Archive Most Titles per school during the Playoff era

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Al Bundy

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Jul 19, 2017 8:24pm

isadore;1862892 wrote:lol, Massillon, no real championships. St Ignatius is premiere program, 11 Division I championships, Division 2 Massillon does not even qualify as an also ran

Massillon 9 national championships

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isadore

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Jul 19, 2017 10:20pm

Al Bundy;1862913 wrote:Massillon 9 national championships

Massillon 0, none, nada real championships.

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Jul 19, 2017 10:46pm

isadore;1862919 wrote:Massillon 0, none, nada real championships.

In the world of high school football, there is nothing bigger than a national title

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isadore

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Jul 20, 2017 6:45am

Al Bundy;1862926 wrote:In the world of high school football, there is nothing bigger than a national title

won by lobbying, not on the field. Massillon has no championships won on the field.

vdubb96

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Jul 20, 2017 9:31am

What conference has the most football titles?? I know schools move around so it may not be exact. The MAC has 31

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Al Bundy

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Jul 20, 2017 12:22pm

vdubb96;1862934 wrote:What conference has the most football titles?? I know schools move around so it may not be exact. The MAC has 31

Massillon has more national titles than everyone in that conference combined.

vdubb96

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Jul 20, 2017 12:39pm

A. You didn't go to Massillon
B. Those are mythical, nice try!!

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Al Bundy

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Jul 20, 2017 12:55pm

vdubb96;1862964 wrote:A. You didn't go to Massillon
B. Those are mythical, nice try!!

Are you trying to say that the Ohio D7 champion is better than the national champion?

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isadore

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Jul 20, 2017 1:07pm

Al Bundy;1862969 wrote:Are you trying to say that the Ohio D7 champion is better than the national champion?

D7 championships are real, Massillon's are not. Massillon stopped winning championships when they became real, won on the playing field.

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Jul 20, 2017 1:13pm

isadore;1862971 wrote:D7 championships are real, Massillon's are not. Massillon stopped winning championships when they became real, won on the playing field.

The tournament has changed many times in terms of number of divisions and number of teams that qualify. In the 70s, many 10-0 teams did not qualify. Does that lessen the titles won in those years because they may not have had to play a great team?

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Jul 20, 2017 1:38pm

Al Bundy;1862973 wrote:The tournament has changed many times in terms of number of divisions and number of teams that qualify. In the 70s, many 10-0 teams did not qualify. Does that lessen the titles won in those years because they may not have had to play a great team?

gosh a ruddies, boy none of that describes Massillon, no 10-0 teams that did not make the playoffs. Massillon teams just consistently choked when they did.

4cards

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Jul 20, 2017 1:45pm

...Al the OHSAA specifically created a whole new division for football so that Massillon could finally win a title and they still can't grab that magic ring!

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Al Bundy

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Jul 20, 2017 1:47pm

isadore;1862975 wrote:gosh a ruddies, boy none of that describes Massillon, no 10-0 teams that did not make the playoffs. Massillon teams just consistently choked when they did.

We played the best schedule in the country. If we went undefeated, there was no doubt that we earned our title. So many teams manipulate the current system. Some schools even play Canadian teams for easy points (when we played a Canadian team, we picked the best that they had). I just think the current system is more flawed.

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Jul 20, 2017 2:08pm

Al Bundy;1862977 wrote:We played the best schedule in the country. If we went undefeated, there was no doubt that we earned our title. So many teams manipulate the current system. Some schools even play Canadian teams for easy points (when we played a Canadian team, we picked the best that they had). I just think the current system is more flawed.

gosh a ruddies, LOL you thinks it flawed because the teams that play Massillon in the playoff are allowed to score more points than the paper tigers. Even when Massillon plays the supposed best schedule in the country and go 10-0, they choke in the playoffs.

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Jul 20, 2017 2:33pm

isadore;1862984 wrote:gosh a ruddies, LOL you thinks it flawed because the teams that play Massillon in the playoff are allowed to score more points than the paper tigers. Even when Massillon plays the supposed best schedule in the country and go 10-0, they choke in the playoffs.

In the tournament era, there has been winners with 4 and 5 losses. Can honestly say that a team that loses half of their is truly the champion for the season. When we won , we put everything on the line every week.

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Jul 20, 2017 5:04pm

Al Bundy;1862987 wrote:In the tournament era, there has been winners with 4 and 5 losses. Can honestly say that a team that loses half of their is truly the champion for the season. When we won , we put everything on the line every week.

gosh a ruddies, we found out about the true nature of Massillon over the last 45 years when the tournament applied true pressure, 0 championships. The MLB, NFL, NBA, NCAA, OHSAA championships do not go to the team with the best record, but to the team that can win the games under tournament pressure, the paper tigers can not handle the pressure.

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Jul 20, 2017 5:45pm

isadore;1863003 wrote:gosh a ruddies, we found out about the true nature of Massillon over the last 45 years when the tournament applied true pressure, 0 championships. The MLB, NFL, NBA, NCAA, OHSAA championships do not go to the team with the best record, but to the team that can win the games under tournament pressure, the paper tigers can not handle the pressure.

For years, all of the sports that you mentioned did not have a tournament. However, we still count their titles before the tournament began.

GOONx19

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Jul 20, 2017 6:05pm

Al Bundy;1862987 wrote:Way back when we were subjectively voted to be a good team, we put everything on the line every week.

Sounds like a pretty poor strategy for Massillon. Maybe the players and coaches should attempt to adapt to the sport as it grows and improves. If they started that now they would only be 45 years behind.

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Jul 20, 2017 6:09pm

Al Bundy;1863005 wrote:For years, all of the sports that you mentioned did not have a tournament. However, we still count their titles before the tournament began.

NFL, NBA, MLB in those years, played all the teams in their league. Massillon's continuous failure for 45 years to prove itself on the playing field proved they are paper tigers.

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Jul 20, 2017 6:27pm

isadore;1863010 wrote:NFL, NBA, MLB in those years, played all the teams in their league.

No one is in the same league as us.

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Jul 20, 2017 8:08pm

Al Bundy;1863011 wrote:No one is in the same league as us.

gosh a ruddies, well if they ever form the Consistent Choker League, the paper tigers will be a charter member.

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Jul 20, 2017 9:24pm

isadore;1863020 wrote:gosh a ruddies, well if they ever form the Consistent Choker League, the paper tigers will be a charter member.

We still have more titles than everyone else

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Jul 20, 2017 9:52pm

Al Bundy;1863026 wrote:We still have more titles than everyone else

106 schools in Ohio have more titles than Massillon, they all have at least one.

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Jul 20, 2017 11:03pm

isadore;1863029 wrote:106 schools in Ohio have more titles than Massillon, they all have at least one.

26 state and 9 national are more

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Jul 21, 2017 12:49pm

Al Bundy;1863033 wrote:26 state and 9 national are more

gosh a ruddies,
o won on the field is less.