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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Nov 5, 2017 5:16pm
He wasn’t consistent in 2014? unfuckingbelievableSportsAndLady;1880207 wrote:Good QBs are consistent. JT has never been consistent. That’s my beef with him.
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Nov 5, 2017 5:17pm
That's absurd, especially considering the fact that Urban is 3-2 against Dantonio since coming to Ohio State. The last two games have been decided by a total of 4 points.wildcats20;1880278 wrote:OSU opens as a 15.5 point favorite for Saturday. What?

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 5, 2017 5:23pm
College Football wants them as part of the maybe candidateswildcats20;1880278 wrote:OSU opens as a 15.5 point favorite for Saturday. What?
If they win out they’ll be in discussion but fall short about #6

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 5, 2017 5:24pm
Yup. Probably 7th if Washington wins out.Ironman92;1880282 wrote:College Football wants them as part of the maybe candidates
If they win out they’ll be in discussion but fall short about #6

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 5, 2017 6:24pm
He was 9/29 with 3 INTs vs Va Tech. Lolvball10set;1880279 wrote:He wasn’t consistent in 2014? unfuckingbelievable
Edit: 12/19 74 yards, 2 INTs vs Penn State.
Maybe look up what inconsistent means?

FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Nov 5, 2017 9:38pm
Lol there are times here when i reevaluate my position because certain people agree with me.SportsAndLady;1880248 wrote:I really hate that CC agreed with me ..

FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Nov 6, 2017 11:43am
I just read that MSU's qb has thrown for 400 yards 2 weeks in a row. Let's hope he doesn't make it 3...

Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Nov 6, 2017 11:58am
I miss Tressel.

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 6, 2017 11:59am
How does Meyer fail to understand this poor trend?
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2017/11/87537/running-backs-disappear-in-yet-another-stunning-ohio-state-loss
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2017/11/87537/running-backs-disappear-in-yet-another-stunning-ohio-state-loss

ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Nov 6, 2017 12:27pm
How many of these are reads, though? If they are reads, then it's more JT than the coaches.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 6, 2017 12:46pm
They need to line up and run the ball. No read option, no run-pass-option. Run the ball down someone's threat.

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 6, 2017 12:56pm
It doesn't matter, the numbers don't lie. RUN MORE DESIGNED RUNS FOR THE FUCKING RUNNING BACKS.ernest_t_bass;1880399 wrote:How many of these are reads, though? If they are reads, then it's more JT than the coaches.

ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Nov 6, 2017 12:58pm
Automatik;1880409 wrote:It doesn't matter, the numbers don't lie. RUN MORE DESIGNED RUNS FOR THE FUCKING RUNNING BACKS.


Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Nov 6, 2017 1:06pm
When a school's number #1 run option is doing the exact same play over and over again (JT gets ball, acts like he's handing to back and either does hand it off or fakes it and runs himself), I'd say the problem is a lack of diversity and imagination in play calling. Regardless of how superior a team supposedly is based on the star ratings of players on the field, if a decent team is 90+% sure what you're running, you aren't going to have much success most of the time.ernest_t_bass;1880399 wrote:How many of these are reads, though? If they are reads, then it's more JT than the coaches.

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 6, 2017 1:18pm
Yeah, needless to say OSU has me triggered on this garbage Monday.ernest_t_bass;1880410 wrote:

ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Nov 6, 2017 1:24pm
The issue with the read is that you put too much trust in your QB and you forget to pull the reins in when he's not making the right reads. Or, you continue to call the read when the defense is making your QB run it every single time by taking away the run option of it... then you're taking away a blocker. Like Automatik said, you have to do designed runs to add the blocker and purposely get the ball out of JT's hands.Heretic;1880415 wrote:When a school's number #1 run option is doing the exact same play over and over again (JT gets ball, acts like he's handing to back and either does hand it off or fakes it and runs himself), I'd say the problem is a lack of diversity and imagination in play calling. Regardless of how superior a team supposedly is based on the star ratings of players on the field, if a decent team is 90+% sure what you're running, you aren't going to have much success most of the time.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 7, 2017 7:47pm
OSU down to 13th in the Playoff rankings. Sparty at 12.

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 7, 2017 8:23pm
Season is over anyway. Thanks Urban.
Just beat Michigan and I'll be somewhat ok with how it turned out.
Just beat Michigan and I'll be somewhat ok with how it turned out.
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Nov 7, 2017 8:42pm
If this team can get their act together, win out and win the Big Ten Championship, then it'll be a successful season. Obviously, not the season everyone had in mind, but it's still solid. Winning a bowl game against a premier opponent would really give them a lot of momentum heading into next season as well.
Now, after watching what transpired last weekend, I don't have much confidence in any of the stuff I mentioned actually happening, but I'm not giving up yet. There is talent there. I wanna see that talent put in a position to be successful, and then I want to see them execute. We'll see what happens on Saturday.
Now, after watching what transpired last weekend, I don't have much confidence in any of the stuff I mentioned actually happening, but I'm not giving up yet. There is talent there. I wanna see that talent put in a position to be successful, and then I want to see them execute. We'll see what happens on Saturday.

BRF
Posts: 8,748
Nov 7, 2017 10:56pm
Me, too.Automatik;1880712 wrote:
Just beat Michigan and I'll be somewhat ok with how it turned out.

Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Nov 8, 2017 12:46am
Does anyone think coaching turnover is catching up with Ohio State? I'm highly confident if we had Fickell & Herman things would be different
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Nov 8, 2017 7:25am
Coaching turnover could be part of the problem, as well as player turnover. Ohio State has lost a lot of guys early to the NFL recently.Classyposter58;1880739 wrote:Does anyone think coaching turnover is catching up with Ohio State? I'm highly confident if we had Fickell & Herman things would be different
That said, you still just can't lose by 31 to Iowa.

Spock
Posts: 2,853
Nov 8, 2017 7:53am
Bama and many other top programs arent losing by 30+ ever. THat is what should concern all of us. Big time programs with big time recruits should NEVER get blown out. If they do, its the coaching.ironman02;1880748 wrote:Coaching turnover could be part of the problem, as well as player turnover. Ohio State has lost a lot of guys early to the NFL recently.
That said, you still just can't lose by 31 to Iowa.

Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 8, 2017 10:08am
I was curious after that loss and looked it up a few days ago... I don’t remember the exact year but Bama has only lost 1 game by more than a TD since 2009 or 2010.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 8, 2017 10:44am
So what happens if OSU wins out (B1G title game over undefeated Wisconsin) and some of these other teams finish with 2 losses? Does OSU have any shot to get back in the playoff convo?
ND could lose again either to Stanford or this wknd to Miami. 2 losses.
Clemson loses in the conference title game to Miami. 2 losses
Georgia loses this wknd @ auburn and then to Alabama in the conf title game. 2 losses
Oklahoma loses in the conf title game. 2 losses
Tcu loses this wknd to Oklahoma. 2 losses.
Washington loses @ Stanford this wknd. 2 losses.
Gotta think it’d be Bama, Miami and then Bucks squeak in?
ND could lose again either to Stanford or this wknd to Miami. 2 losses.
Clemson loses in the conference title game to Miami. 2 losses
Georgia loses this wknd @ auburn and then to Alabama in the conf title game. 2 losses
Oklahoma loses in the conf title game. 2 losses
Tcu loses this wknd to Oklahoma. 2 losses.
Washington loses @ Stanford this wknd. 2 losses.
Gotta think it’d be Bama, Miami and then Bucks squeak in?