like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 10, 2017 7:12am
I'm with Ironman, fuck that shit. I would be pissed to see my team lose like that.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Apr 10, 2017 11:27am
I think the big thing to take away is that OKC IS a garbage team that stat guys think would win about 19 games without Westbroook. Instead, they have 46 and are in the playoffs. That in itself makes this season amazing. Regardless of whether he stuffed his stats to get triple-doubles or not, his season is the only reason anyone is talking about OKC in terms other than "God, they suck!".Wolves of Babylon;1846681 wrote:Yea happens all the time. He is only the first player ever listed 6'3 or under to average 10 or more rebounds a game.
Plus its not like his team is garbage and won ten games.
I get that winning a title is more important but to shrug his season off as meaningless shows a lack of knowledge of how difficult it is what he did.
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Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Apr 10, 2017 11:42am
I get it that people are sick of the triple double chase. I get it that there have been times where he seems to be TRYING to get a triple double. However, what's the record now? 33-9 when Westbrook gets a triple double? That tells me it's fair to say that when he goes for a triple double, he's also going for wins at an extremely high rate.
If Westbrook was averaging 35/9/9, would his season be any less impressive? Not really. It's still one of the greatest seasons of all time and they are going to be more than a dozen over .500.
If Westbrook was averaging 35/9/9, would his season be any less impressive? Not really. It's still one of the greatest seasons of all time and they are going to be more than a dozen over .500.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 10, 2017 11:44am
Mostly just bitter that MVP won't go rightfully to the best player in the game and instead will go for a stat stuffer on a mediocre Western conference team.Azubuike24;1846759 wrote:I get it that people are sick of the triple double chase. I get it that there have been times where he seems to be TRYING to get a triple double. However, what's the record now? 33-9 when Westbrook gets a triple double? That tells me it's fair to say that when he goes for a triple double, he's also going for wins at an extremely high rate.
If Westbrook was averaging 35/9/9, would his season be any less impressive? Not really. It's still one of the greatest seasons of all time and they are going to be more than a dozen over .500.
I do think RW deserves the MVP award though because it is a historic season. Just bitter.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Apr 10, 2017 12:21pm
LeBron is the best player of the era and it's not really close. That doesn't mean he has the best season every year.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 12, 2017 2:28pm
MVP predictions?
I think it goes to Russell Westbrook but it should go to Lebron James or Kawhi Leonard.
I'm going:
#1) RW
#2) Lebron
#3) Kawhi
#4) Harden
I think it goes to Russell Westbrook but it should go to Lebron James or Kawhi Leonard.
I'm going:
#1) RW
#2) Lebron
#3) Kawhi
#4) Harden
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 12, 2017 2:50pm
I think they shit on Lebron.sleeper;1847359 wrote:MVP predictions?
I think it goes to Russell Westbrook but it should go to Lebron James or Kawhi Leonard.
I'm going:
#1) RW
#2) Lebron
#3) Kawhi
#4) Harden
#1) RW
#2) Harden
#3) Kawhi
#4) Lebron
I can see Lebron and Kawhi traded spots.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 12, 2017 2:59pm
I'll go
1. Harden
2. Leonard
3. RW
4. LBJ
If I had a vote:
1. Leonard
2. RW
3. LBJ
4. KAT/ Giannis Antetokounmpo
LBJ isn't MVP bc Cavs won 51 games, fucking pathetic.
1. Harden
2. Leonard
3. RW
4. LBJ
If I had a vote:
1. Leonard
2. RW
3. LBJ
4. KAT/ Giannis Antetokounmpo
LBJ isn't MVP bc Cavs won 51 games, fucking pathetic.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 12, 2017 3:01pm
Cavs also dealt with multiple injuries this year to their core players. How many injuries did RW or Harden's team have to deal with?Commander of Awesome;1847368 wrote:I'll go
1. Harden
2. Leonard
3. RW
4. LBJ
If I had a vote:
1. Leonard
2. RW
3. LBJ
4. KAT/ Giannis Antetokounmpo
LBJ isn't MVP bc Cavs won 51 games, fucking pathetic.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Apr 12, 2017 3:25pm
How I would vote: RW, LBJ, Leonard, Harden
How I think it will go: Harden, RW, LBJ, Leonard
How I think it will go: Harden, RW, LBJ, Leonard
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 12, 2017 3:49pm
RW
LBJ
Harden
Kawhi
I think they'll vote
RW
Harden
Kawhi
LBJ
LBJ
Harden
Kawhi
I think they'll vote
RW
Harden
Kawhi
LBJ
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 12, 2017 4:03pm
LBJ is three times the player either of those guys are, and barely played defense this yr. I dont give a rip about Harden, he's not even top 10 for me in MVP.sleeper;1847369 wrote:Cavs also dealt with multiple injuries this year to their core players. How many injuries did RW or Harden's team have to deal with?
