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friendfromlowry
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Mar 7, 2017 10:19pm
Larry Bird?sleeper;1840175 wrote:Dirk, greatest white player ever?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 7, 2017 10:30pm
Sleeper doesn't know who that is.friendfromlowry;1840182 wrote:Larry Bird?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 7, 2017 10:31pm
Larry Bird? Don't see his name on any top 25 scoring list.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Mar 7, 2017 10:34pm
Gonna pass on this debate. Everyone else have fun.
Ironman92
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Mar 7, 2017 10:36pm
Larry put up LeBron-ish numbers back in the days of shit players.sleeper;1840175 wrote:Dirk, greatest white player ever?
I'd go:
Bird
Dirk
Grant Hill
Kevin McHale
John Stockton
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 7, 2017 10:36pm
Russ goes 58/9 but lose to Portland
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Mar 7, 2017 10:44pm
Bird played like 7 seasons and then had major back issues.
He is the best white player ever.
He is the best white player ever.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 7, 2017 10:46pm
I got it, and lol'dIronman92;1840192 wrote:Larry put up LeBron-ish numbers back in the days of shit players.
I'd go:
Bird
Dirk
Grant Hill
Kevin McHale
John Stockton
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 7, 2017 10:51pm
Damn ankle injuries though. He was one of my favorites...and could play the defense.Commander of Awesome;1840197 wrote:I got it, and lol'd
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 7, 2017 10:59pm
He had 10 full seasons but insane back issuesLaley23;1840195 wrote:Bird played like 7 seasons and then had major back issues.
He is the best white player ever.
Had a 30/10/6 season
Led NBA 4 straight years in VORP
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 7, 2017 11:09pm
That's Russ for yaIronman92;1840193 wrote:Russ goes 58/9 but lose to Portland
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Mar 7, 2017 11:14pm
Yeah, was still amazing...but only 6 truly healthy years, and completely messed up at the end.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 8, 2017 7:28am
Dirk is pretty amazing. He gets overshadowed by the other stars, but he deserves all the praise he gets. When he elevated his game to lead the mavs to a title that solidified him as a top 50 player of all time.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Mar 8, 2017 8:03am
Dirk is truly one of the greatest players no one talks about. I mean the guy even changed the league with his one leg jumper. I've always been a huge fan of dirk. It will suck to see him go soonlike_that;1840213 wrote:Dirk is pretty amazing. He gets overshadowed by the other stars, but he deserves all the praise he gets. When he elevated his game to lead the mavs to a title that solidified him as a top 50 player of all time.
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Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 8, 2017 8:20am
I remember watching him in the 1998 Nike Hoops Summit when he was relatively unknown. It was on the old Sports Channel Ohio and you could just tell there was something really unique in his game. Heck of a career.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 8, 2017 8:26am
I'd pass too when the stats don't line up with my fantasy world.friendfromlowry;1840191 wrote:Gonna pass on this debate. Everyone else have fun.
I guess we should only use nostalgia and feelz to rate players.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 8, 2017 8:27am
Derrick Rose had a pretty good season. GOAT PG?Laley23;1840195 wrote:Bird played like 7 seasons and then had major back issues.
He is the best white player ever.
I don't even have Larry Bird on my top 20 list. Dirk is firmly a top 10 all time player.
He is the best white player ever in reality.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 8, 2017 9:14am
Larry Bird kind of has the Sandy Koufax treatment. If you take his top 5-6 seasons and look at the numbers, they are up there with anyone, ever. There was a 5-year stretch where he was averaging like 27/10/7 and was clearly a top 3 player in the NBA.
All-time, it's not fair to just project those numbers over 15 years instead of the 7-8 he stayed injury free. At some point, you have to credit a guy who has the longevity. It's not easy to have a 20 year career.
All-time, it's not fair to just project those numbers over 15 years instead of the 7-8 he stayed injury free. At some point, you have to credit a guy who has the longevity. It's not easy to have a 20 year career.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 8, 2017 9:17am
How do you compare Dirk to Tim Duncan?
Crimson streak
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Mar 8, 2017 9:22am
That's a tough one. Personally I would give the slight edge to dirk.Azubuike24;1840236 wrote:How do you compare Dirk to Tim Duncan?
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SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 8, 2017 9:36am
Duncan level 1 star. Dirk level 2.Azubuike24;1840236 wrote:How do you compare Dirk to Tim Duncan?
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Mar 8, 2017 9:43am
ThisLaley23;1840195 wrote:Bird played like 7 seasons and then had major back issues.
He is the best white player ever.
lol, and nosleeper;1840221 wrote:
I don't even have Larry Bird on my top 20 list. Dirk is firmly a top 10 all time player.
He is the best white player ever in reality.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 8, 2017 9:43am
Or maybe 1 and 1ASportsAndLady;1840246 wrote:Duncan level 1 star. Dirk level 2.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 8, 2017 9:56am
I'd take Duncan over Dirk but its close. Duncan could have been a strong beneficiary of having a great all time coach like Popovich whereas Dirk has had complete dogshit coaches and teammates(barring a few years).Azubuike24;1840236 wrote:How do you compare Dirk to Tim Duncan?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 8, 2017 10:58am
Okay care to use facts, evidence, logic or reason in justifying your opinion? Or is this one of those "I'm right and I don't have to prove anything" type deals that people on here love.vball10set;1840248 wrote:This
lol, and no
I wouldn't want to debate me either. You can't win with that shit.