HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Nov 8, 2016 12:20pm
The libertarian party is nearly as bad as the two major parties. I know a few "L''s that are just furious with party leadership, who chose "party over cause", and put up Gary Johnson/Weld, imperfect Libertarians at best. Worse, they did a terrible job representing Libertarianism, were unprepared for interviews, and let a golden opportunity to build the party go by their carelessness. Having double digit support as the debates came around, they didn't come close to 15% and watched as support drained away. Hell, even Jill Stein grew her paltry numbers. What once was 12%....and now you're hoping for 5%.Wolves of Babylon;1822611 wrote:My only hope is that the Libertarian Party gets to 5% and actually work on becoming a legitimate 3rd party. We have to put an end to this two party system.
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fish82
Posts: 4,111
Nov 8, 2016 12:29pm
I find it interesting that this was the year "blue-collar working families" magically morphed into "uneducated whites."
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 8, 2016 12:32pm
I'll give credit where credit is due. You did call this and everyone said you were wrong.Con_Alma;1822613 wrote:No doubt. It certainly did with the U of M head coach and AD that I said would be put into place.
Nice job!
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Nov 8, 2016 12:33pm
And apparently, people everywhere are taking selfies at the polling stations and also taking pics of their ballots to put on on Facebook.
gawd!
gawd!
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 8, 2016 12:35pm
What a time to be alive!CenterBHSFan;1822634 wrote:And apparently, people everywhere are taking selfies at the polling stations and also taking pics of their ballots to put on on Facebook.
gawd!
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Nov 8, 2016 12:36pm
including Trumps son lolCenterBHSFan;1822634 wrote:And apparently, people everywhere are taking selfies at the polling stations and also taking pics of their ballots to put on on Facebook.
gawd!
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Nov 8, 2016 12:42pm
and I thought it was just cool to vote early on a sunday afternoon.sleeper;1822635 wrote:What a time to be alive!
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Nov 8, 2016 12:51pm
Johnson for president, if for no other reason than to try to help a third party get into the mix, since the two main ones are led by dumbasses.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Nov 8, 2016 12:57pm
gosh a ruddies her election will demonstrate women have achieved true political efficacy, that is hardly a novelty.CenterBHSFan;1822520 wrote:I would, if the woman who has the honor was worth a damn. But in reality, it shouldn't matter if it is a woman or a man - voting for novelty is stupid.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 8, 2016 12:58pm
I voted today, and voted Hilldawg. I think Hillary wins but a small margin, and GOP gets house and senate. We accomplish almost nothing with total gridlock over the next two years, and in some places go backwards. America will be worse off for it come next presidential election, Hillary will be blamed and GOP wins 2020 Election.
My issue with Libertarianism t's a one-size-fits all approach. I have no problems with being Libertarianism on certain issues (same as being Socialist on certain issues) but to say "less govt" throughout ignores the nuance of policy. It's intellectually lazy.like_that;1822446 wrote: I voted for Gary Johnson. He isn't the best libertarian candidate, and he has come off as a wacko lately, but I like the libertarian platform and I refuse to be a partisan sheep and vote down the party line for either piece of shit candidate. In DC I voted for the libertarian ticket down the line for council positions. I voted "NO" to recommend statehood for DC.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Nov 8, 2016 1:03pm
gosh a ruddies, so true Sleeper, it makes me proud to be an American.sleeper;1822532 wrote:Exactly. This election is about making history, shattering glass ceilings, and voting for the First Female President. Thank you isadore, and others, for showing that in a world of sexism, women are still able to overcome adversity and lead this country at the highest level.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 8, 2016 1:09pm
Totally get this and agree. I just wish there were better 3rd party candidates than Gary Johnson and Jill Stein. Both come off as wack jobs IMO. Not sure I'd trust either to be a walmart greeter, let alone President. I hate Trump, but I think he's more competent than either of them.Heretic;1822642 wrote:Johnson for president, if for no other reason than to try to help a third party get into the mix, since the two main ones are led by dumbasses.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Nov 8, 2016 1:11pm
Someone whose last name is Trump being shown to be clueless? I AM SHOCKED!ZWICK 4 PREZ;1822636 wrote:including Trumps son lol
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jedbartlet02
Posts: 178
Nov 8, 2016 1:13pm
Trump's campaign has already filed their first lawsuit
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Nov 8, 2016 1:20pm
Whats wrong with that? Lol if my dad were a presidential candidate I would tooZWICK 4 PREZ;1822636 wrote:including Trumps son lol
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jedbartlet02
Posts: 178
Nov 8, 2016 1:20pm
http://www.slate.com/votecastr_election_day_turnout_tracker.html
Newest Update (estimation) have Hillary up 271,741 votes in Florida and almost 56,000 in Ohio
Newest Update (estimation) have Hillary up 271,741 votes in Florida and almost 56,000 in Ohio
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Nov 8, 2016 1:23pm
If your dad ran for president a movie would also be made about it called Black Sheep 2.Classyposter58;1822650 wrote:Whats wrong with that? Lol if my dad were a presidential candidate I would too
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jedbartlet02
Posts: 178
Nov 8, 2016 1:23pm
FWIW...
