mcburg93
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Jul 1, 2017 10:59am
Is Cleveland St Ignatius at the top of the list? I know recently Marion Local has been running up the State Title in the playoff era list. The teams of this era are far better than any other era. Stronger, faster, and bigger players has changed the game completely. This era far out weighs any other era cause prior to playoffs no one knew what the best team in the state actually was. It was always based off some news reporters OPINIONS. This should never determine a championship in any sport.
If you don't mind me asking how many state titles does your school have in the playoff period? It is pretty much the only way to judge if a team is worth anything if it won a state championship in a playoff.
If you don't mind me asking how many state titles does your school have in the playoff period? It is pretty much the only way to judge if a team is worth anything if it won a state championship in a playoff.
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isadore
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Jul 1, 2017 11:28am
| Most State Championships | ||
| [LEFT]1[/LEFT] | [LEFT]11[/LEFT] | Cleveland St. Ignatius (2011, 08, 01, 99, 95, 94, 93, 92, 91, 89, 88) |
| 2 | 9 | Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller (2013, 1985, 82, 80, 79, 77, 76, 75) |
| [LEFT]3[/LEFT] | [LEFT]8[/LEFT] | Newark Catholic (2007, 91, 87, 86, 85, 84, 82, 78) |
| 8 | Youngstown Cardinal Mooney (2011, 09, 06, 04, 87, 82, 80, 73) | |
| 8 | Maria Stein Marion Local (2014, 13, 12, 11, 07, 06, 01, 00) | |
| 6 | 7 | Cleveland Benedictine (2014, 04, 03, 96, 81, 80, 73) |
| 7 | 6 | Delphos St. John's (2010, 08, 05, 99, 98, 97) |
| 6 | St. Henry (2006, 04, 95, 94, 92, 90) | |
| 6 | Versailles (2003, 98, 95, 94, 93, 90) | |
| 10 | 5 | Akron St. Vincent-St. Mary (2012, 1988, 82, 81, 72) |
| 5 | Coldwater (2014, 13, 12, 07, 05) | |
| 12 | 4 | Youngstown Ursuline (2010, 09, 08, 00) |
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Jul 1, 2017 11:56am
Gosh a ruddies
Ohio State Football Champions
11 titles - 1 school
Cleveland Saint Ignatius - 2011, 2008, 2001, 1999, 1995, 1994, 1993, 1992, 1991, 1989, 1988
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9 titles - 2 schools
Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller - 2013, 2012, 1985, 1982, 1980, 1979, 1977, 1976, 1975
Maria Stein Marion Local - 2016, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2007, 2006, 2001, 2000
Then 103 other schools who won championships, none of which are Massillon
https://cantonmckinley.com/just-the-facts/jtf-football/181-the-ohsaa-football-championship-club-list-102-schools
Ohio State Football Champions
11 titles - 1 school
Cleveland Saint Ignatius - 2011, 2008, 2001, 1999, 1995, 1994, 1993, 1992, 1991, 1989, 1988
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9 titles - 2 schools
Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller - 2013, 2012, 1985, 1982, 1980, 1979, 1977, 1976, 1975
Maria Stein Marion Local - 2016, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2007, 2006, 2001, 2000
Then 103 other schools who won championships, none of which are Massillon
https://cantonmckinley.com/just-the-facts/jtf-football/181-the-ohsaa-football-championship-club-list-102-schools
mcburg93
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Jul 2, 2017 11:07am
Marion Local has been a team to recon with for the last twenty years. I think their rain of the lower two divisions will be over now that Coldwater has dropped to their division and region. Will be interesting to watch.
mcburg93
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Jul 3, 2017 7:39pm
Not much chatter on this thread. Thought for sure Massillon fans would be able to talk about championships.
mcburg93
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Jul 17, 2017 11:29am
bump Trying to find out if Massillon fans will comment on this.
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Al Bundy
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Jul 17, 2017 11:39am
We would crush Marion Local or any MAC school.mcburg93;1862667 wrote:bump Trying to find out if Massillon fans will comment on this.
mcburg93
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Jul 17, 2017 12:38pm
Awesome!! Does Massillon have a state title in the playoff era?Al Bundy;1862668 wrote:We would crush Marion Local or any MAC school.
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Al Bundy
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Jul 17, 2017 1:35pm
Yes, we won the state title in 1972.mcburg93;1862669 wrote:Awesome!! Does Massillon have a state title in the playoff era?
