Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Feb 12, 2017 4:31pm
Pebble Beach Pro-Am
Spieth doing what Spieth does and Justin Timberlake is a lucky man. Hole in one and two chip ins.
Spieth doing what Spieth does and Justin Timberlake is a lucky man. Hole in one and two chip ins.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 12, 2017 6:16pm
Did JT actually get a hole in one today? Yesterday, he was super close.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Feb 12, 2017 7:36pm
Sorry, misread itwildcats20;1836800 wrote:Did JT actually get a hole in one today? Yesterday, he was super close.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Feb 12, 2017 8:07pm
Spieth winning out the gate isn't good for everyone else. He has the game to win almost everything
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 12, 2017 8:09pm
The season is 4 months old.Spock;1836807 wrote:Spieth winning out the gate isn't good for everyone else. He has the game to win almost everything
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Feb 12, 2017 8:21pm
I know this isn't the beginning. In regards to PGA and televised tournaments.....its pretty much the beginning of the season for the average fanwildcats20;1836808 wrote:The season is 4 months old.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 12, 2017 10:33pm
Spieth hs had the talent to win everything for years, and can't even hold the top spot in the WGR. We know you hate Tiger, but Jordan is no Tiger, no matter how much you want him to be.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Feb 13, 2017 12:41am
He doesn't have the distance and shot making Tiger did. But he is a more consistent playerLaley23;1836844 wrote:Spieth hs had the talent to win everything for years, and can't even hold the top spot in the WGR. We know you hate Tiger, but Jordan is no Tiger, no matter how much you want him to be.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 13, 2017 4:02am
The most recent I can find...February 2016Classyposter58;1836866 wrote:He doesn't have the distance and shot making Tiger did. But he is a more consistent player
Jordan Spieth has 13 missed cuts in 79 events
Tiger 15 in 313.
Who is more consistent?
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 13, 2017 4:03am
It's not even close.Laley23;1836844 wrote:Spieth hs had the talent to win everything for years, and can't even hold the top spot in the WGR. We know you hate Tiger, but Jordan is no Tiger, no matter how much you want him to be.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 13, 2017 4:11am
From January of last year, after Spieth's 77th start...
Cuts made:
TW 76
JS 65
Top 10s:
TW 49
JS 34
Wins:
TW 17
JS 7
Both had 2 majors, TW one more start.
Cuts made:
TW 76
JS 65
Top 10s:
TW 49
JS 34
Wins:
TW 17
JS 7
Both had 2 majors, TW one more start.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Feb 13, 2017 5:00am
Spieth easily as a player in his round. Spieth is great because he is remarkably consistent on the course and rarely gets into bad spots while having terrific touch on the greens when he's really on. Tiger on the other hand had a tendency to spray more shots, yet his pure power off the tee and incredible shot making skills allowed him to have some ridiculous recoveries and to dominate Par 5s much like Jason Day to a lesser extent today.wildcats20;1836869 wrote:The most recent I can find...February 2016
Jordan Spieth has 13 missed cuts in 79 events
Tiger 15 in 313.
Who is more consistent?
It's why Jordan to me is such a fascinating player, much like Steph Curry in basketball. Both of those players do it by being technically the most gifted players in the game, while you look at guys like DJ, Day and Rory who simply can just overpower courses when they're on
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 13, 2017 7:04am
SmhClassyposter58;1836875 wrote:Spieth easily as a player in his round. Spieth is great because he is remarkably consistent on the course and rarely gets into bad spots while having terrific touch on the greens when he's really on. Tiger on the other hand had a tendency to spray more shots, yet his pure power off the tee and incredible shot making skills allowed him to have some ridiculous recoveries and to dominate Par 5s much like Jason Day to a lesser extent today.
It's why Jordan to me is such a fascinating player, much like Steph Curry in basketball. Both of those players do it by being technically the most gifted players in the game, while you look at guys like DJ, Day and Rory who simply can just overpower courses when they're on
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Feb 13, 2017 7:41am
Spock;1836807 wrote:Spieth winning out the gate isn't good for everyone else. He has the game to win almost everything
lolwildcats20;1836808 wrote:The season is 4 months old.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 13, 2017 8:45am
Furthermore...
This entire article pretty much sums up how large the gap is between Tiger and anyone else.
http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golf-central-blog/stats-incredible-tigers-40-greatest-numerical-records/
This entire article pretty much sums up how large the gap is between Tiger and anyone else.
http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golf-central-blog/stats-incredible-tigers-40-greatest-numerical-records/
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 13, 2017 8:50am
Since Jordan is still in his twenties...
Tiger won 46 times in his 20s. FORTY SIX TIMES.
Jordan has 9 and turns 24 in July.
And don't give me the bs about the competition level. Tiger's prime would still dominate the tour today.
Tiger won 46 times in his 20s. FORTY SIX TIMES.
