Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jul 13, 2016 12:51pm
Yeah, the problem with that is that during primary season, regardless of party, the main candidate always seems to go farther to the left/right to claim more support. And then when they've gotten the nomination, they swing back towards the center to court the all-important moderate/undecided vote. In today's world, politics is a fluid world, at least if you want to thrive.like_that;1803184 wrote:Yeah, even you don't believe this bullshit lol.
I mean, we all know Hillary has changed her stances on a ton of shit through her career and Trump's no different (other than how he hasn't been in politics as long) -- https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/05/06/five-times-donald-trump-changed-his-position-on-a-really-big-issue/
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Jul 13, 2016 1:23pm
You're right. The smart and principled thing to do would have been to refuse to endorse Crooked Hillary and ensure a perpetual disenchantment between Bernie supporters and the Democratic Party which has incorporated Bernie's ideas due to his campaign. Makes so much sense.like_that;1803184 wrote:Yeah, even you don't believe this bullshit lol.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jul 13, 2016 2:06pm
BoatShoes;1803181 wrote:Trump agrees with Bernie on single payer
Trump will not appoint a conservative to the court...his daughter won't let him...he is saying what you want to hear and SHOCKER you believe him.
Trump has said rich will have to pay more...but he says somethng different everyday. I mean he once endorsed a huge wealth tax....in any case...much closer to,Bernie than Paul Ryan who wants 0% on cap gains and investment income.
Military- Trump is more anti-intervention than anyone. He and Bernie are in the same spot.
Again, Trump is,only hardcore on immigration. And on that he is far to the right of paul ryan.
Basically what we have learned is that the GOP base is willing to vote for a man who is liberal or,open to liberal ideas so long,as they are vociferously anti-immigration and even,willing to,dramatically increase big,government to deport and shut down illegal immigration.
Comical -- thanks.
Obviously you and the left are getting extremely nervous that the serial liar may go down in flames. Exactly what type of person is it that supports a money-laundering, serial lying criminal for president?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 13, 2016 2:17pm
If you truly believe you are starting a revolution, then yes. I would even go a step further and say he should have fan as a third party candidate.BoatShoes;1803202 wrote:You're right. The smart and principled thing to do would have been to refuse to endorse Crooked Hillary and ensure a perpetual disenchantment between Bernie supporters and the Democratic Party which has incorporated Bernie's ideas due to his campaign. Makes so much sense.
The dude is just a typical sell out politician, who is full of shit. Par for the course for all of our politicians. Congrats on riling up the young voting base and turning them into socialists tho!! You changed this country for good!!!
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jul 14, 2016 5:39pm
If my social media feeds are any indication, Jill Stein just got a huge uptick in potential voters.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Jul 19, 2016 9:42pm
Sadly this won't happen. Leftists won't actually follow through. They will fall in line and vote for hillary.O-Trap;1803300 wrote:If my social media feeds are any indication, Jill Stein just got a huge uptick in potential voters.
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Jul 25, 2016 7:17am
After thinking about the wikileaks information regarding the fact that the modern democrats are still propogating racism, I have to admit that I kind of feel sorry for Bernie Sanders. Not that I really thought that he had a fighting chance to win the democratic nomation, not at all. But it seems pretty ironic to me that the party who stands on social justice for the masses as the basis for their platform are actually utilizing racial, religious and financial bigotry.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 25, 2016 7:29am
Did you see the emails mocking black peoples' names or referring to Hispanics as taco bowls?CenterBHSFan;1804206 wrote:After thinking about the wikileaks information regarding the fact that the modern democrats are still propogating racism, I have to admit that I kind of feel sorry for Bernie Sanders. Not that I really thought that he had a fighting chance to win the democratic nomation, not at all. But it seems pretty ironic to me that the party who stands on social justice for the masses as the basis for their platform are actually utilizing racial, religious and financial bigotry.
It always brings the lulz that people actually think the GOP and their supporters are the only ones capable of being discriminatory or racist. Liberals and dems have done a great job perpetuating that narrative with their divide and conquer approach. I have some of the most bleed heart liberal friends and I can't even repeat some of the fucked up shit they have said.
As for Bernie, I would feel bad for him, except even with all the facts out he is still a sell out ***** endorsing Hillary and the Dems. As someone mentioned in another thread (or maybe I saw it somewhere else), can we say Stockholm syndrome?
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Jul 25, 2016 9:17am
Actually, I did not :/like_that;1804207 wrote:Did you see the emails mocking black peoples' names or referring to Hispanics as taco bowls?
