying to evacuate 2+ million people isn't the easiest either.
How many people would have been on those highways stuck while they flooded? I think that's why they didn't order a mandatory one.
The mayor of Houston elaborated his decision in concern of how to evacuate a population of this size. If you consider the metropolitan area your looking at 6 million plus, which would have created panic and undoubtedly more deaths with people on the roads with the limited time of determining the storms intentions.
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Aug 29, 2017 9:19pm
Laley23;1869351 wrote:Again, why evacuate for a thunderstorm?
A cat 1 is far from a thunderstorm, been through a few. Charley was the worst I've seen personally.
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Aug 29, 2017 9:37pm
Bio-Hazzzzard;1869380 wrote:A cat 1 is far from a thunderstorm, been through a few. Charley was the worst I've seen personally.
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Aug 29, 2017 9:57pm
Laley23;1869382 wrote:Hyberbole
I understand where you were headed with this.

I have seen more devastation from a tropical storm than some hurricanes, not typical. Hard to determine the impact of these storms with sustained winds, and tornadoes are common. Best case scenario use your better judgment for yourself, if you feel the need to get the fuck out don't wait for government authorities to let you know what's best for you and your family.
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plusultra
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Aug 29, 2017 10:25pm
I'll just pray for their safety. The latest news I've heard is about philanthropic deeds by celebrities donating funds for the victim.
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ironman02
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Aug 29, 2017 10:42pm
One location outside of Houston is reporting 51.88" of rainfall as of this evening. That's completely absurd.

So many other locations with more than 40" of rain. I just can't even imagine the devastation. This might end up being the biggest disaster of its kind in US history.