Most Titles per school during the Playoff era

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Al Bundy

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Jul 21, 2017 1:05 PM
isadore;1863076 wrote:gosh a ruddies,
o won on the field is less.
They were all won on the field.
Jul 21, 2017 1:05pm
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isadore

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Jul 21, 2017 1:47 PM
Al Bundy;1863084 wrote:They were all won on the field.
not won, but obtained by the artificial means of lobbying and press agenting.
Jul 21, 2017 1:47pm
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Al Bundy

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Jul 21, 2017 5:19 PM
isadore;1863102 wrote:not won, but obtained by the artificial means of lobbying and press agenting.
You can't name one of our titles where we didn't earn it.
Jul 21, 2017 5:19pm
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isadore

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Jul 21, 2017 6:17 PM
Al Bundy;1863158 wrote:You can't name one of our titles where we didn't earn it.
all of them, all won by lobbying and politicking, can not win one on the field
Jul 21, 2017 6:17pm
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Al Bundy

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Jul 21, 2017 7:32 PM
isadore;1863172 wrote:all of them, all won by lobbying and politicking, can not win one on the field
We won them by perfection on the field.
Jul 21, 2017 7:32pm
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isadore

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Jul 21, 2017 9:08 PM
Al Bundy;1863182 wrote:We won them by perfection on the field.
gosh a ruddies, once the games really started to count, Massillon paper tigers stopped winning championships.
Jul 21, 2017 9:08pm
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Al Bundy

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Jul 21, 2017 9:17 PM
isadore;1863194 wrote:gosh a ruddies, once the games really started to count, Massillon paper tigers stopped winning championships.
So you cherry pick when the games "really started to count?"
Jul 21, 2017 9:17pm
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isadore

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Jul 21, 2017 10:15 PM
Al Bundy;1863196 wrote:So you cherry pick when the games "really started to count?"
gosh a ruddies, lol, they lose the games when it starts to count to win a real championship.
Jul 21, 2017 10:15pm
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Al Bundy

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Jul 21, 2017 10:18 PM
isadore;1863207 wrote:gosh a ruddies, lol, they lose the games when it starts to count to win a real championship.
Pick one of our championship years, and try to make an argument of why someone else should have won it that year. You can't do it. Each of our championship seasons was pretty clear cut
Jul 21, 2017 10:18pm
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isadore

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Jul 21, 2017 10:58 PM
Al Bundy;1863209 wrote:Pick one of our championship years, and try to make an argument of why someone else should have won it that year. You can't do it. Each of our championship seasons was pretty clear cut
Gosh a ruddies, OK, lets take 1972. Massillon went undefeated in the regular season, won the phony AP State Championship. And lost in the first round of the playoffs to Cincinnati Princeton, who themselves were later eliminated. And Massillon has lost ever since then in the real championships.
Jul 21, 2017 10:58pm
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Al Bundy

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Jul 21, 2017 11:46 PM
isadore;1863221 wrote:Gosh a ruddies, OK, lets take 1972. Massillon went undefeated in the regular season, won the phony AP State Championship. And lost in the first round of the playoffs to Cincinnati Princeton, who themselves were later eliminated. And Massillon has lost ever since then in the real championships.
http://www.massillontigers.com/allsched70.html
We played the best schedule in the nation. We went 10-0 and outscored our opponents 179-29.
Jul 21, 2017 11:46pm
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superman

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Jul 22, 2017 7:46 AM
Al Bundy;1863225 wrote:http://www.massillontigers.com/allsched70.html
We played the best schedule in the nation. We went 10-0 and outscored our opponents 179-29.
10-1 193-46
0-1 in the playoffs
Jul 22, 2017 7:46am
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isadore

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Jul 22, 2017 8:01 AM
Cincinnati Princeton beat Massillon
Warren Reserve beat Cincinnati Princeton
Jul 22, 2017 8:01am
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Al Bundy

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Jul 22, 2017 2:27 PM
isadore;1863234 wrote:Cincinnati Princeton beat Massillon
Warren Reserve beat Cincinnati Princeton
This sounds like the argument that the Browns beat the Chargers, who beat the Raiders, who beat the Bills, who beat the Patriots. Therefore, the Browns were better than the Patriots.
Jul 22, 2017 2:27pm
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isadore

