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Aug 29, 2016 10:33 PM
God Bless Kipnis.

Not sure what you all were watching, but what view did you see to overturn that call? Pretty obvious he would be out. All 4 angles were blocked.
Aug 29, 2016 10:33pm
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Aug 29, 2016 10:34 PM
Laley23;1808880 wrote:He did. Allen has never been great as a 2 inning pitcher. He gets tired after about 25 pitches.
Then he needs to get his fat ass in better shape-lol...but no, he didn't do his job--closers don't walk back to back hitters. Period.
Aug 29, 2016 10:34pm
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Aug 29, 2016 10:37 PM
Laley23;1808880 wrote:He gets tired after about 25 pitches.
SMH.............

Oh well.

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Aug 29, 2016 10:37pm
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Aug 29, 2016 10:39 PM
vball10set;1808902 wrote:Then he needs to get his fat ass in better shape-lol...but no, he didn't do his job--closers don't walk back to back hitters. Period.
Allen got 5 outs. Tito tried to stretch him further than he should've. Period.

You can't have guys specialize in shit, like pen pitching, and then extend them beyond what they train their bodies for. You have other guys in the pen you train for 50 pitches. Most are 1 inning guys.

Hell, some lefty releivers are only working out and have the arm to go like 15 pitches because they are only asked to get 1-2 hitters out in a game.

Trying to stretch a bullpen mans arm out for longer outings results in a decline in their stuff.
Aug 29, 2016 10:39pm
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Aug 29, 2016 10:51 PM
Good win.

We are all Kipnises.

Go Tribe.
Aug 29, 2016 10:51pm
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Aug 29, 2016 10:56 PM
Good win, good pitching. Still need to see more offense. On to the roller coaster that is Tomlin tomorrow.


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Aug 30, 2016 7:31 AM
Laley23;1808904 wrote:Allen got 5 outs. Tito tried to stretch him further than he should've. Period.

You can't have guys specialize in shit, like pen pitching, and then extend them beyond what they train their bodies for. You have other guys in the pen you train for 50 pitches. Most are 1 inning guys.

Hell, some lefty releivers are only working out and have the arm to go like 15 pitches because they are only asked to get 1-2 hitters out in a game.

Trying to stretch a bullpen mans arm out for longer outings results in a decline in their stuff.
blah, blah, blah--again, closers doing their job DO NOT walk back to back hitters. Maybe he should be relegated to a situational one batter pitcher if he can't go more than three guys. Anyway, good win, now let's get another tonight...GO TRIBE!
Aug 30, 2016 7:31am
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Aug 30, 2016 8:22 AM
Laley23;1808901 wrote:God Bless Kipnis.

Not sure what you all were watching, but what view did you see to overturn that call? Pretty obvious he would be out. All 4 angles were blocked.
To be frank, I didn't see anything to overturn the call, but I didn't see a tag either. To use an actual umpire standard, you must see a tag to call someone out...you can't assume a tag.
Aug 30, 2016 8:22am
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Aug 30, 2016 8:34 AM
Is it too early to play the "what inning will Tomlin give up a homer" game?
Aug 30, 2016 8:34am
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Aug 30, 2016 9:27 AM
iclfan2;1808919 wrote:Is it too early to play the "what inning will Tomlin give up a homer" game?
It's never too early.

I'll go with the 1st inning. First batter. Get ahead fastball to Dozier that ends up in the bleachers.
Aug 30, 2016 9:27am
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Aug 30, 2016 9:57 AM
Let's pretend Tomlin gets shelled...again....tonight. Will they finally skip his next start? Give Clevinger a start?
Aug 30, 2016 9:57am
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Aug 30, 2016 10:08 AM
Benny The Jet;1808923 wrote:Let's pretend Tomlin gets shelled...again....tonight. Will they finally skip his next start? Give Clevinger a start?
For what it's worth...pro baseball bettors hitting the over (9.5 runs) hard in his game. Combination of Albers not starting a big league game since 2013 and Tomlin's recent form. The Tribe are just not hitting, though.

The Twins last 6 games before last night they gave up 9,8,15,8,9 and 8 runs. Come to Cleveland and it's 9 shutout innings.
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Aug 30, 2016 10:11 AM
Benny The Jet;1808923 wrote:Let's pretend Tomlin gets shelled...again....tonight. Will they finally skip his next start? Give Clevinger a start?
Tito almost has to, imo...at least I hope so.
Aug 30, 2016 10:11am
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Aug 30, 2016 10:32 AM
vball10set;1808917 wrote:blah, blah, blah--again, closers doing their job DO NOT walk back to back hitters. Maybe he should be relegated to a situational one batter pitcher if he can't go more than three guys. Anyway, good win, now let's get another tonight...GO TRIBE!
You keep saying this. But it's not even true lol. Allen has to be pulled before Sano even steps in. Even Hammy was calling for it..."single by Plouffe, and now Tito has to look at pulling Allen. He is already out for tomorrow and is tiring for tonight. He's well over 25 pitches, which is about his limit."