I was listening to the radio at lunch and heard Karl Rove say he's hearing the networks may call Florida when polls close
I was listening to the radio at lunch and heard Karl Rove say he's hearing the networks may call Florida when polls close
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Nov 8, 2016 1:24pm
jedbartlet02;1822651 wrote:http://www.slate.com/votecastr_election_day_turnout_tracker.html
Newest Update (estimation) have Hillary up 271,741 votes in Florida and almost 56,000 in Ohio
Thanks.
Now I can pay attention to something else tonite now that i Know Killary is elected.
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jedbartlet02
Posts: 178
Nov 8, 2016 1:24pm
Not saying it means anything...just putting the information out therethavoice;1822654 wrote:Thanks.
Now I can pay attention to something else tonite now that i Know Killary is elected.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 8, 2016 1:26pm
This is also an intellectually lazy argument against libertarianism. I blame the libertarian party though for doing a terrible job branding themselves and explaining their platform.Commander of Awesome;1822644 wrote:I voted today, and voted Hilldawg. I think Hillary wins but a small margin, and GOP gets house and senate. We accomplish almost nothing with total gridlock over the next two years, and in some places go backwards. America will be worse off for it come next presidential election, Hillary will be blamed and GOP wins 2020 Election.
My issue with Libertarianism t's a one-size-fits all approach. I have no problems with being Libertarianism on certain issues (same as being Socialist on certain issues) but to say "less govt" throughout ignores the nuance of policy. It's intellectually lazy.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 8, 2016 1:26pm
Not even close.Commander of Awesome;1822647 wrote:Totally get this and agree. I just wish there were better 3rd party candidates than Gary Johnson and Jill Stein. Both come off as wack jobs IMO. Not sure I'd trust either to be a walmart greeter, let alone President. I hate Trump, but I think he's more competent than either of them.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Nov 8, 2016 1:28pm
In Nevada? I expect more and I doubt he concedes.jedbartlet02;1822649 wrote:Trump's campaign has already filed their first lawsuit
I'm not a fan of this as we are a little unclear on the how the data is collected and how reliable this data actually is.jedbartlet02;1822651 wrote:http://www.slate.com/votecastr_election_day_turnout_tracker.html
Newest Update (estimation) have Hillary up 271,741 votes in Florida and almost 56,000 in Ohio
Rove has zero credibility anymore.jedbartlet02;1822653 wrote:FWIW...
I was listening to the radio at lunch and heard Karl Rove say he's hearing the networks may call Florida when polls close
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 8, 2016 1:29pm
Fair, any particular great leader/politician in the Libertarian Party to follow?like_that;1822656 wrote:This is also an intellectually lazy argument against libertarianism. I blame the libertarian party though for doing a terrible job branding themselves and explaining their platform.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Nov 8, 2016 1:32pm
Minor details such as how ballot selfies are banned in several states...such as New York, where the l'il dipshit did his.Classyposter58;1822650 wrote:Whats wrong with that? Lol if my dad were a presidential candidate I would too