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Jul 22, 2017 5:36 PM
Al Bundy;1863266 wrote:This sounds like the argument that the Browns beat the Chargers, who beat the Raiders, who beat the Bills, who beat the Patriots. Therefore, the Browns were better than the Patriots.
Gosh we start with the obvious fact Massillon lost to Princeton in the first round. In a year Massillon won the phony AP championship but they lost when it counted in a playoff toward a real championship.
Jul 22, 2017 5:36pm
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Al Bundy

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Jul 22, 2017 6:03 PM
isadore;1863279 wrote:Gosh we start with the obvious fact Massillon lost to Princeton in the first round. In a year Massillon won the phony AP championship but they lost when it counted in a playoff toward a real championship.
At that point, the Associated Press mattered more than Harbin. Even today, I bet more people have heard of the Associated Press than have heard of Harbin. I'd be happy to administer a poll at the women's shoe store that I work at.
Jul 22, 2017 6:03pm
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isadore

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Jul 22, 2017 6:52 PM
Al Bundy;1863291 wrote:At that point, the Associated Press mattered more than Harbin. Even today, I bet more people have heard of the Associated Press than have heard of Harbin. I'd be happy to administer a poll at the women's shoe store that I work at.
polling
Jul 22, 2017 6:52pm
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Al Bundy

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Jul 22, 2017 11:07 PM
isadore;1863299 wrote:polling
So far, more people know Associated Press over Harbin.
Jul 22, 2017 11:07pm
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isadore

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Jul 23, 2017 9:12 AM
gosh a ruddies, you need to widen your sample.
Jul 23, 2017 9:12am
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Al Bundy

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Jul 23, 2017 9:27 AM
isadore;1863359 wrote:gosh a ruddies, you need to widen your sample.
As you go outside of Ohio, no one has heard of Harbin, but everyone has heard of the Associated Press. Across the nation no one has heard of Marion Local, but everyone has heard of Massillon. There is so much interest in us that we are the only high school game that you can bet on in Vegas.
Jul 23, 2017 9:27am
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Raider

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Jul 23, 2017 2:38 PM
Al Bundy;1863364 wrote:As you go outside of Ohio, no one has heard of Harbin, but everyone has heard of the Associated Press. Across the nation no one has heard of Marion Local, but everyone has heard of Massillon. There is so much interest in us that we are the only high school game that you can bet on in Vegas.
Massillon is a poor dying town. The talent has left that area a long time ago. The GCL has around 150 state titles since 72. People in Texas think of Ohio football as St X, Moeller, and St Iggy
Jul 23, 2017 2:38pm
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isadore

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Jul 23, 2017 2:40 PM
Al Bundy;1863364 wrote:As you go outside of Ohio, no one has heard of Harbin, but everyone has heard of the Associated Press. Across the nation no one has heard of Marion Local, but everyone has heard of Massillon. There is so much interest in us that we are the only high school game that you can bet on in Vegas.
Gosh a ruddies, 2016 AP picked Cincinnati Colerain as Division I champs but Cincinnati St. Xavier is the real champ. And that is true of all AP picks, not the real champs until they win it on the field.
Jul 23, 2017 2:40pm
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Al Bundy

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Jul 23, 2017 2:46 PM
Raider;1863399 wrote:Massillon is a poor dying town. The talent has left that area a long time ago. The GCL has around 150 state titles since 72. People in Texas think of Ohio football as St X, Moeller, and St Iggy
We brought in the best tackle from the GCL last year. They make movies about us, none of the other teams that you mentioned. None of those other teams have a Vegas line on their games.
Jul 23, 2017 2:46pm
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Raider

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Jul 23, 2017 2:49 PM
Al Bundy;1863401 wrote:We brought in the best tackle from the GCL last year. They make movies about us, none of the other teams that you mentioned. None of those other teams have a Vegas line on their games.
They made a movie because your community is insane. That's why teen mom, buck wild, cops, and Jerry springer are popular. People love to make fun of stupid people
Jul 23, 2017 2:49pm
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Al Bundy

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Jul 23, 2017 2:51 PM
isadore;1863400 wrote:Gosh a ruddies, 2016 AP picked Cincinnati Colerain as Division I champs but Cincinnati St. Xavier is the real champ. And that is true of all AP picks, not the real champs until they win it on the field.
The Harbin points had St. Xavier 5th in their region. Until recent years, they wouldn't have even qualified for the tournament. You picked an excellent example of why the tournament system is flawed.
Jul 23, 2017 2:51pm