like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 24, 2017 11:07am
Well the difference is Golden State will hit them, but not be saved by the board or rim 10x a game.BR1986FB;1854839 wrote:Nice to see them come back and pull this out. Biggest bright spot was Kyrie stepping up as a leader. This team better tighten up their defense quickly if they even have a shot in the Finals. Golden State will hit those open 3's that Boston is clanging.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 24, 2017 11:16am
Good to see Kyrie back to savage mode. The last play where he drove and faked the behind the back pass was absolutely beautiful basketball.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 24, 2017 11:17am
I was in the same boat. The trade was the correct one and I ended up being wrong. Love has really earned his contract as well.I have to confess something, too. When the Cavs traded Wiggins for Love, I was not a fan of the trade. Kyrie was not a good defender, and I didn't like the idea of two starters being such defensive liabilities.
However, Love put on a defensive rebounding clinic tonight. Combine that with his going Gary Payton on Curry in the closing minutes of last year's Finals Game 7 and putting on the size this last offseason, I am officially glad that we made the trade.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 24, 2017 11:52am
That was filthy.sleeper;1854894 wrote:Good to see Kyrie back to savage mode. The last play where he drove and faked the behind the back pass was absolutely beautiful basketball.
People and the media tend to forget how good Kyrie is due to the LeBron slurping. I get it, but I wish he would do that more often.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 24, 2017 12:00pm
When Kyrie went down in the 3rd, I thought our season was over.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
May 24, 2017 12:48pm
And it was a definite (awesome) middle-finger/nail in coffin.sleeper;1854894 wrote:Good to see Kyrie back to savage mode. The last play where he drove and faked the behind the back pass was absolutely beautiful basketball.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
May 24, 2017 12:49pm
Big if truesleeper;1854896 wrote:I was in the same boat. The trade was the correct one and I ended up being wrong. Love has really earned his contract as well.
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Sonofanump
May 24, 2017 12:57pm
[INDENT]Irving’s handle is probably better than anyone else in the NBA...
[/INDENT]Of course it is. It’s much easier to dribble on a flat surface.
-Deadspin
[/INDENT]Of course it is. It’s much easier to dribble on a flat surface.
-Deadspin
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 24, 2017 1:54pm
I wasn't a fan of the trade either, but winning the title put an end to that. You have to appreciate the Cavs went all in and got it done. We will always have that 2016 title, and I would take that any day of the week waiting for a player with potential to blossom (if he ever does). This season was Love's best season imo. I know he was out 5-6 weeks, but the fact Horford received 1 All-NBA vote and Love didn't is a complete joke.sleeper;1854896 wrote:I was in the same boat. The trade was the correct one and I ended up being wrong. Love has really earned his contract as well.
Wiggins is still very young and can become very good, but by the time that happens Lebron's window might be closed.
Same and it actually is frustrating. There is no reason Kyrie and Love can't win games on their own in the regular season against garbage teams when Lebron sits out.Automatik;1854906 wrote:That was filthy.
People and the media tend to forget how good Kyrie is due to the LeBron slurping. I get it, but I wish he would do that more often.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 24, 2017 2:30pm
Jefferson said that Lebron was sick in game 3. Makes sense, he seemed completely out of it Sunday night.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 24, 2017 2:37pm
This doesn't surprise me. Glad he is back healthy.SportsAndLady;1854952 wrote:Jefferson said that Lebron was sick in game 3. Makes sense, he seemed completely out of it Sunday night.
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Sonofanump
May 24, 2017 3:17pm
This can not be overlooked, great point.like_that;1854944 wrote:Wiggins is still very young and can become very good, but by the time that happens Lebron's window might be closed.
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Sonofanump
May 24, 2017 3:18pm
He seemed to be sweating and dragging during pregame warmups, now it makes sense indeed.SportsAndLady;1854952 wrote:Jefferson said that Lebron was sick in game 3. Makes sense, he seemed completely out of it Sunday night.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
May 24, 2017 4:19pm
Yep. I'm happy to eat my words on that trade today.like_that;1854944 wrote:I wasn't a fan of the trade either, but winning the title put an end to that. You have to appreciate the Cavs went all in and got it done. We will always have that 2016 title, and I would take that any day of the week waiting for a player with potential to blossom (if he ever does). This season was Love's best season imo. I know he was out 5-6 weeks, but the fact Horford received 1 All-NBA vote and Love didn't is a complete joke.