Jordan has 9 and turns 24 in July.
And don't give me the bs about the competition level. Tiger's prime would still dominate the tour today.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Feb 13, 2017 9:12am
He would not dominate at nearly the level he did. The competition is really that much better than it was at the turn of the century right now.wildcats20;1836887 wrote:Since Jordan is still in his twenties...
Tiger won 46 times in his 20s. FORTY SIX TIMES.
Jordan has 9 and turns 24 in July.
And don't give me the bs about the competition level. Tiger's prime would still dominate the tour today.
I do agree with you, he is clearly better than all of these guys and was exactly what MJ was in the NBA. Not sure what S&L shook his head about, but comparing Spieth and Woods is like apples and oranges as they're so different in styles. Just look at yesterday, he hit 16 GIR and had a bogey free -2 round whereas Tiger would typically go 5 birds, 3 bogies. Spieth is so damn consistent and such a good putter he absolutely has a chance to win 50 PGA events in his career
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 13, 2017 9:19am
There are 7 guys with more than 50 wins. Jordan is great, but will he have a better overall career than Phil, who has 42?
My answer is no.
My answer is no.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Feb 13, 2017 9:22am
I would be shocked if he doesn't. Honestly I'm saying 55 wins and 11 majors. Btw while we're having an all time conversation let's not forget that Jack is still the number one hands downwildcats20;1836891 wrote:There are 7 guys with more than 50 wins. Jordan is great, but will he have a better overall career than Phil, who has 42?
My answer is no.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 13, 2017 9:32am
Tiger is the best iron player to ever live. He won a major without having a fucking driver in his bag, yet just overpowered guys. Ok.
Classy, were you old enough to ever watch Tiger, or is his greatness he stuff of legends to you? Spieth is so far from being as good as Tiger was it's remarkable...because he is probably the best now. Just shows Tiger was on another planet.
Classy, were you old enough to ever watch Tiger, or is his greatness he stuff of legends to you? Spieth is so far from being as good as Tiger was it's remarkable...because he is probably the best now. Just shows Tiger was on another planet.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Feb 13, 2017 9:38am
Why does anyone think I'm saying Spieth is better? I'm just saying he's a very different type of player, in fact he's Jack Nicklaus without the crazy length where Tiger could just overpower people.Laley23;1836896 wrote:Tiger is the best iron player to ever live. He won a major without having a fucking driver in his bag, yet just overpowered guys. Ok.
Classy, were you old enough to ever watch Tiger, or is his greatness he stuff of legends to you? Spieth is so far from being as good as Tiger was it's remarkable...because he is probably the best now. Just shows Tiger was on another planet.
That's what makes Jack so great though, he was a terrific athlete that had length similar to Tigers but played with Jordan's consistency. That's why I believe Spieth is going to be an all timer, he thinks the game incredibly for someone so young
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 13, 2017 12:25pm
He will be an all time great for sure. But that doesn't make him more consistent than Tiger. Maybe off the tee? Spieth was frankly not very good last year (compared to all time greats). I'd be curious to see where he ranked in tee to green stats and putting etc. Consisntency is he entire game, you can't just say more consistent cause he doesn't spray drives as much. The truest test is cuts made and then finishes, both of which he is nowhere near Tigers level. The claim he is more consistent is just anweird one by you, backed up by the fact he doesn't hit it as far?
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 13, 2017 12:28pm
He is also just under 300 yards. Not like he is short. Yet, only hits 65% of fairways, good for 47th on tour.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 13, 2017 12:38pm
Classy most likely wasn't even born when Tiger won his first major.Laley23;1836896 wrote:Tiger is the best iron player to ever live. He won a major without having a fucking driver in his bag, yet just overpowered guys. Ok.
Classy, were you old enough to ever watch Tiger, or is his greatness he stuff of legends to you? Spieth is so far from being as good as Tiger was it's remarkable...because he is probably the best now. Just shows Tiger was on another planet.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Feb 13, 2017 8:37pm
You don't get it. I'm saying his golf game is more consistent. Tiger consistently was a better player obviously, but Spieth is the kind of guy who will go -4 with 4 birdies while Tiger would probably get 6-7 birdies with 2-3 bogies. Guys like Tiger and to a lesser extent Day, DJ and Rory have success by overpowering the course, Spieth does it through excellent course management, remarkably consistent contact, and great puttingLaley23;1836942 wrote:He will be an all time great for sure. But that doesn't make him more consistent than Tiger. Maybe off the tee? Spieth was frankly not very good last year (compared to all time greats). I'd be curious to see where he ranked in tee to green stats and putting etc. Consisntency is he entire game, you can't just say more consistent cause he doesn't spray drives as much. The truest test is cuts made and then finishes, both of which he is nowhere near Tigers level. The claim he is more consistent is just anweird one by you, backed up by the fact he doesn't hit it as far?