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isadore
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Dec 26, 2016 9:23am
Hail Trump, the corporate sellouts pushing right to work sell it as a job creator, but 5 out 10 at the bottom have it. And the top 9 states and DC with the highest incomes all reject it.bases_loaded;1829948 wrote:So 5 out of the 10 states with the highest unemployment do not have right to work laws?
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like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 26, 2016 10:07am
He should have stuck with gosh a ruddies.Heretic;1829737 wrote:I'm more disappointed it took Izzy over a month to decide how to react to the election and, even then, all he could come up with was passive-aggressive faux-acceptance. That's almost as pitiful as QQ's over-the-top crying.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 26, 2016 11:08am
Or a single bullet in his head so we don't have to read his garbage anymore.like_that;1829957 wrote:He should have stuck with gosh a ruddies.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Dec 26, 2016 11:47am
Hail Trump, we all must adjust to life under the New Order.like_that;1829957 wrote:He should have stuck with gosh a ruddies.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Dec 26, 2016 11:49am
Hail Trump. And I thought you only came here for the pictures.SportsAndLady;1829964 wrote:Or a single bullet in his head so we don't have to read his garbage anymore.
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Dec 26, 2016 12:38pm
I loooooove me some Isadore over the holidays! \o/
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isadore
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Dec 26, 2016 2:14pm
Hail Trump, so into the seasonal spirit.CenterBHSFan;1829971 wrote:I loooooove me some Isadore over the holidays! \o/
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Dec 27, 2016 8:51am
lol D.C has the highest income of the right to steal all their income from those actually working. You're a cunty snowflakeisadore;1829951 wrote:Hail Trump, the corporate sellouts pushing right to work sell it as a job creator, but 5 out 10 at the bottom have it. And the top 9 states and DC with the highest incomes all reject it.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Dec 27, 2016 9:29am
Hail Trump! ad hominin attack, appropriately pathetic. But as to the facts: Hail Trump The top 4 New Hampshire $75, 675, Alaska $ 75,112, Maryland $ 75,594, Connecticut $73,899 all reject right to work, then Mississippi $40, 037, Arkansas $42, 798, West Virginia $42,824, Alabama $44,509 all right to work states.bases_loaded;1830004 wrote:lol D.C has the highest income of the right to steal all their income from those actually working. You're a cunty snowflake
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O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Dec 27, 2016 11:24am
On the plus side, maybe quonset huts will make a comeback.isadore;1829719 wrote:Hail Trump
Thank you for reintroducing the arms race to international relations. Gosh a ruddies we can get back to the good old days of fallout shelters and nuclear drills in the schools.
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Dec 27, 2016 11:27am
A few questions on your quote.isadore;1830005 wrote:Hail Trump! ad hominin attack, appropriately pathetic. But as to the facts: Hail Trump The top 4 New Hampshire $75, 675, Alaska $ 75,112, Maryland $ 75,594, Connecticut $73,899 all reject right to work, The bottom 5 Alabama $40, 037, Kentucky $42, 387, Arkansas $42, 798, West Virginia $42,824, Alabama $44,509 all right to work states.
1.) When were those numbers taken?
2.) The bottom four - how many of those states have had coal/steel/other industry shut down with nothing to replace those industries?
3.) The top four - what are their public union numbers vs others?
These aren't "gotcha" questions, I think it would be interesting to see a wider scope of those facts.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Dec 27, 2016 11:41am
Also, of the bottom five, he mentioned Alabama twice.CenterBHSFan;1830015 wrote:A few questions on your quote.
1.) When were those numbers taken?
2.) The bottom four - how many of those states have had coal/steel/other industry shut down with nothing to replace those industries?
3.) The top four - what are their public union numbers vs others?
These aren't "gotcha" questions, I think it would be interesting to see a wider scope of those facts.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Dec 27, 2016 12:22pm
That the Union way .. poor research and bad math, misguided information and factsO-Trap;1830016 wrote:Also, of the bottom five, he mentioned Alabama twice.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Dec 27, 2016 12:32pm
Hail TrumpO-Trap;1830016 wrote:Also, of the bottom five, he mentioned Alabama twice.
Mississippi should be last with $40,037 But really Alabama and Mississippi are interchangeable
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Dec 27, 2016 1:01pm
Hail Trump. no research, no sources and no value, Alec meets Belly.Belly35;1830023 wrote:That the Union way .. poor research and bad math, misguided information and facts
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Dec 27, 2016 1:03pm
Hail Trump, here is some feedbackCenterBHSFan;1830015 wrote:A few questions on your quote.
1.) When were those numbers taken?
