Archive Top 5 QB All-Time

Ironman92

Posts: 49,363

Mar 7, 2016 10:47pm

Now that Peyton is done.

Mine:

1. Brady
2. Montana
3. Manning
4. Elway (wanted him 2nd or 3rd and if needing a drive to win it he might be my #1)
5. Marino (wanted to go Steve Young)

Great consideration: Farve

Don't know where to rank: Brees

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Mar 8, 2016 12:31am

1. Otto Graham
2. Marino
3. Brady
4. Manning
5. Elway

With little thought behind it. No disputing #1 tho.

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BR1986FB

Posts: 24,104

Mar 8, 2016 8:22am

1. Montana
2. Brady
3. Manning
4. Marino
5. Elway

j_crazy

Posts: 8,372

Mar 8, 2016 8:47am

1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Favre
4. Marino or Montana
5. Marino or Montana

Iliketurtles

Posts: 8,191

Mar 8, 2016 9:03am

Brady
Manning
Montana
Elway
Favre

Automatik

Posts: 14,632

Mar 8, 2016 9:09am

Brady
Montana
Marino
Manning
Elway

Ironman92

Posts: 49,363

Mar 8, 2016 9:19am

These are interesting. Not really any definite slots for any of them.

Ironman92

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Mar 8, 2016 9:21am

Elway and Farve were similar. Elway more reliable when needed I think. 5 Super Bowls....Farve has the MVPs but one was ridiculously over Marshall Faulk.

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BR1986FB

Posts: 24,104

Mar 8, 2016 9:29am

Ironman92;1785147 wrote:Elway and Farve were similar. Elway more reliable when needed I think. 5 Super Bowls....Farve has the MVPs but one was ridiculously over Marshall Faulk.

If you look purely at stats, it isn't all that close. Elway threw for 4000 yards one time in his career with a high TD year of 27 and a completion % of around 57%. Favre threw for 4000 yards 6 times, had at least 27 TD's in 11 years and had a 62% completion percentage. What kills Favre is that he threw quite a few picks plus Elway has the SB appearances.

Azubuike24

Posts: 15,933

Mar 8, 2016 9:45am

You can't just downgrade Montana, Elway, etc...because their numbers don't match up. You're crazy to think those guys wouldn't have similar numbers if their careers were the 90's to present vs the 80's to 2000.

For instance, Elway's highest passing attempts per year was 605 and he only was over 550 twice. 605 wouldn't even rank in the top 5 in 2015.

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BR1986FB

Posts: 24,104

Mar 8, 2016 9:56am

Azubuike24;1785152 wrote:You can't just downgrade Montana, Elway, etc...because their numbers don't match up. You're crazy to think those guys wouldn't have similar numbers if their careers were the 90's to present vs the 80's to 2000.

For instance, Elway's highest passing attempts per year was 605 and he only was over 550 twice. 605 wouldn't even rank in the top 5 in 2015.

I wasn't arguing in favor of Favre over Elway as you can see my top 5. I agree that stats can't be argued, in some cases. In today's league, Elway would likely be chucking the ball all over the yard as most teams do.

Ironman92

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Mar 8, 2016 11:00am

Passing numbers are tough...it was different. Farve and Elway didn't get to pass in the dome or Miami. Elway didn't have great receivers as much as Montana and Marino did early on. Farve IMO had a little better receivers and running backs throughout his career than Elway...but they are close. Elway and Farve had a career of getting passes through when they had no business doing so.

Montana and Brady are close...I think Montana consistently had better skill players around him but I think Brady can make more of the difficult passes. Montana is basically Brady but more likable.

Marino is Manning with 2 fewer championships. From the insanely quick release to the lead feet.

Hard to compare as the 3 younger guys all throw so much more and passes are shorter for higher completion %

Ironman92

Posts: 49,363

Mar 8, 2016 11:02am

And I'll be honest...I'm biased to Elway because he was the only QB who could consistently beat those ridiculously talented Browns teams back when I hated them the most....that right there wins in tie-breakers with me.

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BR1986FB

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Mar 8, 2016 11:11am

Ironman92;1785171 wrote:And I'll be honest...I'm biased to Elway because he was the only QB who could consistently beat those ridiculously talented Browns teams back when I hated them the most....that right there wins in tie-breakers with me.

Booo !!!!

ernest_t_bass

Posts: 24,984

Mar 8, 2016 11:15am

1. Marino

2 - 5 - Does it really matter!!!???

SnotBubbles

Posts: 4,492

Mar 8, 2016 12:40pm

1. Montana
2. Manning
3. Marino
4. Favre
5. Elway

Brady will go to #3 on that list when he retires. Unless he gets another SB win, then I'll take him up to 2, maybe 1.

Ironman92

Posts: 49,363

Mar 8, 2016 1:09pm

SnotBubbles;1785186 wrote:1. Montana
2. Manning
3. Marino
4. Favre
5. Elway

Brady will go to #3 on that list when he retires. Unless he gets another SB win, then I'll take him up to 2, maybe 1.

Why not now?

MontyBrunswick

Posts: 846

Mar 8, 2016 1:13pm

1. Brees
2. Brady
3. Peyton Manning
4. Elway
5. Eli Manning

gerb131

Posts: 9,932

Mar 8, 2016 1:24pm

SnotBubbles;1785186 wrote:1. Montana
2. Manning
3. Marino
4. Favre
5. Elway

Brady will go to #3 on that list when he retires. Unless he gets another SB win, then I'll take him up to 2, maybe 1.

I like that

ernest_t_bass

Posts: 24,984

Mar 8, 2016 2:28pm

I don't get all the love for Montana.

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superman

Posts: 3,582

Mar 8, 2016 2:37pm

1. Montana
2. Brady
3. Elway
4. Favre
5. Manning

Ironman92

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Mar 8, 2016 3:24pm

ernest_t_bass;1785198 wrote:I don't get all the love for Montana.

He was my hardest one to place. His game was similar to Manning/Brady....but he had better weapons than both of them. Great touch but mediocre arm. 4-0 in Super Bowls and one incredible long drive to win one. Maybe his greatest mark was keeping Steve Young as a back up....had Young been given the chance I think he wins the previous two Super Bowls also

Spock

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Mar 8, 2016 5:23pm

Randall Cunningham

MontyBrunswick

Posts: 846

Mar 8, 2016 7:48pm

Spock;1785217 wrote:Randall Cunningham

Akili Smith

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BR1986FB

Posts: 24,104

Mar 8, 2016 7:55pm

MontyBrunswick;1785224 wrote:Akili Smith

Uncle Rico