queencitybuckeye;1811062 wrote:Certainly the race pimps (Jackson, Sharpton, etc.) want nothing to do with the end of racism. Sadly, they and their ilk have convinced a number of dull white SJWs that there's merit to their nonsense.

Don't forget the white and black politicians who benefit $$$ from divide and conquer politics.

like_that;1811073 wrote:Don't forget the white and black politicians who benefit $$$ from divide and conquer politics.

Ahh the ol RNC plan back in 2010 for gerrymandering.

Commander of Awesome;1811076 wrote:Ahh the ol RNC plan back in 2010 for gerrymandering.

Let me know how black people have benefited from democrats running their towns the last 50 years. Seems to be working well in terms of raising them out of poverty [emoji106].

Furthermore let me know when black peoples and butt hurt SJWs want to have a real "discussion" and talk about how 70% of black households are fatherless.

like_that;1811081 wrote:Furthermore let me know when black peoples and butt hurt SJWs want to have a real "discussion" and talk about how 70% of black households are fatherless.

You using sleeper tactics now? Yeah, let's talk about it. What did you want to say?

Commander of Awesome;1811082 wrote:You using sleeper tactics now? Yeah, let's talk about it. What did you want to say?

Sleeper tactics? I am just bringing up the fact everybody wants to have a discussion and nothing comes out of it because it is one sided. Why isn't family structure important for black people?

like_that;1811083 wrote:Sleeper tactics? I am just bringing up the fact everybody wants to have a discussion and nothing comes out of it because it is one sided. Why isn't family structure important for black people?

Who says it isn't? Maybe they're fatherless bc they're unfairly incarcerated at a higher percentage than the rest of the population, even for similar crimes. How about their education system? If you're a minority you're more likely to go to a shitty school, in a poor neighborhood with shitty teachers.

"Among racial and ethnic groups, African Americans had the highest poverty rate, 27.4 percent, followed by Hispanics at 26.6 percent and whites at 9.9 percent. 45.8 percent of young black children (under age 6) live in poverty, compared to 14.5 percent of white children."

Maybe we should first start addressing the large economic divide inside of QQing about one family getting a million dollars bc some asshat police officer killed their kid.

Commander of Awesome;1811076 wrote:Ahh the ol RNC plan back in 2010 for gerrymandering.

Democrats do the same thing. Nice bias though!

Commander of Awesome;1811084 wrote:Who says it isn't? Maybe they're fatherless bc they're unfairly incarcerated at a higher percentage than the rest of the population, even for similar crimes. How about their education system? If you're a minority you're more likely to go to a shitty school, in a poor neighborhood with shitty teachers.

"Among racial and ethnic groups, African Americans had the highest poverty rate, 27.4 percent, followed by Hispanics at 26.6 percent and whites at 9.9 percent. 45.8 percent of young black children (under age 6) live in poverty, compared to 14.5 percent of white children."

Maybe we should first start addressing the large economic divide inside of QQing about one family getting a million dollars bc some asshat police officer killed their kid.

I'm still waiting for you to prove conclusively that this has to do with race and not culture.

70% of black homes being fatherless is embarrassing; blacks only graduating high school at a 69% is embarrassing; crime rates are higher because blacks commit crimes at a far greater clip than any other race(6% of the population commits 50% of the murders) which is embarrassing. Maybe stop having children you can't take care, graduate high school, stop committing crimes and maybe just stop voting D across the board. The definition of insanity...

When are black people going to grow up? White people and racism isn't the problem and telling black kids that the boogeyman of racism is going to destroy their dreams and that their life doesn't matter is EXTREMELY HARMFUL. Time for reality and personal responsibility but that's much harder than just being a victim.

like_that;1811079 wrote:Let me know how black people have benefited from democrats running their towns the last 50 years. Seems to be working well in terms of raising them out of poverty [emoji106].

See Flint. Run by Democrats into the ground for years and the moment they get national attention its the white Republican governors fault.

Laughable. No accountability.

The family is calling for an independent investigation.

Where was this fucking family when he left home with a gun?

Commander of Awesome;1811084 wrote:Who says it isn't? Maybe they're fatherless bc they're unfairly incarcerated at a higher percentage than the rest of the population, even for similar crimes.

The fact they never want to address that inconvenient fact and still haven't leads me to believe they don't believe it's important. Even our great leader Obama had the chance to address it a couple months ago during his national broadcast "discussion," but he didnt. It's much easier to play victim, which you just did.

I heard Ben Shapiro provided an interesting statistic the other day (roughly estimate on top of my head) that 50% of the crimes in this country are committed by black people between the ages of 16-30. That's a lot of crime to cry about being "unfair." Not to mention you're telling me that roughly 67% of black fathers are incarcerated? Again, the majority of these crimes are happening in cities and towns where the local politicians/decision makers are democrat or black democrats. So who is oppressing who again? They vote for the same party and politicians who don't give a fuck about them to except their vote to keep them employed. They have been fooled for over 50 years. Large black groups (BLM for example) rather be victimized instead of looking at the mirror and addressing their family structure issue. They should take notes from the Jewish population (almost eradicated from earth) and asians (placed in internment camps). The family structure focusing on education and discipline seem to be treating them very well. If only asians, jews, and successful liberals would preach what they practice...

queencitybuckeye;1811091 wrote:The family is calling for an independent investigation.

