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                                                                superman
                                                                            
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                                Feb 6, 2017 6:18am
                            
                        No, lies are what the MSM have been doing since Trump took office. TDSisadore;1835626 wrote:Hail Trump! Misspoke, she created a massacre with no basis in fact to use alternative facts to defend their immigration ban.
                                        
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                                                                isadore
                                                                            
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                                Feb 6, 2017 7:36am
                            
                        Hail Trump! Gosh the Trump people do not lie, they just give innumerable alternative facts on the major and petty issues.superman;1835630 wrote:No, lies are what the MSM have been doing since Trump took office. TDS
HitsRus
                                                                            
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                                Feb 6, 2017 8:12am
                            
                        
                                [video]https://www.prageru.com/courses/political-science/why-i-left-left[/video]
Truth. The real fascists.
                        Truth. The real fascists.
Azubuike24
                                                                            
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                                Feb 6, 2017 9:13am
                            
                        
                                The Berkeley thing was a joke.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                QuakerOats
                                                                            
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                                Feb 6, 2017 9:31am
                            
                        HitsRus;1835634 wrote:[video]https://www.prageru.com/courses/political-science/why-i-left-left[/video]
Truth. The real fascists.
Well done; thx.
Devils Advocate
                                                                            
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                                Feb 6, 2017 10:20am
                            
                        No thanks. If my sexual preference is to maintained, I would prefer a a nice trist with a consentual adult. Versus an unwelcome advance by a homosexual cum guzzling trump lizard.superman;1835629 wrote:Fuck you.
I mean..... Christ, you are such an idiot, you actually make it easy to agree with isadore.
sleeper
                                                                            
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                                Feb 6, 2017 10:47am
                            
                        
                                http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-negative-polls-fake-news-twitter-cnn-abc-nbc-a7564951.html
Our President says any negative polls about him are 'fake news'
You simply can't make this up!
                        Our President says any negative polls about him are 'fake news'
You simply can't make this up!
                                        
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                                                                rocketalum
                                                                            
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                                Feb 6, 2017 11:06am
                            
                        
                                I continue to be totally confused about Trump's stance on Russia. Is it total ineptitude or is there really something more going on in that relationship?
O'Reily tossed him a softball and he ends up equating US extra judicial killings (which are bad) to murder of political dissenters and rivals (really really bad). I kind of get his sentiment but the delivery was just moronic. It made it so easy to run a headline saying "Trump thinks US just as bad as Russia". Again it was a softball. Here's a simple answer and I don't consider myself some great PR or Policy wiz. "Of course I do not condone or agree with the actions Russia has taken against political dissenters or their aggressive stance toward former states. It will be the goal of this administration to continue to pressure the Russian government in these areas. I do believe that if we can find a way to reach common ground with Russia in regards to the danger Islamic Terrorism poses to the entire world and ally in the fight against ISIS that we are all the better for it."
                        O'Reily tossed him a softball and he ends up equating US extra judicial killings (which are bad) to murder of political dissenters and rivals (really really bad). I kind of get his sentiment but the delivery was just moronic. It made it so easy to run a headline saying "Trump thinks US just as bad as Russia". Again it was a softball. Here's a simple answer and I don't consider myself some great PR or Policy wiz. "Of course I do not condone or agree with the actions Russia has taken against political dissenters or their aggressive stance toward former states. It will be the goal of this administration to continue to pressure the Russian government in these areas. I do believe that if we can find a way to reach common ground with Russia in regards to the danger Islamic Terrorism poses to the entire world and ally in the fight against ISIS that we are all the better for it."
                                        
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                                                                QuakerOats
                                                                            
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                                Feb 6, 2017 11:14am
                            
                        sleeper;1835653 wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-negative-polls-fake-news-twitter-cnn-abc-nbc-a7564951.html
Our President says any negative polls about him are 'fake news'
You simply can't make this up!
I was polled incessantly, multiple times a day in many cases, about the presidential race. I have not been polled once regarding the temporary restrictions to make the country safer. You figure it out.
Good luck.
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                                Feb 6, 2017 11:17am
                            
                        The sad thing is that he's essentially preaching to the choir on that, since so many of his fans are completely swallowing the concept that the only accurate news is what comes directly from him or his mouthpieces, while everything else is a lie.sleeper;1835653 wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-negative-polls-fake-news-twitter-cnn-abc-nbc-a7564951.html
Our President says any negative polls about him are 'fake news'
You simply can't make this up!
                                        
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                                                                superman
                                                                            
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                                Feb 6, 2017 11:40am
                            
                        Hahaha.Devils Advocate;1835651 wrote:No thanks. If my sexual preference is to maintained, I would prefer a a nice trist with a consentual adult. Versus an unwelcome advance by a homosexual cum guzzling trump lizard.
I mean..... Christ, you are such an idiot, you actually make it easy to agree with isadore.
I don't even like Trump. I just like watching you little snowflake liberals melting down over everything he says and does.
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                                Feb 6, 2017 11:44am
                            
