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Feb 15, 2017 10:10 AM
Azubuike24;1837347 wrote:The Pence comments on Flynn were prior to Jan. 20th, so it's fair to say he did not have the inside intelligence of exactly what was said. Of course he's going to back his "employee" until proven otherwise.
Pence made the comments based off of Flynn's own words. Pence then humped that on air. He backed his employee because he trusted him. Because of his lie he lost trust and was fired.
Feb 15, 2017 10:10am
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Feb 15, 2017 10:25 AM
ptown_trojans_1;1837309 wrote:You got proof, or are you just guessing to fit your political view?

And, why are these leaks bad, but Wikileaks is good? Is it just because it is not in favor of your boy?

The guy with the proof is still deceased.

Wiki was more about the corrupt operations, bigotry, and anti-Semitism existing within the high echelons of the democrat party.
Feb 15, 2017 10:25am
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Feb 15, 2017 10:38 AM
QuakerOats;1837352 wrote:The guy with the proof is still deceased.

Wiki was more about the corrupt operations, bigotry, and anti-Semitism existing within the high echelons of the democrat party.
LOL. What a load of conspiracy theory bullshit.
Feb 15, 2017 10:38am
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Feb 15, 2017 10:39 AM
fish82;1837340 wrote:So is leaking SIGNIT to David Ignatius, but whatevs.
Yeah, that is what sparked the whole thing. Really in the Op-ed by Ignatius, all he said was there was a call between Flynn and the Ruskie. It was almost a throw away line in the middle/ end of the Op-ed. People picked up on that and then sure enough, leaks started to occur.
Feb 15, 2017 10:39am
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Feb 15, 2017 10:46 AM
Man, I really really hope Howard takes the National Security Adviser role. Seems like he would bring in his own people and would bring actual structure to the NSC.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/15/robert-harward-plans-a-housecleaning-of-trumps-national-security-council-staff/

The names as deputies are solid and are national security professionals, not talking heads.
Feb 15, 2017 10:46am
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Feb 15, 2017 11:14 AM
ptown_trojans_1;1837358 wrote:Man, I really really hope Howard takes the National Security Adviser role. Seems like he would bring in his own people and would bring actual structure to the NSC.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/15/robert-harward-plans-a-housecleaning-of-trumps-national-security-council-staff/

The names as deputies are solid and are national security professionals, not talking heads.
Agreed. Good choice.
Feb 15, 2017 11:14am
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Feb 15, 2017 11:34 AM
ptown_trojans_1;1837358 wrote:Man, I really really hope Howard takes the National Security Adviser role.....
Amen to that. Great man.
Feb 15, 2017 11:34am
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Feb 15, 2017 12:00 PM
majorspark;1837326 wrote:LOL. In my lifetime I say I say no one can beat ole foghorn leghorn himself Howell Heflin.
In the older days of SNL, I remember Chris Farley and Dana Carvey doing hilarious versions of Heflin and Strom Thurmond, respectively.
Feb 15, 2017 12:00pm
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Feb 15, 2017 1:55 PM
Netanyahu praising Trump during presser .........no doubt happy the last prez is gone.
Feb 15, 2017 1:55pm
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Feb 15, 2017 2:07 PM
QuakerOats;1837390 wrote:Netanyahu praising Trump during presser .........no doubt happy the last prez is gone.
Yeah, no doubt he did not like Obama.
Still, Trump said Israel should knock off the settlement expansion. Trump also said he is open to a one state solution, which is a break from long standing U.S. policy.
Simple put, a one state that remains "largely Jewish in Government" would be apartheid.

But, we'll see if anything honestly changes. I doubt it does.
Feb 15, 2017 2:07pm
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QuakerOats

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Feb 15, 2017 2:36 PM
What a struggle it has been over there.
Feb 15, 2017 2:36pm
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Feb 15, 2017 3:21 PM
Hail Trump
To great selections by Donald, Flynn and Puzder
Feb 15, 2017 3:21pm
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Feb 15, 2017 3:31 PM
isadore;1837427 wrote:Hail Trump
To great selections by Donald, Flynn and Puzder
Don't forget Carter Page and Paul Manafort!