2.) The bottom four - how many of those states have had coal/steel/other industry shut down with nothing to replace those industries?
3.) The top four - what are their public union numbers vs others?
These aren't "gotcha" questions, I think it would be interesting to see a wider scope of those facts.
1. Median incomes are 2015 Median incomes from the Census. Unemployment figures are from November, 2016 from Bureau of Labor Statistics.
2. I thought a major selling point for right to work was that by breaking union those industries would be attracted to those states. Well Alabama has had right to work since 1953, Arkansas 1947, Mississippi, 1954 It seems to have done wonders for them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-work_law
3. That the states listed with high incomes all have Union membership above the national average, while Mississippi, Alabama and Arkansas all have % below the national average. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/union2.pdf
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Dec 27, 2016 1:12pm
How very imprecise of you.isadore;1830026 wrote:Hail Trump
Mississippi should be last with $40,037 But really Alabama and Mississippi are interchangeable
Also, it's nice to hear that you've accepted the fact that you have people-focused prejudices. Trump would be proud.
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Dec 27, 2016 1:29pm
CenterBHSFan;1830015 wrote:A few questions on your quote.
1.) When were those numbers taken?
2.) The bottom four - how many of those states have had coal/steel/other industry shut down with nothing to replace those industries?
3.) The top four - what are their public union numbers vs others?
These aren't "gotcha" questions, I think it would be interesting to see a wider scope of those facts.
I have a clarification issue with your answer to number three.isadore;1830032 wrote:Hail Trump, here is some feedback
1. Median incomes are 2015 Median incomes from the Census. Unemployment figures are from November, 2016 from Bureau of Labor Statistics.
2. I thought a major selling point for right to work was that by breaking union those industries would be attracted to those states. Well Alabama has had right to work since 1953, Arkansas 1947, Mississippi, 1954 It seems to have done wonders for them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-work_law
3. That the states listed with high incomes all have Union membership above the national average, while Mississippi, Alabama and Arkansas all have % below the national average. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/union2.pdf
What I want to know is which has the higher numbers? Are there more public union jobs versus ... let's say... USW unions or UMWA?
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Dec 27, 2016 1:36pm
Good to see isaderp back in action.
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ppaw1999
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Dec 27, 2016 11:20pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_educational_attainmentisadore;1830005 wrote:Hail Trump! ad hominin attack, appropriately pathetic. But as to the facts: Hail Trump The top 4 New Hampshire $75, 675, Alaska $ 75,112, Maryland $ 75,594, Connecticut $73,899 all reject right to work, then Mississippi $40, 037, Arkansas $42, 798, West Virginia $42,824, Alabama $44,509 all right to work states.
Do you think that this has more to do about level of education instead of being right to work states? Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia and Alabama are all near the bottom of the list.
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isadore
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Dec 28, 2016 8:58am
Hail Trump!ppaw1999;1830107 wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_educational_attainment
Do you think that this has more to do about level of education instead of being right to work states? Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia and Alabama are all near the bottom of the list.
The bottom half of that list is packed with right to work states. Arkansas, Mississippi and Alabama have had right to work for over 60 years. Enough time to both raise income and funding for education. Right to work has not produced either.
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isadore
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Dec 28, 2016 9:11am
Hail Trump and how very pompous of you. I am obviously the most tolerant of souls.O-Trap;1830035 wrote:How very imprecise of you.
Also, it's nice to hear that you've accepted the fact that you have people-focused prejudices. Trump would be proud.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Dec 28, 2016 11:27am
Obviously not, if you think two different states, with two unique populations, are interchangeable.isadore;1830119 wrote:Hail Trump and how very pompous of you. I am obviously the most tolerant of souls.
I said nothing pompous. To the contrary, I was happy for your self-realization.
You should be thrilled, then, that Trump is president. The two of you have something in common: gross generalizations of groups of people, in some cases even based on their geography.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 28, 2016 11:38am
Hail Trump.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Dec 28, 2016 12:40pm
ok lets actually talk about something.
Looks like trump is silent on the Israel/Palestine issue today waiting on John Kerry to come out and announce some sort of agreement.
Whatever the deal ends up being, it will be anti Israel. Kerry is a spineless idiot and Obama will never back something good for Israel.
Trump will then come out on Twitter and bash the deal calling for them to wait till be gets into office so he can do it himself.
Looks like trump is silent on the Israel/Palestine issue today waiting on John Kerry to come out and announce some sort of agreement.
Whatever the deal ends up being, it will be anti Israel. Kerry is a spineless idiot and Obama will never back something good for Israel.
Trump will then come out on Twitter and bash the deal calling for them to wait till be gets into office so he can do it himself.