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Con_Alma
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Apr 14, 2017 1:53pm
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 14, 2017 1:56pm
You don't understand PP, their revenue streams, or how Medicaid works.gut;1847812 wrote:LMFAO. I read that. What did you think I needed educated on, or do you not actually understand the issue you've pretended to research?
I guess we should strip Medicaid of vaccination services because they cause Austism, amiright? If vacinnes are profitable, they can become a stand alone business. And Pharmacies shouldn't sell condoms because if condoms are so profitable then why can't we just open condom only shops? I also don't think grocery stores should be able to sell bananas because some people are allergic and bananas are profitable so they should have no problem opening up banana stands across the country.
The party of small government wants to use big government to influence people's individual healthcare choices right down to their provider. Enjoy!
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gut
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Apr 14, 2017 1:56pm
^^^^yep, PP is just an abortion clinic that provides other services to dupe donors and sponge off of Medicaid
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Apr 14, 2017 1:57pm
You've made it abundantly clear that PP can't survive without Medicaid....but Medicaid isn't being used to subsidize abortion. Mmmkkkay.sleeper;1847820 wrote:You don't understand PP, their revenue streams, or how Medicaid works.
There are abortion providers who don't take Medicaid, and there are comprehensive care clinics that don't perform abortions. Both those models can work, so maybe PP just needs better management to figure out how it's done.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 14, 2017 1:57pm
It does not. Medicaid provides a place for women to make their own healthcare decisions about their own body. If they choose to have an abortion, they can pay for the cost of that with their own money.gut;1847818 wrote:So finally we get around to you agreeing that Medicaid does, in fact, subsidize abortion.
Carry on with your Fox News misinformation campaign though!
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 14, 2017 1:58pm
3% of their services go to safe and legal abortion. Yeah definitely an abortion clinic.gut;1847821 wrote:^^^^yep, PP is just an abortion clinic that provides other services to dupe donors and sponge off of Medicaid
Facts don't care about your feelings.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 14, 2017 1:59pm
They can survive without Medicaid reimbursements. That isn't the issue; they would be not able to serve the low income women who need healthcare services the most because they would not be able to afford to give away pap smears for free.gut;1847822 wrote:You've made it abundantly clear that PP can't survive without Medicaid....but Medicaid isn't being used to subsidize abortion. Mmmkkkay.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 14, 2017 1:59pm
And how many of these accept Medicaid? How many of these are in low income communities?Con_Alma;1847819 wrote:
Nice chart from the Heritage Foundation! Very unbiased, would read again.
like_that
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Apr 14, 2017 2:05pm
Sleeper now cares about poor people? :RpS_lol:
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 14, 2017 2:08pm
Yes how horrible of me to advocate for our nation's most vulnerable populations?like_that;1847828 wrote:Sleeper now cares about poor people? :RpS_lol:
I guess we should just let Republicans tell them to "Pull themselves up by the bootstraps just like our President did!
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gut
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Apr 14, 2017 2:14pm
So Medicaid does fund PP and it's abortion services? Here you are, again, making the case that PP can't survive without Medicaid. Fungible.sleeper;1847826 wrote:And how many of these accept Medicaid? How many of these are in low income communities?
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gut
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Apr 14, 2017 2:15pm
When you can't get a walk-in abortion down the street, you might miss Oprah.like_that;1847828 wrote:Sleeper now cares about poor people? :RpS_lol:
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 14, 2017 2:18pm
We already know you are a fraud and how you actually feel about poor people. Keep the fraud troll act though!troll trash sleeper;1847829 wrote:Yes how horrible of me to advocate for our nation's most vulnerable populations?
I guess we should just let Republicans tell them to "Pull themselves up by the bootstraps just like our President did!
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 14, 2017 2:23pm
PP can survive without Medicaid but it would not be able to serve the most vulnerable communities. This really isn't complicated but it doesn't agree with your Fox News generated hysteria to deny women access to care because they also provide safe and legal abortions.gut;1847830 wrote:So Medicaid does fund PP and it's abortion services? Here you are, again, making the case that PP can't survive without Medicaid. Fungible.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 14, 2017 2:28pm
You're welcome to provide a meaningful contribution to this thread at any time.like_that;1847833 wrote:We already know you are a fraud and how you actually feel about poor people. Keep the fraud troll act though!
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BoatShoes
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Apr 14, 2017 2:28pm
Medicaid should also not cover Oral Contraceptions either since one of their mechanisms of action knowingly causes newly conceived human beings to fail to implant in the endometrium and die.
Why do we allow our tax dollars to support this slaughter???
Why do we allow our tax dollars to support this slaughter???
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QuakerOats
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Apr 14, 2017 2:29pm
How much does personal responsibility cost? Zero.
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BoatShoes
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Apr 14, 2017 2:38pm
How much does failing to accept the world as it is and trying to come up with possible ways to solve problems?QuakerOats;1847839 wrote:How much does personal responsibility cost? Zero.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 14, 2017 2:42pm
I have. You are exposed as a fraud. I challenge you to take your own advice. Enjoy!sleeper;1847837 wrote:You're welcome to provide a meaningful contribution to this thread at any time.
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gut
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Apr 14, 2017 2:46pm
BoatShoes;1847838 wrote:Medicaid should also not cover Oral Contraceptions either since one of their mechanisms of action knowingly causes newly conceived human beings to fail to implant in the endometrium and die.
One of several mechanisms, not the only one nor the primary one. And not universal to all oral contraceptives.
And essentially the Hobby Lobby case.
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Con_Alma
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Apr 14, 2017 2:47pm
You won't like the answers.sleeper;1847826 wrote:And how many of these accept Medicaid? How many of these are in low income communities?
Nice chart from the Heritage Foundation! Very unbiased, would read again.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 14, 2017 2:51pm
I guess women who have been raped are responsible then. I guess victims of incest are irresponsible and should be punished accordingly.QuakerOats;1847839 wrote:How much does personal responsibility cost? Zero.
Women who use protection in the form of a condom and IUD should be forced into childbirth and 18 years of responsibility.
An abortion is being personally responsible and understanding the consequences of your actions. It would be irresponsible to raise a child that you cannot provide for and if Republicans weren't so blinded by religion they would be 100% for abortion access and enhancing access to contraceptives.
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gut
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Apr 14, 2017 2:51pm
Abortion should be fast, convenient and free. Isn't that how the saying goes?Con_Alma;1847848 wrote:You won't like the answers.
sleeper
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Apr 14, 2017 2:52pm
Why not?Con_Alma;1847848 wrote:You won't like the answers.
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gut
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Apr 14, 2017 2:53pm
Don't worry, Medicaid already covers their abortion.sleeper;1847851 wrote:I guess women who have been raped are responsible then. I guess victims of incest are irresponsible and should be punished accordingly.