Hail Trump!
Feb 15, 2017 3:31pm
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Feb 15, 2017 3:40 PM
Hail Trump
Carter Page-dasvidaniya
Paul Manafort-dasvidaniya
Michael Flynn-dasvidaniya
Donald Trump-
Feb 15, 2017 3:40pm
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Feb 15, 2017 3:50 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1837358 wrote:Man, I really really hope Howard takes the National Security Adviser role. Seems like he would bring in his own people and would bring actual structure to the NSC.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/15/robert-harward-plans-a-housecleaning-of-trumps-national-security-council-staff/

The names as deputies are solid and are national security professionals, not talking heads.
fish82;1837360 wrote:Agreed. Good choice.
Con_Alma;1837364 wrote:Amen to that. Great man.
I would just like to point out these three agreements.
Feb 15, 2017 3:50pm
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Feb 15, 2017 4:40 PM
up 107 again today ..........

not-fake portfolio enhancement.
Feb 15, 2017 4:40pm
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Feb 15, 2017 4:50 PM
I am making money hand over fist in the market. Thank Donald. News media can't fake that
Feb 15, 2017 4:50pm
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Feb 15, 2017 4:56 PM
O-Trap;1837438 wrote:I would just like to point out these three agreements.
So with these 3 all agreeing, there's no way this common sense decision gets made.
Feb 15, 2017 4:56pm
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Feb 15, 2017 5:20 PM
Spock;1837448 wrote:I am making money hand over fist in the market. Thank Donald. News media can't fake that
Lol, I'm sure you are buddy.
Feb 15, 2017 5:20pm
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Feb 16, 2017 12:06 AM
Spock;1837448 wrote:I am making money hand over fist in the market. Thank Donald. News media can't fake that
Not that you owe it, but I'd love to see proof.
superman;1837451 wrote:So with these 3 all agreeing, there's no way this common sense decision gets made.
LOL! Reps.
Feb 16, 2017 12:06am
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Feb 16, 2017 12:51 AM
O-Trap;1837489 wrote:Not that you owe it, but I'd love to see proof.
Ehh, it's up like 10% since the election. If you had $1M, I'd call $100k *hand over fist". If you had $5k in the market, I'd call $500 walking around money.

These markets make me very, very nervous. Much of the Obama run-up (post recovery from the recession sell-off) was fueled by extraordinary low rates and, almost literally, helicopter money. That run-up is on a shakier footing than the financial services housing bubble under W. But the post-election run is driven by even less, economic perfection from a guy who doesn't have much of a plan (much less a good one).

The PE ratio of the S&P500 is over 26X. That's a pretty strong indicator a recession is looming. Granted, a good chunk, maybe 15%, of current valuations is because of the absurdly low interest rates. But a return to more "normal" fed funds rates in the 5-6% range is probably at least a 20% headwind, and the conundrum for me is how can markets be so optimistic while ignoring the interest rates that would come along with such strong growth? And if it's because of inflation, well that means even higher interest (discount) rates.

There had been a lot of cash on the sidelines since Brexit. And when the market voted Trump's election was pro-growth, it came piling in and chasing returns. This is pure momentum right now, and it HAS to snap-back at some point, probably a full correction (-10%) at minimum. Fixed income has been beaten down a bit, and despite the rate environment it may not be a bad play to increase bond funds in a defensive move at this point (but wait until the next fed rate increase).

And then there is perhaps the best indicator of all that it's time to pull out - CC is pumping money into the market and riding.
Feb 16, 2017 12:51am
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Feb 16, 2017 10:15 AM
Before the crash in '09 there were about 8,000 public companies available to invest in, today there are about 3,400. Simple supply/demand says that more 'investable' dollars chasing far fewer companies is going to result in higher valuations. We basically spent 10 years just getting back to where we were, so it could be looked at that we are now moving up from a base that was established long ago. A lot of investors are excited about the opportunities coming if we can get tax reform, massive regulatory rollbacks, repatriation, energy development, and infrastructure improvements. If the market P/E is at 26x, I would say it is indication that the market expects economic growth and profit growth; the market is generally 6 months ahead of the economy.

Obviously, it is never a straight line that goes up forever; there will be pullbacks. But, if we truly start to get our house in order and also unleash investment, innovation, and real growth; this could roll on for a while and really enhance household wealth.
Feb 16, 2017 10:15am
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Feb 16, 2017 11:13 AM
Spock;1837448 wrote:I am making money hand over fist in the market. Thank Donald. News media can't fake that
Then you must have loved Obama because the stock market went up 300% from when Obama took office to when he left.

I made a ton of money off the Obama Presidency. I exited a majority of a my positions last month because I think we've peaked and people smarter than me are expecting a flat 2017 AT BEST case scenario and likely a trend towards recession.

I'll be buying once the market bottoms out again.
Feb 16, 2017 11:13am