Where was this fucking family when he left home with a gun?

Translation: We want money for our parental failures.

like_that;1811093 wrote: They should take notes from the Jewish population (almost eradicated from earth) and asians (placed in internment camps). The family structure focusing on education and discipline seem to be treating them very well. If only asians, jews, and successful liberals would preach what they practice...

What, you're telling me other minority groups(and gasp white people!!!) have been historically discrimated against and managed to overcome that to be successful groups of people?

TRIGGERED.

Commander of Awesome;1811071 wrote:You've said some dumb shit, but this might take the cake. Nice hottaek there shooter.

I'd have to agree he has said some dumb shit, but this is pretty right on. Start blaming the actual black communities instead of the convenient "institutional racism" argument. It's impossible to argue with people like you because all you cry is racism and listen to nothing else.

Bill Cosby back in the day used to speak out on how they need to start taking personal responsibility, start building their family structure and ending the violence but it never gained much traction and he would be called an uncle tom. Most people dont want to look in the mirror and believe their problems are caused by the person looking back at them.

3yr old article but Walter Williams hits the nail on the head.

http://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2013/07/31/black-selfsabotage-n1651550

Commander of Awesome;1811084 wrote:Who says it isn't? Maybe they're fatherless bc they're unfairly incarcerated at a higher percentage than the rest of the population, even for similar crimes. How about their education system? If you're a minority you're more likely to go to a shitty school, in a poor neighborhood with shitty teachers.

"Among racial and ethnic groups, African Americans had the highest poverty rate, 27.4 percent, followed by Hispanics at 26.6 percent and whites at 9.9 percent. 45.8 percent of young black children (under age 6) live in poverty, compared to 14.5 percent of white children."

Maybe we should first start addressing the large economic divide inside of QQing about one family getting a million dollars bc some asshat police officer killed their kid.

Didn't notice you edited your post. As far as education a few points:

-Once again parenting/family structure with a focus on education and discipline can resolve most of those issues. Come home with a C+? Discipline the child. Skipping school? Damn well better fucking discipline. Kid continuously acts out in class? Don't leave it up to the school to discipline your child, you do it yourself. If the majority of the kids who go to these "shitty" school, with "shitty" teachers had parents with this type of structure then most of the issues would be resolved. They wouldn't act out in class, and these "shitty" teachers would be able to do their job at their "shitty" school.

-No clue where you get the idea that these teachers are shitty. Most of them went to school and got a degree in education, or even a masters just like every teacher in this country. I know a few teachers in DC who teach for DC public schools and received their degrees from very prestigious universities.

- If you don't believe family structure can resolve most of these issues, what can? Funding? DC spends the 2nd highest amount per student and their graduation rate is still at a whopping 62%. That's good enough for last place. Another example is trotwood madison HS in dayton. "Shitty" school and shitty area. The state decided to provide trotwood funding to completely renovate their school with new facilities. Result: 63% graduation rate.

-Another note on parents and education. I will admit I went to a school in a rich area, predominately white, but the family structure still applies there. I also coached wrestling there. There were still kids with poor families, some black. Just from coaching alone I have dealt with poor parents who are dumber than rocks (white and black), but they stayed on top of their kids and would rip the shit out of them if they misbehaved or came home with bad grades. Those kids now are doing pretty well for themselves. They are either going to college or are gainfully employed. On the flip side, I also had parents who were very wealthy and successful. Some weren't around for their kids as much as the poorer parents I just mentioned. Those kids didn't have the best grades, and frankly aren't doing the best for themselves post HS.

Needless to say, I believe family structure is most important. It seems within black communities it is not that important and thus you have a vicious cycle that will never raise the majority of a particular community out of poverty. It's much easier to play the victim card and vote for people who pretend they care about them and have done nothing to help them.

Minutes ago heard what the truancy rate was at the city schools and it is astonishing.

The kids are not going to take education seriously if their parents arent taking it seriously, and that is black or white. SHow me a shitty student and a vast majority of the time it is a result of a shitty parent and not a shitty teacher.

thavoice;1811109 wrote: The kids are not going to take education seriously if their parents arent taking it seriously, and that is black or white. SHow me a shitty student and a vast majority of the time it is a result of a shitty parent and not a shitty teacher.

I agree with this, but how do you break the cycle? These shitty students will grow up to be shitty parents and they will raise more shitty students.

FatHobbit;1811112 wrote:I agree with this, but how do you break the cycle? These shitty students will grow up to be shitty parents and they will raise more shitty students.

For starters, if you want to have a "discussion" try bringing up family structure for once.

like_that;1811113 wrote:For starters, if you want to have a "discussion" try bringing up family structure for once.

I can agree with that.

I also can't believe that we continue to find schools with property taxes, which leads to less funding in poor districts. That was determined to be unconstitutional a while ago but nobody cares to fix it apparently

"unfairly incarcerated"?!? good lord, COA, I thought I heard it all...unreal

thavoice;1811109 wrote:Minutes ago heard what the truancy rate was at the city schools and it is astonishing.

The kids are not going to take education seriously if their parents arent taking it seriously, and that is black or white. SHow me a shitty student and a vast majority of the time it is a result of a shitty parent and not a shitty teacher.

this X100000

Kids that dont value education come from homes that dont value it. Doesnt matter race, income or opportunity.