It seems that every year I become more and more disenfranchised from the democratic party. IMO, it's in even worse shape than the republican party. They both have equal faults, just in different areas, although the dems just broke through their own fourth wall LOL!
At this point, I just hope Hillary loses. Maybe the dems can grow up if they get shocked by their own bigotry, hyperbole and mean-spiritedness.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Jul 25, 2016 12:13pm
Without HC, the Dems would be useless. WHo would they have put up for PRez? THey have noone.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 17, 2016 4:43pm
https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/bernies-shame-rallies-clinton-amid-humiliating-leaks/
Used, abused, and humiliated ...................just like all the other Clinton victims
Used, abused, and humiliated ...................just like all the other Clinton victims
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Oct 17, 2016 8:09pm
gosh a ruddies above all else Sanders realizes what a complete POS Trump is.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Oct 17, 2016 8:23pm
isadore;1816331 wrote:gosh a ruddies above all else Sanders realizes what a complete POS Trump is.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Oct 18, 2016 8:53am
gosh a ruddies I realize having a conscience is beyond the understanding of a Trump supporterO-Trap;1816343 wrote:
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 18, 2016 10:04am
isadore;1816331 wrote:gosh a ruddies above all else Sanders realizes what a complete POS Trump is.
As Larry Nichols said many times; the Clintons go through your life like a tornado; they move on [and up] while you are left with the destruction and despair.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Oct 18, 2016 10:11am
Bernie chose life, private jet, but most importantly life over pursuing victory over the Clinton machine.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Oct 18, 2016 1:47pm
Conscience is typically why people stick to their convictions.isadore;1816582 wrote:gosh a ruddies I realize having a conscience is beyond the understanding of a Trump supporter
Unlike Sanders.
And a Trump presidency terrifies me. Someone obviously hasn't been paying attention.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Oct 18, 2016 5:40pm
Don't forget the $600,000 beach house.bases_loaded;1816611 wrote:Bernie chose life, private jet, but most importantly life over pursuing victory over the Clinton machine.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Oct 18, 2016 9:34pm
gosh a ruddies Larry Nichols, a disgruntled Arkansas state employee, who was fired by Clinton for ripping off the state, then lying about it. His subsequent attempt to sue over his dismissal failed. class guyQuakerOats;1816606 wrote:As Larry Nichols said many times; the Clintons go through your life like a tornado; they move on [and up] while you are left with the destruction and despair.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Oct 18, 2016 9:36pm
putting the best interest of the country above personal pique, that is conscience.O-Trap;1816674 wrote:Conscience is typically why people stick to their convictions.
Unlike Sanders.
And a Trump presidency terrifies me. Someone obviously hasn't been paying attention.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Oct 18, 2016 9:40pm
I don't know what isadore said, but all the Bernie fans who are behind Hillary now crack me up. Fucking hypocrites.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Oct 18, 2016 10:14pm
Zwick FTWFatHobbit;1816818 wrote:I don't know what isadore said, but all the Bernie fans who are behind Hillary now crack me up. Fucking hypocrites.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Oct 18, 2016 10:18pm
gosh a ruddies as opposed to Ted Cruz and his supporters after Trump called his wife a pig and his father part of the plot to kill Kennedy. Why shouldn't Bernie supporters support Hillary her positions are a lot closer to Bernie's than they are to Trump's on most issues. Oh and Trump is a racist, misogynist emotional pygmy and a POS.FatHobbit;1816818 wrote:I don't know what isadore said, but all the Bernie fans who are behind Hillary now crack me up. Fucking hypocrites.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Oct 18, 2016 10:18pm
If you have a conscience how do you vote for Hillary??? the classic example of a corrupt politician, taking money in pay to play, ineffectual leadership, lying to save her ass from her own carelessness, and cheating her main competition from her own party. SMH.
Bernie fans crack me up period.... the guy is a flaming socialist whose ideology was intellectually defeated 30 years ago.[but all the Bernie fans who are behind Hillary now crack me up
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Oct 18, 2016 10:24pm
gosh a ruddies easily. 1 I don't accept your description of Mrs. Clinton 2. Donald Trump is the least qualified and most dangerous person every nominated by a major party for election as a President.HitsRus;1816834 wrote:If you have a conscience how do you vote for Hillary??? the classic example of a corrupt politician, taking money in pay to play, ineffectual leadership, lying to save her ass from her own carelessness, and cheating her main competition from her own party. SMH.
Bernie fans crack me up period.... the guy is a flaming socialist whose ideology was intellectually defeated 30 years ago.