                        Good post. He explains things very well, certainly better than I can or others could.HitsRus;1835634 wrote:[video]https://www.prageru.com/courses/political-science/why-i-left-left[/video]
Truth. The real fascists.
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                                Feb 6, 2017 1:50pm
                            
                        
                                I thought Devils Advocate was dead...
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                QuakerOats
                                                                            
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                                Feb 6, 2017 2:00pm
                            
                        
                                Heretic gave him some narcan
                            
                        Azubuike24
                                                                            
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                                Feb 6, 2017 2:17pm
                            
                        
                                Is he wrong that the US is as bad as Russia in many ways?  With the influential like George Soros behind a lot of what he's referring to, it's just not as blatant and clear as what he may be referring to about Russia.
                            
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                                Feb 6, 2017 4:16pm
                            
                        
                                The Russian state ran media and our liberal media are basically the same thing.
                            
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                                Feb 6, 2017 4:42pm
                            
                        
                                https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-06/goldman-sachs-says-trump-rally-curbed-as-economy-lags-enthusiasm
Trump 'rally' is over. Also my favorite on the immigration ban:
                        This exuberance is probably peaking, writes Charles Himmelberg, Goldman Sachs Group Inc.’s chief credit strategist, who cites several signs of cooling sentiment:
The Conference Board’s measure of consumer expectations for the U.S. economy over the next six months fell to 99.8 in January from 106.4 the prior month, registering its steepest decline in more than a year.
Retail investors’ preference for stocks over bonds after the election has almost fully reversed, according to Himmelberg, with the four-week trend for mutual-fund flows into U.S. bond funds hitting a six-month high.
The post-election outperformance of Goldman’s "cyclicals versus defensive" basket of stocks has ceased; it now trails the S&P 500 index’s advance since the election.
The yield on 10-year Treasury Inflation Protected Securities jumped nearly 60 basis points in the five weeks following Nov. 8, but has since pared nearly half of that move.
Trump 'rally' is over. Also my favorite on the immigration ban:
We have elected the enemy.Jan Hatzius, Goldman’s chief economist, noted separately that immigration restrictions could serve as a meaningful offset to any boost to productive capacity linked to infrastructure spending, tax reform and deregulation that could be achieved over the long haul. Net migration contributes up to one quarter of the U.S. economy’s 1.75 percent potential growth rate, he estimates.
                                        
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                                Feb 6, 2017 5:00pm
                            
                        
                                Shows you what he knows ..."1.75% potential growth rate" .............. he has lived under obama's marxism far too long.  Good thing Donald is removing the shackles.
                            
                        sleeper
                                                                            
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                                Feb 6, 2017 5:03pm
                            
                        Obama averaged 1.9% GDP growth in his 8 years.QuakerOats;1835729 wrote:Shows you what he knows ..."1.75% potential growth rate" .............. he has lived under obama's marxism far too long. Good thing Donald is removing the shackles.
Trump peaked at 1.75% and Goldman Sachs is estimating him at 1.5% due to his anti-capitalism immigration policies.
Facts don't care about your feelings.
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                                Feb 6, 2017 5:24pm
                            
                        A valid point if your IQ is under 70. So I can see why you'd say it.Spock;1835715 wrote:The Russian state ran media and our liberal media are basically the same thing.
                                        
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                                                                ppaw1999
                                                                            
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                                Feb 6, 2017 7:27pm
                            
                        
                                http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/who-will-be-hit-hardest-by-trumps-policies-trump-voters/ar-AAmFVGU?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartandhp
I know it is NBC news but there could be a thread of truth to this article.
                        I know it is NBC news but there could be a thread of truth to this article.
Spock
                                                                            
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                                Feb 6, 2017 7:52pm
                            
                        you actually believe thatsleeper;1835732 wrote:Obama averaged 1.9% GDP growth in his 8 years.
Trump peaked at 1.75% and Goldman Sachs is estimating him at 1.5% due to his anti-capitalism immigration policies.
Facts don't care about your feelings.
                                        
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                                                                friendfromlowry
                                                                            
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                                Feb 6, 2017 8:26pm
                            
                        superman;1835664 wrote:Hahaha.
I don't even like Trump. I just like watching you little snowflake liberals melting down over everything he says and does.
Most everyone on this thread is melting down.
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                                Feb 6, 2017 9:10pm
                            
                        He'll average 3-3.5% over the course of his term. By the the latter part of 2019, 4-5% is likely.sleeper;1835732 wrote:Obama averaged 1.9% GDP growth in his 8 years.
Trump peaked at 1.75% and Goldman Sachs is estimating him at 1.5% due to his anti-capitalism immigration policies.
Facts don't care about your feelings.
                                        
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                                                                QuakerOats
                                                                            
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                                Feb 7, 2017 9:38am
                            
                        fish82;1835771 wrote:He'll average 3-3.5% over the course of his term. By the the latter part of 2019, 4-5% is likely.
Exactly.