Allen went K, FO, 2B, K, K, FO, BB, 1B (needs taken out), BB (is taken out). Again, he did his job, Tito just got greedy and tried to extend him since Miller and Shaw had been used already. It's NOT a closers job to go through the entire lineup. It's not anyone in the Pens job to do that, aside from the guys who are there for it.
Aug 30, 2016 10:32am
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Aug 30, 2016 10:53 AM
Laley23;1808928 wrote:You keep saying this. But it's not even true lol. Allen has to be pulled before Sano even steps in. Even Hammy was calling for it..."single by Plouffe, and now Tito has to look at pulling Allen. He is already out for tomorrow and is tiring for tonight. He's well over 25 pitches, which is about his limit."

Allen went K, FO, 2B, K, K, FO, BB, 1B (needs taken out), BB (is taken out). Again, he did his job, Tito just got greedy and tried to extend him since Miller and Shaw had been used already. It's NOT a closers job to go through the entire lineup. It's not anyone in the Pens job to do that, aside from the guys who are there for it.
Molitor tried the same thing. Brought in Kintzler to get the last out of the 8th. He got through the 9th rather easily and then they sent him back out for the 10th. That type of guy isn't used to sitting down between innings and then getting fired back up again...let alone twice. And you could tell he didn't have it in the 10th despite an efficient pitch count going into the inning.
Aug 30, 2016 10:53am
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Aug 30, 2016 11:21 AM
For tonight's game it is the Josh Tomlin drinking game. You take a drink every time he gives up a home run.

Go Great Lakes Brewing Company

Go Tribe
Aug 30, 2016 11:21am
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Aug 30, 2016 1:07 PM
Laley23;1808928 wrote:You keep saying this. But it's not even true lol. Allen has to be pulled before Sano even steps in. Even Hammy was calling for it..."single by Plouffe, and now Tito has to look at pulling Allen. He is already out for tomorrow and is tiring for tonight. He's well over 25 pitches, which is about his limit."

Allen went K, FO, 2B, K, K, FO, BB, 1B (needs taken out), BB (is taken out). Again, he did his job, Tito just got greedy and tried to extend him since Miller and Shaw had been used already. It's NOT a closers job to go through the entire lineup. It's not anyone in the Pens job to do that, aside from the guys who are there for it.
TBone14;1808933 wrote:Molitor tried the same thing. Brought in Kintzler to get the last out of the 8th. He got through the 9th rather easily and then they sent him back out for the 10th. That type of guy isn't used to sitting down between innings and then getting fired back up again...let alone twice. And you could tell he didn't have it in the 10th despite an efficient pitch count going into the inning.
point taken...and to be honest, I've been critical of Tito's handling of late, so this does follow the trend (for the record, though, I'm a HUGE Tito fan--wouldn't want any other coach in the league)
Aug 30, 2016 1:07pm
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Aug 30, 2016 1:55 PM
I agree Allen should have never faced sano. I think tonight is tomlins last chance. If he struggles I bet we see clevinger the rest of the year


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Aug 30, 2016 7:12 PM
That didn't take long smh


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Aug 30, 2016 7:12 PM
LOL, drink up. One pitch....its Dozier 1 Tribe 0.
Aug 30, 2016 7:12pm
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Aug 30, 2016 7:13 PM
One pitch. One Home Run and the Josh Tomlin drinking game is off and running.
Aug 30, 2016 7:13pm
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Aug 30, 2016 7:14 PM
TBone14;1808921 wrote:It's never too early.

I'll go with the 1st inning. First batter. Get ahead fastball to Dozier that ends up in the bleachers.
Wow.
Aug 30, 2016 7:14pm
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Aug 30, 2016 7:15 PM
TBone14;1808921 wrote:It's never too early.

I'll go with the 1st inning. First batter. Get ahead fastball to Dozier that ends up in the bleachers.
Thanks. I'll be here all week.
Aug 30, 2016 7:15pm
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Aug 30, 2016 7:28 PM
Kip with a solo shot. Should be 2-2 but dumbass Davis gets caught stealing 3rd after a lead off double smh


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Aug 30, 2016 7:29 PM
Kip gets half back. Solo job after Rajai was caught stealing.

2-1. Hopefully Tomlin can settle in and give us 5 and only give up 1 more max.

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