Laley23
Posts: 29,506
May 30, 2017 11:48am
I was fine through Memorial Day. Now I'm antsy. Should start tonight, imoBR1986FB;1855516 wrote:I'm actually fine with a little down time before it starts.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 30, 2017 12:26pm
This is the best they can come up with? Not very bright out there in the Bay...
http://cavaliersnation.com/2017/05/30/golden-state-warriors-troll-cleveland-cavaliers-with-petty-new-shirts/
http://cavaliersnation.com/2017/05/30/golden-state-warriors-troll-cleveland-cavaliers-with-petty-new-shirts/
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
May 30, 2017 12:38pm
Damn I just want this series to start
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O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
May 30, 2017 1:19pm
I like the idea that both teams get enough rest that no team can claim to still be tired from the previous series. It sucks having to wait so long, but I'm glad everyone is going to be well-rested.Laley23;1855527 wrote:I was fine through Memorial Day. Now I'm antsy. Should start tonight, imo
Yeah, I'm not insulted in any way. In keeping with the theme:BR1986FB;1855529 wrote:This is the best they can come up with? Not very bright out there in the Bay...
http://cavaliersnation.com/2017/05/30/golden-state-warriors-troll-cleveland-cavaliers-with-petty-new-shirts/
Our shirts > Their shirts
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
May 30, 2017 3:38pm
I also am very antsy for this to start....but lets be honest, we have all been waiting 11 months for this rubber match to begin
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 30, 2017 4:49pm
Damn pretty much everyone on SI has the warriors winning in 5 and some even 4.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
May 30, 2017 5:06pm
I like Warriors in 6. Cleveland is a damn good team, they went 12-1 in their conference for Christ sakes. But last year was such an even series and Golden State added the 3rd best player in basketball on their team, no modern team matches uplike_that;1855562 wrote:Damn pretty much everyone on SI has the warriors winning in 5 and some even 4.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
May 30, 2017 5:09pm
If Classy is taking the Warriors, put money on the Cavs.Classyposter58;1855563 wrote:I like Warriors in 6. Cleveland is a damn good team, they went 12-1 in their conference for Christ sakes. But last year was such an even series and Golden State added the 3rd best player in basketball on their team, no modern team matches up
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 30, 2017 5:26pm
If there are two sure bets that will win you money they areernest_t_bass;1855564 wrote:If Classy is taking the Warriors, put money on the Cavs.
1. Classy shows up to OC when things aren't going well for the Cavs vs the Warriors.
2. Classy shows up to OC when the tigers are doing well.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
May 30, 2017 5:34pm
Warriors added Durant but lost a lot of their bench, which was a deciding factor vs most teams.
Cavs returned everyone and added much better role players and their shooters are deadly. This gives them a chance.
If it were 5 v 5, Warriors have too much, but it's not. The bench will be a factor and the Cavs can win there. If they can outscore the Warriors by 8-12 when it's primarily 2nd unit vs 2nd unit I like their chances in 6 or 7. If not, Warriors probably win in 5, but all close games. Both teams score too well to be blown out, imo.
Cavs returned everyone and added much better role players and their shooters are deadly. This gives them a chance.
If it were 5 v 5, Warriors have too much, but it's not. The bench will be a factor and the Cavs can win there. If they can outscore the Warriors by 8-12 when it's primarily 2nd unit vs 2nd unit I like their chances in 6 or 7. If not, Warriors probably win in 5, but all close games. Both teams score too well to be blown out, imo.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 30, 2017 5:37pm
Blown out in a series or game, because I could easily see most games being blow outs just like last series (sans game 7)?Laley23;1855567 wrote:Warriors added Durant but lost a lot of their bench, which was a deciding factor vs most teams.
Cavs returned everyone and added much better role players and their shooters are deadly. This gives them a chance.
If it were 5 v 5, Warriors have too much, but it's not. The bench will be a factor and the Cavs can win there. If they can outscore the Warriors by 8-12 when it's primarily 2nd unit vs 2nd unit I like their chances in 6 or 7. If not, Warriors probably win in 5, but all close games. Both teams score too well to be blown out, imo.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 30, 2017 5:52pm
To add to that, Kerr being out hurts GS.Laley23;1855567 wrote:Warriors added Durant but lost a lot of their bench, which was a deciding factor vs most teams.
Cavs returned everyone and added much better role players and their shooters are deadly. This gives them a chance.
If it were 5 v 5, Warriors have too much, but it's not. The bench will be a factor and the Cavs can win there. If they can outscore the Warriors by 8-12 when it's primarily 2nd unit vs 2nd unit I like their chances in 6 or 7. If not, Warriors probably win in 5, but all close games. Both teams score too well to be blown out, imo.
Don't forget, when it matters most, mike brown is a really bad coach.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
May 30, 2017 6:12pm
I agree with everything except the Warriors having too much if it were 5 on 5 only.Laley23;1855567 wrote:Warriors added Durant but lost a lot of their bench, which was a deciding factor vs most teams.