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 12, 2017 4:16pm
Did LBJ have a career high in rebounds and assists this year? Shot 54%....maybe his 2nd best year
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 12, 2017 4:17pm
Russ should be the MVP. That roster around him is trash
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Apr 12, 2017 8:41pm
I'll bite...why is he not top 10? His defense?Commander of Awesome;1847381 wrote:LBJ is three times the player either of those guys are, and barely played defense this yr. I dont give a rip about Harden, he's not even top 10 for me in MVP.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Apr 12, 2017 11:02pm
Western Conference
#1 Golden State (67-15) vs #8 Portland (41-41)........Game 1 Sunday 3:30 ABC
#4 LA Clippers (51-31) vs #5 Utah (51-31)...............Game 1 Saturday 10:30 ESPN
#3 Houston (55-27) vs #6 Oklahoma City (47-35)......Game 1 Sunday 9:00 TNT
#2 San Antonio (61-21) vs #7 Memphis (43-39).........Game 1 Saturday 8:00 ESPN
Golden State, Portland,Clippers, Jazz and Spurs are still playing. I'll update when they are over.
Eastern Conference
#1 Boston (53-29) vs #8 Chicago (41-41)..........Game 1 Sunday 6:30 TNT
#4 Washington (49-33) vs #5 Atlanta (43-39).....Game 1 Sunday 1:00 TNT
#3 Toronto (51-31) vs #6 Milwaukee (42-40)......Game 1 Saturday 5:30 ESPN
#2 Cleveland (51-31) vs #7 Indiana (42-40)........Game 1 Saturday 3:30PM ABC
Miami went 31-11 after the All-Star break and missed the playoffs due to a tiebreaker with the Bulls
#1 Golden State (67-15) vs #8 Portland (41-41)........Game 1 Sunday 3:30 ABC
#4 LA Clippers (51-31) vs #5 Utah (51-31)...............Game 1 Saturday 10:30 ESPN
#3 Houston (55-27) vs #6 Oklahoma City (47-35)......Game 1 Sunday 9:00 TNT
#2 San Antonio (61-21) vs #7 Memphis (43-39).........Game 1 Saturday 8:00 ESPN
Golden State, Portland,Clippers, Jazz and Spurs are still playing. I'll update when they are over.
Eastern Conference
#1 Boston (53-29) vs #8 Chicago (41-41)..........Game 1 Sunday 6:30 TNT
#4 Washington (49-33) vs #5 Atlanta (43-39).....Game 1 Sunday 1:00 TNT
#3 Toronto (51-31) vs #6 Milwaukee (42-40)......Game 1 Saturday 5:30 ESPN
#2 Cleveland (51-31) vs #7 Indiana (42-40)........Game 1 Saturday 3:30PM ABC
Miami went 31-11 after the All-Star break and missed the playoffs due to a tiebreaker with the Bulls
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 13, 2017 1:10pm
Defense and the fact that his game is predicated on getting foul calls. Hate players that play that way.sportswizuhrd;1847435 wrote:I'll bite...why is he not top 10? His defense?
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Apr 13, 2017 8:10pm
Any other series besides Cavs you'll be paying close attention to? Thought it was interesting Lillard predicted Portland in six over GSW. Pretty sure GSW sweeps them. Houston and OKC will be good and so will Milwaukee and Toronto.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 13, 2017 9:17pm
Lol he did? I can see upsets in the following series:friendfromlowry;1847728 wrote:Any other series besides Cavs you'll be paying close attention to? Thought it was interesting Lillard predicted Portland in six over GSW. Pretty sure GSW sweeps them. Houston and OKC will be good and so will Milwaukee and Toronto.
Celts/Bulls
Raps/Bucks
Rockets/Thunder
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Apr 13, 2017 9:51pm
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19150213/damian-lillard-thinks-portland-trail-blazers-beat-golden-state-warriorslike_that;1847734 wrote:Lol he did? I can see upsets in the following series:
Celts/Bulls
Raps/Bucks
Rockets/Thunder
Eh, kind of.
The two-time All-Star was interviewed Tuesday by CSN Northwest, the local television partner of the Trail Blazers. He was asked whether the eighth-seeded Blazers could beat the best team in the NBA in six games or seven, and he playfully responded with six.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Apr 15, 2017 9:34pm
Buy or sell: Toronto is in serious trouble.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 15, 2017 10:05pm
Buy
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 16, 2017 1:13am
Based on what I said a few posts above, I buy obviously.friendfromlowry;1848040 wrote:Buy or sell: Toronto is in serious trouble.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Apr 16, 2017 6:48am
Also buy. I enjoy it because for some reason I was reading Raptors message boards a few weeks ago, and they were extremely confident in their chances to make it past the Cavs.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 16, 2017 8:55am
That's some random web browsingGOONx19;1848054 wrote:Also buy. I enjoy it because for some reason I was reading Raptors message boards a few weeks ago, and they were extremely confident in their chances to make it past the Cavs.