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Feb 28, 2017 2:38 PM
SportsAndLady;1838997 wrote:Question..is Drew Brees an alltime great QB? Is he a top 5 QB? Top 10? Outside of the top 10?
I'd go top 10.

In other news, Vikings decline $17 million option on AD.
Feb 28, 2017 2:38pm
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Feb 28, 2017 2:52 PM
sleeper;1838999 wrote:What?

Easily top 3. I'd only put Brady and Peyton ahead of him. No question he's a top 5 QB all-time.
For as much emphasis as you put on winning, I'm surprised by your answer.
Feb 28, 2017 2:52pm
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Feb 28, 2017 2:55 PM
SportsAndLady;1839003 wrote:For as much emphasis as you put on winning, I'm surprised by your answer.
He won a Super Bowl and a Super Bowl MVP. That on top of his stats as a QB, he's easily the 3rd best QB ever.
Feb 28, 2017 2:55pm
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Feb 28, 2017 2:56 PM
sleeper;1839004 wrote:He won a Super Bowl and a Super Bowl MVP. That on top of his stats as a QB, he's easily the 3rd best QB ever.
Half his 15 seasons he's been .500 or worse.

I'd put him around 8-10'ish all time qbs.
Feb 28, 2017 2:56pm
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Feb 28, 2017 2:58 PM
SportsAndLady;1839005 wrote:Half his 15 seasons he's been .500 or worse.

I'd put him around 8-10'ish all time qbs.
Because his teams have been garbage.
Feb 28, 2017 2:58pm
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Feb 28, 2017 3:01 PM
I'm not here to argue, just curious what everyone's thoughts were on that.

Friend of mine is a big Purdue guy and is dead set on him being top 5 QB all time. I was thinking more like top 10 but it's for sure been an interesting debate.
Feb 28, 2017 3:01pm
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Feb 28, 2017 3:16 PM
1. Otto
2. Brady
3. Peyton
4. Farve
5. Marino
6. Rodgers
7. Elway
8. Montana
9. Unitas
10. Tarkerton
11. Steve Young

11 players I thought of off the top of my head that'd I'd have above Brees.
Feb 28, 2017 3:16pm
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Feb 28, 2017 4:07 PM
Drew Brees isn't a top 3 QB of all-time. C'mon. He's not even top 3 in the 2000's. Manning, Brady and Rodgers are all better.
Feb 28, 2017 4:07pm
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Feb 28, 2017 4:07 PM
At the same time, Brees is basically Marino, but won a ring.
Feb 28, 2017 4:07pm
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Feb 28, 2017 4:09 PM
Throw stats out, because eras and all. He is 3rd best in this era behind Brady/Peyton. Hard to make a case for top 5 at that point.

Elway
Montana
Marino
Favre
Tarkenton
Graham
Unitas

Those guys were all at the top of their eras. I'd go top 10, but not not 5. If I went into really deep digging, he may even fall just outside the top 10.
Feb 28, 2017 4:09pm
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Feb 28, 2017 5:01 PM
Brees over Rodgers? I just can't see how. Unless you penalize Rodgers because he hasn't played as long. Rodgers with a career 104.1 rating, which is ridiculous, 297 career TD and 72 INT. Brees is at 96.3 with 465 TD and 230 INT.
Feb 28, 2017 5:01pm
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Feb 28, 2017 5:21 PM
To me Brees is in the pack of Marino, Fouts and Moon...somewhere in the top 10 but not top 5

1. Brady
2. Elway
3. Manning
4. Montana
5. Favre
6. Steve Young

Rodgers jumping into the top 10 as his career continues on.

Looks like Brees is as high as #8 for me but not lower than 10.
Feb 28, 2017 5:21pm
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Feb 28, 2017 5:59 PM
Azubuike24;1839020 wrote:Brees over Rodgers? I just can't see how. Unless you penalize Rodgers because he hasn't played as long. Rodgers with a career 104.1 rating, which is ridiculous, 297 career TD and 72 INT. Brees is at 96.3 with 465 TD and 230 INT.
Maybe wrong, but I put Rodgers in the era after those 3. Rodgers will end up ahead of Brees no doubt, but not yet. My list after that was just guys before him that may or may not be ahead of him.
Feb 28, 2017 5:59pm
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Feb 28, 2017 6:30 PM
Ironman92;1839021 wrote:To me Brees is in the pack of Marino, Fouts and Moon...somewhere in the top 10 but not top 5

1. Brady
2. Elway
3. Manning
4. Montana
5. Favre
6. Steve Young

Rodgers jumping into the top 10 as his career continues on.

Looks like Brees is as high as #8 for me but not lower than 10.
you're missing Otto Graham.
Feb 28, 2017 6:30pm
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Feb 28, 2017 6:31 PM
Azubuike24;1839014 wrote:At the same time, Brees is basically Marino, but won a ring.
So did Trent Dilfer.
Feb 28, 2017 6:31pm
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Feb 28, 2017 6:39 PM
I'd have Brees somewhere in the 7-10 range.
Feb 28, 2017 6:39pm
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Feb 28, 2017 6:47 PM
Commander of Awesome;1839026 wrote:you're missing Otto Graham.
Fuck that palindrome'd named SOB
Feb 28, 2017 6:47pm
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Feb 28, 2017 7:19 PM
Commander of Awesome;1839026 wrote:you're missing Otto Graham.
Just stop. No one even knows who this is.
Feb 28, 2017 7:19pm
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Feb 28, 2017 7:21 PM
Laley23;1839015 wrote:Throw stats out, because eras and all. He is 3rd best in this era behind Brady/Peyton. Hard to make a case for top 5 at that point.

Elway
Montana
Marino
Favre
Tarkenton
Graham
Unitas

Those guys were all at the top of their eras. I'd go top 10, but not not 5. If I went into really deep digging, he may even fall just outside the top 10.
Ah, so throw out all the objective stats and be subjective.

Close it up boys.
Feb 28, 2017 7:21pm
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Feb 28, 2017 7:31 PM
sleeper;1839037 wrote:Just stop. No one even knows who this is.
Sleeper the NFL/Browns "fan" ladies and gentlemen. Brees is a HOF QB, but he does not sniff the top 5, let alone top 3.
Feb 28, 2017 7:31pm
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Feb 28, 2017 7:33 PM
sleeper;1839037 wrote:Just stop. No one even knows who this is.
Idiot post of the week
Feb 28, 2017 7:33pm
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Feb 28, 2017 7:47 PM
No one knows who Otto graham is? Lol sleeper is a fucking moron.
Feb 28, 2017 7:47pm
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Feb 28, 2017 8:20 PM
Rodgers and Brees will both probably end up playing in the league during a 15-year span together. How are they not in the same era?
Feb 28, 2017 8:20pm
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Feb 28, 2017 8:26 PM
Otto played for about a decade and won about every game those years. His first 3-5 years was the AAFC which had about 7 teams in the entire league. The last 4-6 years was NFL which had 12 most of the 50's I believe.

Pretty sure some of his championships they defeated the New York Yankees lol.

Otto = Top 26
Feb 28, 2017 8:26pm
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Feb 28, 2017 8:30 PM
Azubuike24;1839050 wrote:Rodgers and Brees will both probably end up playing in the league during a 15-year span together. How are they not in the same era?
Pretty much same era but Brees had over 20,000 yards passing and 125 TD passes before Rodgers started a game.
Feb 28, 2017 8:30pm