Wiggins is still very young and can become very good, but by the time that happens Lebron's window might be closed.
My big hangup was that while Wiggins was young and not as good an offensive tool, he was already a better defender.
I've been looking at something lately. It seems like they built this team to do their best to outscore opponents as opposed to focusing on being a lockdown on opponents.
While outscoring is a risky play against most teams, it does seem like it's well-suited to going up against the Warriors. They're going to get their points almost every game, regardless of how good the defense is. You're probably better suited to trying to outscore them than you are trying to lock them down and win a low-scoring game with them.
It makes a TON of sense. I even noticed it watching pregame on television. He just looked like he was dragging.SportsAndLady;1854952 wrote:Jefferson said that Lebron was sick in game 3. Makes sense, he seemed completely out of it Sunday night.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
May 24, 2017 7:54pm
I know the narrative was Wiggins is/should be a great defender coming out of college. That hasn't panned out, he's very average to below average on defense if you watch him.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 25, 2017 7:45am
It's the Warriors job to say stupid shit for bulletin board material. Shut your hole, Lue. Seems like a ridiculous statement.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19455225/tyronn-lue-cleveland-cavaliers-says-boston-celtics-tougher-defend-golden-state-warriors
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19455225/tyronn-lue-cleveland-cavaliers-says-boston-celtics-tougher-defend-golden-state-warriors
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
May 25, 2017 9:11am
He does have a point though.BR1986FB;1855018 wrote:It's the Warriors job to say stupid shit for bulletin board material. Shut your hole, Lue. Seems like a ridiculous statement.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19455225/tyronn-lue-cleveland-cavaliers-says-boston-celtics-tougher-defend-golden-state-warriors
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SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 25, 2017 9:43am
Just think he worded it weird. And the media heard "harder to defend than warriors" and ran with their hot take story.
He was just saying the Celtics run a more complex offense, schematically. They don't have as good as players, but their offense as a scheme is tougher to defend.
Warriors do run an offense but a lot of their plays are just Curry launching a 28 foot 3 pointer with 19 seconds on the shot clock. Of course, he makes a good amount of them so from that standpoint they are very difficult to defend. But in terms of X'a and O's basketball, the Celtics have a difficult offense to defend.
He was just saying the Celtics run a more complex offense, schematically. They don't have as good as players, but their offense as a scheme is tougher to defend.
Warriors do run an offense but a lot of their plays are just Curry launching a 28 foot 3 pointer with 19 seconds on the shot clock. Of course, he makes a good amount of them so from that standpoint they are very difficult to defend. But in terms of X'a and O's basketball, the Celtics have a difficult offense to defend.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 25, 2017 9:49am
Completely understood and point taken but I wish these guys would just keep their mouths shut sometimes. I don't think he meant it as a slight toward GS but of course ESPN will run with anything.SportsAndLady;1855032 wrote:Just think he worded it weird. And the media heard "harder to defend than warriors" and ran with their hot take story.
He was just saying the Celtics run a more complex offense, schematically. They don't have as good as players, but their offense as a scheme is tougher to defend.
Warriors do run an offense but a lot of their plays are just Curry launching a 28 foot 3 pointer with 19 seconds on the shot clock. Of course, he makes a good amount of them so from that standpoint they are very difficult to defend. But in terms of X'a and O's basketball, the Celtics have a difficult offense to defend.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
May 25, 2017 8:52pm
Lebron playing out his ass.
Sick move by Kyrie.
Sick move by Kyrie.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 25, 2017 8:54pm
Good start so far.
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
May 25, 2017 8:57pm
Do not let up. Finish these guys now!!
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 25, 2017 9:01pm
Yeah, please don't chuck garbage shots and let them back in.ironman02;1855166 wrote:Do not let up. Finish these guys now!!
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 25, 2017 9:19pm
Smart is such a flopping *****.
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
May 25, 2017 9:27pm
Freaking foul fest. This might not be over until midnight.