Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Sep 15, 2016 8:36am
Surprised this wasn't on here yet...from everything in the article, sounds pretty cut and dry that the officer did what he needed to do. Unfortunate and sad? Absolutely. Would I do the same thing in that situation as the officer...Absolutely.
http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/story/news/nation/2016/09/15/ohio-police-officer-shoots-kills-13-year-old-bb-gun/90398996/?hootPostID=a14cb479903ab18abb2b36a0fdb4f22e
However, I'm just waiting for this to get picked up nationally and seeing how this will be spun by some.
http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/story/news/nation/2016/09/15/ohio-police-officer-shoots-kills-13-year-old-bb-gun/90398996/?hootPostID=a14cb479903ab18abb2b36a0fdb4f22e
However, I'm just waiting for this to get picked up nationally and seeing how this will be spun by some.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Sep 15, 2016 9:58am
A tragic story, but from the initial reports it sounds like a justified shooting.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Sep 15, 2016 10:12am
If the kid is black and the officer is white, the shooting is never justified.Fly4Fun;1810999 wrote:A tragic story, but from the initial reports it sounds like a justified shooting.
Also should add, if the kid is white, it won't make national news.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Sep 15, 2016 10:35am
I mean... really? This is 100% justified. My only question/concern with any situation like this is "shoot to kill." Why can we not shoot to disarm or shoot to disable?Police said the gun, found at the scene, was later determined to be a BB gun with an attached laser sight.
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Gardens35
Posts: 4,929
Sep 15, 2016 10:44am
A dead gunman can't shoot back, a wounded one could.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Sep 15, 2016 10:48am
Because shooting to disarm or disable can still get you killed. These guys make $40k a year and want to get back to their families at night.
Have you shot a gun? If you need to stop something you aren't going to aim for the smallest target (an arm or leg).
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Have you shot a gun? If you need to stop something you aren't going to aim for the smallest target (an arm or leg).
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OSH
Posts: 4,145
Sep 15, 2016 10:48am
I hate this question. Sorry.ernest_t_bass;1811006 wrote:I mean... really? This is 100% justified. My only question/concern with any situation like this is "shoot to kill." Why can we not shoot to disarm or shoot to disable?
But, to just answer it, maybe the officer did? A couple of shots to disable him...just wasn't able to pull through.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 15, 2016 10:48am
Beat me to it.sleeper;1811000 wrote:If the kid is black and the officer is white, the shooting is never justified.
Also should add, if the kid is white, it won't make national news.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Sep 15, 2016 10:48am
My initial thought was...who mounts a laser scope on a BB gun?ernest_t_bass;1811006 wrote:I mean... really? This is 100% justified. My only question/concern with any situation like this is "shoot to kill." Why can we not shoot to disarm or shoot to disable?
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Sep 15, 2016 12:12pm
Hitting a moving target at a decent range out in 'just a food or arm' is not as easy as they make it seem on TV.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Sep 15, 2016 12:43pm
One doesn't "shoot to kill", they shoot to stop the threat. The best way to do so is to fire center-mass until the bad guy gives up or goes down. Until that happens, he's still a threat to the officer's safety.
Also, it's been estimated that under the stress of these types of situations, even good shooters lose about 60% of their accuracy. You shoot at the largest target available (center-mass), and hope you hit it.
Also, it's been estimated that under the stress of these types of situations, even good shooters lose about 60% of their accuracy. You shoot at the largest target available (center-mass), and hope you hit it.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Sep 15, 2016 1:45pm
Change "not as easy" to "damn near impossible", especially if you think the target might be shooting back.......Way to much TV.thavoice;1811031 wrote:Hitting a moving target at a decent range out in 'just a food or arm' is not as easy as they make it seem on TV.
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Zoltan
Posts: 1,003
Sep 15, 2016 1:58pm
Sad, hope there is body cam footage to put the truth out, whatever that may be.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Sep 15, 2016 2:09pm
Does Columbus use them?Zoltan;1811043 wrote:Sad, hope there is body cam footage to put the truth out, whatever that may be.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Sep 15, 2016 2:34pm
I believe Columbus has them but not for every officer. You can probably guess that this officer didn't have one on, but luckily for him there were multiple witnesses of the shooting who are allegedly corroborating the officer's story.Benny The Jet;1811047 wrote:Does Columbus use them?
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Sep 15, 2016 3:16pm
Point a gun at someone, especially a law enforcement agent who also has a gun, expect to get shot.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Sep 15, 2016 3:23pm
Seems simple but the hashtag commandos have started the spin (#TyreeKing). #blacklivesmatterfactsdonotvball10set;1811052 wrote:Point a gun at somebody, especially a law enforcement official who also has a gun, expect to get shot.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Sep 15, 2016 3:35pm
Likely a pay day coming for the family.queencitybuckeye;1811055 wrote:Seems simple but the hashtag commandos have started the spin (#TyreeKing). #blacklivesmatterfactsdonot
Racism will never die because it pays too well.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Sep 15, 2016 3:37pm
Never thought of it like that, but it sure makes you wonder.sleeper;1811059 wrote:Likely a pay day coming for the family.
Racism will never die because it pays too well.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Sep 15, 2016 3:42pm
Certainly the race pimps (Jackson, Sharpton, etc.) want nothing to do with the end of racism. Sadly, they and their ilk have convinced a number of dull white SJWs that there's merit to their nonsense.vball10set;1811060 wrote:Never thought of it like that, but it sure makes you wonder.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Sep 15, 2016 3:59pm
Sandra Bland's family just got $1.9M because she killed herself in police custody.vball10set;1811060 wrote:Never thought of it like that, but it sure makes you wonder.
Do you think a random white person who goes through the same thing gets paid?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Sep 15, 2016 4:00pm
Yes, without a doubt.sleeper;1811068 wrote:Sandra Bland's family just got $1.9M because she killed herself in police custody.
Do you think a random white person who goes through the same thing gets paid?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Sep 15, 2016 4:02pm
No chance. It wouldn't make national news and without the political pressure there's no way the police department would have settled.Commander of Awesome;1811069 wrote:Yes, without a doubt.
$1.9M for killing yourself. What a time to be alive.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Sep 15, 2016 4:04pm
You've said some dumb shit, but this might take the cake. Nice hottaek there shooter.sleeper;1811059 wrote:
Racism will never die because it pays too well.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 15, 2016 4:04pm
Pretty much this. White people already have too much privilege.sleeper;1811070 wrote:No chance. It wouldn't make national news and without the political pressure there's no way the police department would have settled.
$1.9M for killing yourself. What a time to be alive.