iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Apr 12, 2017 8:54pm
Whole team has. 0-9 last night. 0-8/9 tonight
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Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Apr 12, 2017 8:54pm
You spelled "this season" wrong. (I know I know..it's been 8 games.)Crimson streak;1847441 wrote:EE has been hot garbage so far with RISP
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HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Apr 12, 2017 8:57pm
Not only has EE failed to get the runners home, he has looked terrible at the plate.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 12, 2017 9:00pm
Yes, lazy. He has been very, dry good for over a year. That opinion seems to be stemming from when he was young and learning to pitch still, a few years ago.Con_Alma;1847428 wrote:Lazy? O.K.
*His stuff is nasty.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Apr 12, 2017 9:06pm
Lazy. O.K. I thought I accepted that already. It was a lazy take....it's still my "take".
That opinion, my opinion was based on last fall and his first two starts. His stuff is nasty. It's almost so nasty it seems like he struggles to control it. I didn't say he hasn't been good. Hell, he's certainly been effective. I'm just a guy lazily watching and commenting is all.
That opinion, my opinion was based on last fall and his first two starts. His stuff is nasty. It's almost so nasty it seems like he struggles to control it. I didn't say he hasn't been good. Hell, he's certainly been effective. I'm just a guy lazily watching and commenting is all.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Apr 12, 2017 9:08pm
Way to make Robertson look like Mariano...fugly.
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Apr 12, 2017 9:09pm
Right down the middle for strike three.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 12, 2017 9:11pm
My point was that he got hurt the start before last years ASG. He wasn't healthy at all the second half of the season. To judge his control in that timeframe makes no sense.Con_Alma;1847450 wrote:Lazy. O.K. I thought I accepted that already. It was a lazy take....it's still my "take".
That opinion, my opinion was based on last fall and his first two starts. His stuff is nasty. It's almost so nasty it seems like he struggles to control it. I didn't say he hasn't been good. Hell, he's certainly been effective. I'm just a guy lazily watching and commenting is all.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Apr 12, 2017 9:16pm
Holy shit defending World Series contenders looks like shit since the first series. 0 offense
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Apr 12, 2017 9:20pm
Laley23;1847454 wrote:My point was that he got hurt the start before last years ASG. He wasn't healthy at all the second half of the season. To judge his control in that timeframe makes no sense.
I don't know that I was judging as much as I was observing what I was seeing. Not being healthy may lend to my observations being even more accurate. Wouldn't it? It would stand to reason that not being fully while still having such nasty stuff would be difficult to control.
For some reason you seem to be receiving my comments as being negative towards him when it was really focused on the sick movement he has in many of his pitches. Just watching what was going on is all. It is in fact a lazy "take"...nothing more. Can I possibly agree with you any more?
TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Apr 12, 2017 9:23pm
Meh. We are fine. Never been fast starters in April in recent years. Just don't get in a hole.
Anything .500 or better in April and we will be fine.
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Anything .500 or better in April and we will be fine.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Apr 12, 2017 9:48pm
He's really pressing--seems to want to validate that big contract a little too much.HitsRus;1847444 wrote:Not only has EE failed to get the runners home, he has looked terrible at the plate.
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Sonofanump
Apr 12, 2017 11:20pm
Only Lindor has shown up this year.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 13, 2017 6:49am
EE can be frustrating and his character being aloof doesn't help his cause when things aren't going well. He's been a slow starter several times. He also isn't playing in the division of band box stadiums.
When he warms up he is an RBI machine that can carry an offense..but he will irritate Indians fans at times this season.
He might just need the guy from Totonto in CF signaling pitches.
When he warms up he is an RBI machine that can carry an offense..but he will irritate Indians fans at times this season.
He might just need the guy from Totonto in CF signaling pitches.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Apr 13, 2017 7:44am
It certainly looks like it. He needs to be more patient at the plate and hit his pitch.., way too anxious.vball10set;1847462 wrote:He's really pressing--seems to want to validate that big contract a little too much.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Apr 13, 2017 7:46am
+1..... I agree.TBone14;1847457 wrote:Meh. We are fine. Never been fast starters in April in recent years. Just don't get in a hole.
Anything .500 or better in April and we will be fine.
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like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 13, 2017 8:13am
If that is the main issue, I have trust in Tito resolving it.vball10set;1847462 wrote:He's really pressing--seems to want to validate that big contract a little too much.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 13, 2017 8:28am
If we are being fair, and others were hitting, we would be saying:
"Man, look at this offense right now. Just wait till EE gets going!!"
So I am not worried at all. The pitching has been there, which is most important.
"Man, look at this offense right now. Just wait till EE gets going!!"
So I am not worried at all. The pitching has been there, which is most important.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Apr 13, 2017 9:33am
Exactly. Every year since Tito took over we have been slow starters. Just be 500 or around it through may and we will be perfectly fine. I'm not too worried, the offense is too talented to not hit.Laley23;1847502 wrote:If we are being fair, and others were hitting, we would be saying:
"Man, look at this offense right now. Just wait till EE gets going!!"
So I am not worried at all. The pitching has been there, which is most important.
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Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 13, 2017 9:46am
Yep. That stems from his approach. He doesn't want these guys to change anything. Even their routines and study habits or whatever. Sometimes, to a fault, as it can linger longer than needs to and doesn't get fixed. But he has always preached to stay the course long term and not change anything. Its why once he settles on a lineup, he wont shake it up at all (not counting injuries/days off or platoons), if a guy is slated as the 5 hitter, he is the 5 hitter until he sucks into June.Crimson streak;1847521 wrote:Exactly. Every year since Tito took over we have been slow starters. Just be 500 or around it through may and we will be perfectly fine. I'm not too worried, the offense is too talented to not hit.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Apr 13, 2017 3:37pm
like_that;1847496 wrote:If that is the main issue, I have trust in Tito resolving it.
With the way he handled the team, especially the staff, during our run last year, I trust Tito implicitly...the guy's a baseball god as far as I'm concerned.
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cat_lover
Posts: 2,388
Apr 13, 2017 6:11pm
Chisenhall has been activated and is in the lineup tonight, Naquin has been sent down to Columbus.
Go Tribe.
Go Tribe.
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cat_lover
Posts: 2,388
Apr 13, 2017 6:13pm
Tomlin first pitch and its a HR. Sox 1-0.
TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Apr 13, 2017 6:25pm
I called for Tomlin regression in my pre season predictions and he wouldn't make the postseason roster. Last year was a wet dream. Hope I'm wrong but I'm betting against him every start until the market adjusts.
He was -175 tonight...which is a joke.
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He was -175 tonight...which is a joke.
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TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Apr 13, 2017 6:28pm
Fuck postseason roster...will Tomlin be in the rotation by the All Star break?
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