Cavs returned everyone and added much better role players and their shooters are deadly. This gives them a chance.
If it were 5 v 5, Warriors have too much, but it's not. The bench will be a factor and the Cavs can win there. If they can outscore the Warriors by 8-12 when it's primarily 2nd unit vs 2nd unit I like their chances in 6 or 7. If not, Warriors probably win in 5, but all close games. Both teams score too well to be blown out, imo.
Kyrie > Steph
J.R. < Klay
LBJ > KD
KLove = Braymond
Tristan > ZsaZsa
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
May 30, 2017 8:04pm
I meant a game. I think they are all close.like_that;1855568 wrote:Blown out in a series or game, because I could easily see most games being blow outs just like last series (sans game 7)?
Of course, either team can score so well, that blowouts could happen if one team is insanely hot. I guess you're right in that aspect.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
May 30, 2017 8:49pm
The bench, while still with a couple key guys, is much thinner, though.Classyposter58;1855563 wrote:I like Warriors in 6. Cleveland is a damn good team, they went 12-1 in their conference for Christ sakes. But last year was such an even series and Golden State added the 3rd best player in basketball on their team, no modern team matches up
Also, there's going to be a diminishing return when the greatest offensive team in a LONG time gets another great scorer. The team will only take so many shots, so adding a scorer just redistributes the percentages of who is shooting how many of them.
KD does obviously add height, though, which they were sorely lacking last year, when Bogut went out, and someone who can take over a game if Curry and Thompson run cold, which does happen from time to time.
Not saying KD isn't an improvement. He is. But I don't think the improvement is as relevant as the "3rd best player in basketball" title might otherwise indicate.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
May 30, 2017 8:52pm
ESPN's Zack Lowe did a good piece on my favorite player not named LeBron James:
[h=1]Tristan Thompson is an enormous 'problem' for Cavs opponents[/h]
[h=1]Tristan Thompson is an enormous 'problem' for Cavs opponents[/h]
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
May 30, 2017 9:32pm
I predict a Cavs win...and it will be at home. So game 4 or 6.
Saw an interesting debate the other day....if you were doing a 2-Team draft of the Cavs-Warriors starters, what would it look like?
1)LBJ 2)KD
3)Steph 4)KI
5)Draymond 6)Love
7)Klay 8)TT
9)JR 10)Zaza
Saw an interesting debate the other day....if you were doing a 2-Team draft of the Cavs-Warriors starters, what would it look like?
1)LBJ 2)KD
3)Steph 4)KI
5)Draymond 6)Love
7)Klay 8)TT
9)JR 10)Zaza
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superman
Posts: 3,582
May 30, 2017 9:42pm
I would never take Steph over KI.Benny The Jet;1855659 wrote:I predict a Cavs win...and it will be at home. So game 4 or 6.
Saw an interesting debate the other day....if you were doing a 2-Team draft of the Cavs-Warriors starters, what would it look like?
1)LBJ 2)KD
3)Steph 4)KI
5)Draymond 6)Love
7)Klay 8)TT
9)JR 10)Zaza
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
May 31, 2017 2:30am
I would.superman;1855660 wrote:I would never take Steph over KI.
I heard a similar pair-up on Mike & Mike, but loosely by position. Here was how they came down:
LBJ > KD
Kyrie = Steph
JR < Klay
Love < Draymond
Tris > Zaza
The biggest difference was between Klay and JR.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
May 31, 2017 6:13am
Draymond is definitely a greater douche than Love. Or anyone, for that matter. I'd take Love over Draymond.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 31, 2017 7:40am
Draymond is definitely a D-Bag but if he was on your team, he'd be your D-Bag, and you'd love him. He's an a-hole but a fierce competitor.ernest_t_bass;1855673 wrote:Draymond is definitely a greater douche than Love. Or anyone, for that matter. I'd take Love over Draymond.
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Sonofanump
May 31, 2017 7:42am
If we are only picking those 10 players, TT's WAR has to be so much higher than Zaza that I'd expect him to be taken before 8th. It is hard to look at some other metric beyond scoring, and that is what TT brings.Benny The Jet;1855659 wrote:I predict a Cavs win...and it will be at home. So game 4 or 6.
Saw an interesting debate the other day....if you were doing a 2-Team draft of the Cavs-Warriors starters, what would it look like?
1)LBJ 2)KD
3)Steph 4)KI
5)Draymond 6)Love
7)Klay 8)TT
9)JR 10)Zaza
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 31, 2017 7:49am
I think an X Factor/Unsung hero in this series could be Korver.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
May 31, 2017 7:51am
I see him averaging no fewer than 10 threes per game.BR1986FB;1855682 wrote:I think an X Factor/Unsung hero in this series could be Korver.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
May 31, 2017 8:28am
It's going to be a series of matchups. Does GS try to hide Steph on korver? If they do I would run korver off a bunch of screens and make Steph work and run on defenseBR1986FB;1855682 wrote:I think an X Factor/Unsung hero in this series could be Korver.
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