Classyposter58;1880169 wrote:Yeah Barrett forced it a bit much. But they gave up 38 to Penn State, and now 55 to Iowa.

On a bright note, MSU tickets should be cheap

This isn't Detroit dumbass. Fans will still show up.

OSU should never give up 55 to Iowa. They have better players at every position. Coaches got ourcoahed

Spock;1880172 wrote:OSU should never give up 55 to Iowa. They have better players at every position. Coaches got ourcoahed

ourcoahed indeed

My guess is that will be ranked about 20th

The common thread in every one of the recent Ohio State losses is refusing to establish the running game with the RBs. When the offense starts relying on Barrett to run the football more than the RBs, the Buckeyes lose. It's a recipe for disaster, but it keeps being repeated. I get that Ohio State was playing from behind today, but it was a two score game at halftime. The defense got a couple stops to start the 2nd half, but Ohio State had three straight 3 and outs to start the half. Not one touch for a RB during those series. This is not a Kevin Wilson problem because it was happening before he arrived. It's an Urban Meyer problem.

JT was bad today. He made two terrible decisions, and now his confidence is gone yet again. I really thought he had turned the corner and made progress, but I think he is messed up mentally again, and I can only hope that he can get it back before next week. Dantonio will make our offense look foolish if we revert back to those same tendencies of trying to run the ball with JT anytime things get tight.

Defensively, we miss Luke Fickell a lot. The LBs have been out of position constantly against Oklahoma and Iowa. You can't tell me that Jerome Baker, Dante Booker, and Chris Worley can't cover FBs and TEs. They look lost out there somehow. Arnette and Webb, and even Fuller today, can't cover anyone or tackle anyone. If the D-Line doesn't completely dominate the game, those guys can't do anything.

So many different problems.

Spock;1880188 wrote:My guess is that will be ranked about 20th

they'll be in the 14-16 range.

ironman02;1880189 wrote:The common thread in every one of the recent Ohio State losses is refusing to establish the running game with the RBs.

This happens every time the Buckeyes have lost. It amazes me that this happens. Two pretty good backs and they dont get to touch the ball. Very disappointed in this game. Really have not words to express how pissed I am about the coaching in the game.

Urban coaching for a heisman and not a win. Iowa probably spent all week scheming for JT.

One word. Embarrassing.

ernest_t_bass;1880159 wrote:JFC. STFU... do you not remember last week? JT Barrett was incredible last week, the JT of Old. Plays like shit today, and right back to the vitriol.

Fans are the fucking worst

Good QBs are consistent. JT has never been consistent. That’s my beef with him.

SportsAndLady;1880207 wrote:Good QBs are consistent. JT has never been consistent. That’s my beef with him.

Good point. There was a reason OSU won a title with Jones. He was a real QB.

Let's see:

1. Defense was utter trash, making Iowa's QB look Heisman-worthy (to their credit, their receivers were on yesterday, catching a lot of throws that were a bit off). Do they even have a secondary or are they bringing in random guys off the street to try to cover people?
2. Barrett was bad. Can't even say he was reverting to form after last week's great game, since he never was that error-prone previously.
3. Play-calling was atrocious. Running backs were forgotten about, putting everything on the shoulders of a QB who was struggling mightily.

For a good chunk of the first half, it looked like an ugly game that would either be close throughout or close until OSU surged in the second half. Then, they completely fell apart in the final minutes of the second quarter and never recovered. Barrett's second pick not only turned 24-17 into 31-17 right before the half, but also seemed to utterly destroy him confidence-wise and Urban showed a complete lack of awareness of that, continuing to make him the focal point of every single play. Just bizarre how a legitimately great coach can be so blind to how things are going in the middle of a game and be unable to adjust, instead of blindly doubling down on what isn't working.

Spock;1880208 wrote:Good point. There was a reason OSU won a title with Jones. He was a real QB.

Jesus fucking christ...

Jones had an amazing three-game stretch that drastically inflated his draft stock. If he was a "real QB", he wouldn't have fallen off a cliff production-wise at the beginning of the next year, leading to QB Musical Chairs for a good chunk of the season between him and Barrett. Frank Reich syndrome at its finest.

Heretic;1880220 wrote:Jesus fucking christ...

Jones had an amazing three-game stretch that drastically inflated his draft stock. If he was a "real QB", he wouldn't have fallen off a cliff production-wise at the beginning of the next year, leading to QB Musical Chairs for a good chunk of the season between him and Barrett. Frank Reich syndrome at its finest.

don't waste your time arguing with spock and sportsandlady. they don't use logic like you or i. one of them is an avid trump supporter, the other is a browns fan.

Heretic;1880220 wrote:Jesus fucking christ...

Jones had an amazing three-game stretch that drastically inflated his draft stock. If he was a "real QB", he wouldn't have fallen off a cliff production-wise at the beginning of the next year, leading to QB Musical Chairs for a good chunk of the season between him and Barrett. Frank Reich syndrome at its finest.

So lets ignore the facts by calling it "luck"?

He won a title and 3 huge games that Barrett would not of won

Spock;1880235 wrote:So lets ignore the facts by calling it "luck"?

He won a title and 3 huge games that Barrett would not of won

waiting on the facts to support this

Doesn't matter one bit, but OSU only fell to 11 in the coaches poll.

Spock;1880235 wrote:So lets ignore the facts by calling it "luck"?

He won a title and 3 huge games that Barrett would not of won

You're the only one ignoring facts (such as that I never used the word "luck", for one). Jones was great in three games; after that, he was merely pedestrian as far as on-field results. You can't simply pick the three best games out of a person's career and say he's a "real QB" in comparison to another guy when in other games, he was equal or inferior to that guy.

Heretic;1880239 wrote:You're the only one ignoring facts (such as that I never used the word "luck", for one). Jones was great in three games; after that, he was merely pedestrian as far as on-field results. You can't simply pick the three best games out of a person's career and say he's a "real QB" in comparison to another guy when in other games, he was equal or inferior to that guy.

Then you shouldnt do it by judging him the next year. He should of went pro when the srove was hot. Smart he wasnt

Spock;1880242 wrote:Then you shouldnt do it by judging him the next year. He should of went pro when the srove was hot. Smart he wasnt

Should’ve*

Are you that dense on purpose?

Spock;1880242 wrote:Then you shouldnt do it by judging him the next year. He should of went pro when the srove was hot. Smart he wasnt

This is just pure stupidity and I don't just mean your horrible grammar and inability to handle simple English.

Spock;1880242 wrote:Then you shouldnt do it by judging him the next year. He should of went pro when the srove was hot. Smart he wasnt

Just wow.

I really hate that CC agreed with me ..

wildcats20;1880238 wrote:Doesn't matter one bit, but OSU only fell to 11 in the coaches poll.

And in the AP.

Shockingly, Penn State fell from 7 to 16 in the AP.

OSU opens as a 15.5 point favorite for Saturday. What?