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Nov 9, 2016 4:00 PM
FatHobbit;1823280 wrote:Here's some interesting numbers:

Obama beat McCain 69,498,516 to 59,948,323
Obama beat Romney 65,915,795 to 60,933,504
Trump beat Hillary 59,438,335 to 59,647,392

It looks like 10 million+ stayed home for this election.
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Nov 9, 2016 4:00pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:10 PM
The outrage and blaming of 3rd party voters has also made me chuckle all day long.

Zero mentioning of the DNC rigging and Hillary being one of the worst candidates of all time.
Nov 9, 2016 4:10pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:11 PM
You have a lot better chance to win the general when you win the primary rather than be handed it.

Racist, sexist, etc was all the DNC had on him and that was such a stretch it didn't matter to most. He has too many black friends to be a racist and pays too many women too well to be a sexist but you all bought the media and DNC's narrative hook line and sinker.


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Nov 9, 2016 4:11pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:15 PM
I'm not sure if you're referring to me, but I know better to take anything from the media with a grain of salt on both sides.

I have no problem admitting I was wrong. I thought way more would turn up to blindly vote for Hillary, because Trump. When I first saw the Ohio county maps showing Trump dominating the lower income , economically depressed areas (where I was born and raised) that traditionally were blue...I saw the writing on the wall.
Nov 9, 2016 4:15pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:19 PM
Automatik;1823294 wrote:I'm not sure if you're referring to me, but I know better to take anything from the media with a grain of salt on both sides.

I have no problem admitting I was wrong. I thought way more would turn up to blindly vote for Hillary, because Trump. When I first saw the Ohio county maps showing Trump dominating the lower income , economically depressed areas (where I was born and raised) that traditionally were blue...I saw the writing on the wall.
That seemed to happen in a lot of places where Dems have dominated in the past. CLinton didnt make her hay in those areas nearly as much as she needed to
Nov 9, 2016 4:19pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:24 PM
Automatik;1823292 wrote:The outrage and blaming of 3rd party voters has also made me chuckle all day long.

Zero mentioning of the DNC rigging and Hillary being one of the worst candidates of all time.
It's brings the lulz for me as well because most people who voted for Gary were never going to consider a vote for Hillary.

Also I read somewhere that if you gave all of Gary's votes to Hillary in Ohio, Trump would still win by 6.
Nov 9, 2016 4:24pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:26 PM
Apparently stock market actually went up today. So much for Armageddon

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Nov 9, 2016 4:26pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:28 PM
FatHobbit;1823280 wrote:Here's some interesting numbers:

Obama beat McCain 69,498,516 to 59,948,323
Obama beat Romney 65,915,795 to 60,933,504
Trump beat Hillary 59,438,335 to 59,647,392

It looks like 10 million+ stayed home for this election.
Clinton is ahead in the popular vote as CA votes are largely counted.
Clinton: 59.76M
Trump: 59.55M

So, it is like 2000, D wins the popular vote and loses the electoral map.

Clinton did better than expected in AZ, TX, GA, and was close in FL. But, she just got destroyed in PA and upper Midwest.
It wasn't a 3rd party vote, it was former Obama voters either not voting or flipping.
Nov 9, 2016 4:28pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:28 PM
like_that;1823296 wrote:It's brings the lulz for me as well because most people who voted for Gary were never going to consider a vote for Hillary.

Also I read somewhere that if you gave all of Gary's votes to Hillary in Ohio, Trump would still win by 6.
I think she would have won Florida though.
Nov 9, 2016 4:28pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:29 PM
Automatik;1823294 wrote:I'm not sure if you're referring to me, but I know better to take anything from the media with a grain of salt on both sides.

I have no problem admitting I was wrong. I thought way more would turn up to blindly vote for Hillary, because Trump. When I first saw the Ohio county maps showing Trump dominating the lower income , economically depressed areas (where I was born and raised) that traditionally were blue...I saw the writing on the wall.
thavoice;1823295 wrote:That seemed to happen in a lot of places where Dems have dominated in the past. CLinton didnt make her hay in those areas nearly as much as she needed to
The democrats have successfully flipped the traditionally blue areas to red. They own it.