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Jul 17, 2017 2:11pm
gosh a ruddiesAl Bundy;1862671 wrote:Yes, we won the state title in 1972.
the three winners in 1972 were Warren Western Reserve, Akron St. Vincent-St. Marys, Mount Pleasant. No Massillon
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Al Bundy
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Jul 17, 2017 2:19pm
You listed the tournament winners. We won the AP state title that year.isadore;1862672 wrote:gosh a ruddies
the three winners in 1972 were Warren Western Reserve, Akron St. Vincent-St. Marys, Mount Pleasant. No Massillon
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Jul 17, 2017 2:28pm
gosh a ruddies, I listed real championship won on the field.
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Al Bundy
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Jul 17, 2017 5:29pm
We won our on the fieldisadore;1862677 wrote:gosh a ruddies, I listed real championship won on the field.
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Jul 17, 2017 6:38pm
lol, no gosh a ruddies, it was won by lobbying 60 AP voters not on the playing field.Al Bundy;1862695 wrote:We won our on the field
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Al Bundy
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Jul 17, 2017 7:01pm
We won by going undefeated against the best schedule in the country.isadore;1862697 wrote:lol, no gosh a ruddies, it was won by lobbying 60 AP voters not on the playing field.
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Jul 17, 2017 8:39pm
gosh a ruddies, LOL, they did not go undefeated in 1972, they lost in the first round of the playoffs to Cincinnati Princeton.Al Bundy;1862700 wrote:We won by going undefeated against the best schedule in the country.
vdubb96
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Jul 18, 2017 3:10pm
It will never take place but I don't think "crush" would happen.Al Bundy;1862668 wrote:We would crush Marion Local or any MAC school.
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Al Bundy
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Jul 18, 2017 6:22pm
I'm not sure how you define crush, but we would have a continuous clock fairly early in the game.vdubb96;1862758 wrote:It will never take place but I don't think "crush" would happen.
vdubb96
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Jul 19, 2017 8:38am
I would take that betAl Bundy;1862781 wrote:I'm not sure how you define crush, but we would have a continuous clock fairly early in the game.
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Al Bundy
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Jul 19, 2017 9:53am
The MAC is just little kids playing football. They often start linemen who aren't even 200 pounds. Our recruit from Cincinnati was almost 400 pounds. The MAC is good at what they do, but we play a whole different level of football.vdubb96;1862819 wrote:I would take that bet
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isadore
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Jul 19, 2017 12:41pm
gosh a ruddies, really. They have some pretty good athletes. Take St. Henry for example. Only been playing football since about 1970 and they have 6 football championships. Couple guys who visit this site too much, like to brag about Massillon having 3 guys on the Buckeye Top 100. gosh St Henry has 2, Jim Lachey and Bobby Hoying and the school is only 1/4th size in enrollment and has been playing interscholastic football 75 fewer years and even without recruiting. St. Henry is a public school. The district borders on Coldwater, Marion and Ft Recovery, all state champions.
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Al Bundy
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Jul 19, 2017 1:28pm
That district is very Catholic, and Catholics are better in football. Many think that they should be separate.isadore;1862869 wrote:gosh a ruddies, really. They have some pretty good athletes. Take St. Henry for example. Only been playing football since about 1970 and they have 6 football championships. Couple guys who visit this site too much, like to brag about Massillon having 3 guys on the Buckeye Top 100. gosh St Henry has 2, Jim Lachey and Bobby Hoying and the school is only 1/4th size in enrollment and has been playing interscholastic football 75 fewer years and even without recruiting. St. Henry is a public school. The district borders on Coldwater, Marion and Ft Recovery, all state champions.
vdubb96
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Jul 19, 2017 4:25pm
MAC kids bale hay, milk cows and work on turkey farms all year round. End of discussion!Al Bundy;1862835 wrote:The MAC is just little kids playing football. They often start linemen who aren't even 200 pounds. Our recruit from Cincinnati was almost 400 pounds. The MAC is good at what they do, but we play a whole different level of football.
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Al Bundy
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Jul 19, 2017 5:22pm
So they win a farming contest and get crushed by the premiere program in the country in football.vdubb96;1862887 wrote:MAC kids bale hay, milk cows and work on turkey farms all year round. End of discussion!
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Jul 19, 2017 5:40pm
lol, Massillon, no real championships. St Ignatius is premiere program, 11 Division I championships, Division 2 Massillon does not even qualify as an also ranAl Bundy;1862891 wrote:So they win a farming contest and get crushed by the premiere program in the country in football.