Disgusted with Trump administration - Part I

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superman
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Feb 2, 2017 6:07pm
I had to show id and submit to a background check to buy a handgun.
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Feb 2, 2017 6:12pm
superman;1835486 wrote:I had to show id and submit to a background check to buy a handgun.
Not to a private seller. "there are fewer barriers to buying a gun privately than there are to voting. The private gun sale requires no wait, no identification, and no easily enforceable disqualifications."
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superman
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Feb 2, 2017 6:16pm
Commander of Awesome;1835487 wrote:Not to a private seller. "there are fewer barriers to buying a gun privately than there are to voting. The private gun sale requires no wait, no identification, and no easily enforceable disqualifications."
Apples to oranges.

When you are talking about a private seller.
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Feb 2, 2017 6:25pm
superman;1835489 wrote:Apples to oranges.

When you are talking about a private seller.
From what I've gathered (finding a recent study or exact number is tricky for obvious reasons. However I do think it's safe to assume some percentage higher than 30% is a conservative estimate), roughly 40% of firearms sold or obtained (transfer/gift) in the united states far under this, IE NO BACKGROUND check. You think that is ok?
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Feb 2, 2017 6:31pm
Commander of Awesome;1835490 wrote:From what I've gathered, roughly 40% of firearms sold or obtained (transfer/gift) in the united states far under this, IE NO BACKGROUND check. You think that is ok?
I think there is no way to stop it.

Also, shockingly, there is some fake news here.

The ruling actually just removed a flagging method that was opposed by mental health providers.
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Feb 2, 2017 6:40pm
superman;1835492 wrote:I think there is no way to stop it.

Also, shockingly, there is some fake news here.

The ruling actually just removed a flagging method that was opposed by mental health providers.
Damn really? Got a link?
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superman
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Feb 2, 2017 6:48pm
Commander of Awesome;1835495 wrote:Damn really? Got a link?
I should have said supposedly at this point. Details are murky. I'll post a link when I see a legit one.
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Feb 2, 2017 6:51pm
superman;1835498 wrote:I should have said supposedly at this point. Details are murky. I'll post a link when I see a legit one.
Solid, I'll be keeping an eye out as well. Curious to know more.
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Feb 3, 2017 7:42am
Commander of Awesome;1835421 wrote:Selective facts

Ignorance is bliss amirite?
Nope...youarewrong.

There is simply no statistical relevance of a sample of, say 1,000 people's opinions to say that represents 128,000,000 people.
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Feb 3, 2017 10:29am
fish82;1835467 wrote:"Love Trumping Hate" involves more arson and assault than I expected.


Post of the week; get a beer.
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Feb 3, 2017 10:35am
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRUMP_FINANCIAL_REGULATIONS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-02-03-07-31-13

And the loop is closed.

Russian bought the election and Trump profited.

Republican credibility lost. They are fascists.
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Feb 3, 2017 10:38am
Kellyanne Conway makes up the "Bowling Green Massacre" to justify Muslim ban.

You simply cannot make this stuff up! Republicans own it!
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Feb 3, 2017 10:50am
Commander of Awesome;1835495 wrote:Damn really? Got a link?
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/444582/no-gop-did-not-just-repeal-background-check-system-or-give-guns-mentally-ill

I do not believe that to be an unbiased link but it is interesting to note this was also backed by the aclu and many other groups who would not normally be involved in gun control arguments.
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Feb 3, 2017 11:38am
wkfan;1835521 wrote:Nope...youarewrong.

There is simply no statistical relevance of a sample of, say 1,000 people's opinions to say that represents 128,000,000 people.
Again, that is not correct. Look at a sample size calculator.

http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm

I did 300M ppl with a 95% and a confidence interval of 1 and survey size is 9k.

Most polling companies use 400 or 1000 people in their samples. There is a reason for this:
A sample size of 400 will give you a confidence interval of +/-5% 19 times out of 20 (95%)
A sample size of 1000 will give you a confidence interval of +/-3% 19 times out of 20 (95%)
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Feb 3, 2017 11:47am
Commander of Awesome;1835536 wrote:Again, that is not correct. Look at a sample size calculator.

http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm

I did 300M ppl with a 95% and a confidence interval of 1 and survey size is 9k.

Most polling companies use 400 or 1000 people in their samples. There is a reason for this:
A sample size of 400 will give you a confidence interval of +/-5% 19 times out of 20 (95%)
A sample size of 1000 will give you a confidence interval of +/-3% 19 times out of 20 (95%)
If its a truly random sample size then you are correct.
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Feb 3, 2017 11:55am
sleeper;1835532 wrote:Kellyanne Conway makes up the "Bowling Green Massacre" to justify Muslim ban.

You simply cannot make this stuff up! Republicans own it!
Found the Bowling Green Massacre

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Feb 3, 2017 12:02pm
Iliketurtles;1835538 wrote:Found the Bowling Green Massacre

Does...this mean J.T. Barrett won't be able to play next season because he's being waterboarded?
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Feb 3, 2017 12:15pm
Heretic;1835539 wrote:Does...this mean J.T. Barrett won't be able to play next season because he's being waterboarded?
It's always a possibility with this administration.
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Feb 3, 2017 12:35pm
isadore;1835299 wrote:Hail Trump
What will be his Reichstag fire?
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Feb 5, 2017 5:44pm
Heretic;1835539 wrote:Does...this mean J.T. Barrett won't be able to play next season because he's being waterboarded?
A boy can dream.
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Feb 5, 2017 8:32pm
Hail Trump
just another survivor of the Bowling Green Massacre in our new alternate fact universe.
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superman
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Feb 5, 2017 10:49pm
isadore;1835580 wrote:Hail Trump
just another survivor of the Bowling Green Massacre in our new alternate fact universe.
She misspoke and corrected herself you fucking retard.
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Feb 5, 2017 11:12pm
No, she got caught lying and couldn't come up with a cognizant explanation you trump guzzling cum
lizzard.
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isadore
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Feb 5, 2017 11:21pm
superman;1835623 wrote:She misspoke and corrected herself you fucking retard.
Hail Trump! Misspoke, she created a massacre with no basis in fact to use alternative facts to defend their immigration ban.
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superman
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Feb 6, 2017 6:17am
Devils Advocate;1835625 wrote:No, she got caught lying and couldn't come up with a cognizant explanation you trump guzzling cum
lizzard.
Fuck you.