The dems on my ballot (since Charlie Wilson lost his district) have been pushing away their constituents for years. The chickens finally came home to roost.
Goodbye Lou Gentile, Goodbye Ted Strickland and more locally, the dems are dropping like flies, too.
Nov 9, 2016 4:29pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:29 PM
Wolves of Babylon;1823297 wrote:Apparently stock market actually went up today. So much for Armageddon

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Yeah, it did.
Also, the stocks for defense companies, like Lockheed, Boeing, Raytheon, etc. all went up.
Nov 9, 2016 4:29pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:32 PM
Wolves of Babylon;1823297 wrote:Apparently stock market actually went up today. So much for Armageddon

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With all the gloom and doom about the market I was hearing last night I was expecting my 401k to drop 50% today.
Nov 9, 2016 4:32pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:33 PM
thavoice;1823295 wrote:That seemed to happen in a lot of places where Dems have dominated in the past. CLinton didnt make her hay in those areas nearly as much as she needed to
Pretty hard to do it when you literally tell them you are going to eliminate their coal mining job. Had she told just one more lie there, maybe she would have hung on.
Nov 9, 2016 4:33pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:34 PM
FatHobbit;1823302 wrote:With all the gloom and doom about the market I was hearing last night I was expecting my 401k to drop 50% today.
Futures were waaaay down going into the session. The last two days after a pres election the SP lost a decent amount. I think many are just realizing, hey, a businessman just won the presidency. If a businessman wont help small businesses then no one will!
Nov 9, 2016 4:34pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:34 PM
QuakerOats;1823304 wrote:Pretty hard to do it when you literally tell them you are going to eliminate their coal mining job. Had she told just one more lie there, maybe she would have hung on.
20 years ago, Bill Clinton carried West Virginia by 15 points. Last night, Hillary Clinton lost it by 42 points.
Nov 9, 2016 4:34pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:35 PM
QuakerOats;1823304 wrote:Pretty hard to do it when you literally tell them you are going to eliminate their coal mining job. Had she told just one more lie there, maybe she would have hung on.
not just there, butin many areas she didnt come close to holding onto the prvious numbers
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Nov 9, 2016 4:35pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:37 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1823298 wrote:Clinton is ahead in the popular vote as CA votes are largely counted.
Clinton: 59.76M
Trump: 59.55M

So, it is like 2000, D wins the popular vote and loses the electoral map.

Clinton did better than expected in AZ, TX, GA, and was close in FL. But, she just got destroyed in PA and upper Midwest.
It wasn't a 3rd party vote, it was former Obama voters either not voting or flipping.
Yeah what happened to all the Obama voters?
Nov 9, 2016 4:37pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:39 PM
It happens often, but when you look at the map at how many counties that Trump won compared to HC, it is just.....amazing.
Nov 9, 2016 4:39pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:42 PM
thavoice;1823310 wrote:It happens often, but when you look at the map at how many counties that Trump won compared to HC, it is just.....amazing.
True. I usually prefer the map that adjusts for population density. Those maps are always fascinating.
Nov 9, 2016 4:42pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:51 PM
thavoice;1823310 wrote:It happens often, but when you look at the map at how many counties that Trump won compared to HC, it is just.....amazing.
Embarrassing is the better word.

The education system is this country is in the gutter. Everyone should watch the movie Idiocracy. It's the worst movie of all time but my god does it get become more 'real' each year.
Nov 9, 2016 4:51pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:57 PM
sleeper;1823314 wrote:Embarrassing is the better word.

The education system is this country is in the gutter. Everyone should watch the movie Idiocracy. It's the worst movie of all time but my god does it get become more 'real' each year.
Sleeper wrong again. Idiocracy is no where close to the worst movie of all time. It's a pretty decent movie IMO.
Nov 9, 2016 4:57pm
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Nov 9, 2016 4:58 PM
sleeper;1823314 wrote:Embarrassing is the better word.

The education system is this country is in the gutter. Everyone should watch the movie Idiocracy. It's the worst movie of all time but my god does it get become more 'real' each year.
So you are saying those blue area's have a much better education system than the red? Those.....inner...city....poverty...stricken school districts that always end up blue are better education centers than the rest?
Nov 9, 2016 4:58pm
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Nov 9, 2016 5:01pm
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Nov 9, 2016 5:01 PM
thavoice;1823317 wrote:So you are saying those blue area's have a much better education system than the red? Those.....inner...city....poverty...stricken school districts that always end up blue are better education centers than the rest?
This isn't a blue or red issue. Cut the shit.

There are stupid people that voted for both candidates no doubt; but I'd bet my entire net worth that IQ and Donald Trump support are highly negatively correlated.
Nov 9, 2016 5:01pm
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Nov 9, 2016 5:02 PM
O-Trap;1823319 wrote:
It's a numbers game. There aren't enough smart people to win consistently.
Nov 9, 2016 5:02pm