SC Justice Antonin Scalia has died

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queencitybuckeye
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Feb 15, 2016 11:20am
superman;1781539 wrote:How many of them stand in the way of a band of criminals getting things they want? How many of them were found with a pillow over their face and some two bit government hack declared that no autopsy was necessary without ever seeing the body?
37.
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Belly35
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Feb 15, 2016 11:23am
Presidio County Judge Cinderela Guevara told Fox News that she determined Scalia had died of natural causes. Guevara also said that she had spoken to local investigators and U.S. marshals, as well as Scalia's family and personal physician, before determining that an autopsy was not necessary.

Let get this straight: Police shot and kills a teen there is an autopsy. Women killed in local traffic accident there is an autopsy. Woman drowns in car crash there is an autopsy. Hunter fall from tree deer stand there is an autopsy. President shot there is an autopsy. Man found dead at the mall in his car there is an autopsy. Senator shot there is an autopsy. Police dog killed there is an autopsy. Crib death there is an autopsy

But a SC Justice is not…. get this fat guy in the ground ASAP...
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superman
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Feb 15, 2016 11:29am
queencitybuckeye;1781545 wrote:37.
So you don't have an answer and just want to be an ass? Should have been expected from you.
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queencitybuckeye
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Feb 15, 2016 11:31am
superman;1781555 wrote:So you don't have an answer and just want to be an ass? Should have been expected from you.
You come here spouting conspiracy theory and raging paranoia, and don't expect to be called out on it?
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friendfromlowry
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Feb 15, 2016 11:41am
Belly35;1781548 wrote:Presidio County Judge Cinderela Guevara told Fox News that she determined Scalia had died of natural causes. Guevara also said that she had spoken to local investigators and U.S. marshals, as well as Scalia's family and personal physician, before determining that an autopsy was not necessary.

Let get this straight: Police shot and kills a teen there is an autopsy. Women killed in local traffic accident there is an autopsy. Woman drowns in car crash there is an autopsy. Hunter fall from tree deer stand there is an autopsy. President shot there is an autopsy. Man found dead at the mallin his car there is an autopsy. Senator shot there is an autopsy. Police dog killed there is an autopsy.

But a SC Justice is not…. get this fat guy in the ground ASAP...
Hopefully you realize the difference between a fat, old guy actually exceeding the average life expectancy dying vs the examples you provided which include people dying in accidents or murdered.
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Belly35
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Feb 15, 2016 11:50am
friendfromlowry;1781560 wrote:Hopefully you realize the difference between a fat, old guy actually exceeding the average life expectancy dying vs the examples you provided which include people dying in accidents or murdered.
seem you missed crib death... i did add that after you started to post ... sorry
but i can give you other examples like athletes death, crib deaths ,,

would dying in a hotel room be an accident... or standard daily life style.
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superman
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Feb 15, 2016 12:20pm
queencitybuckeye;1781557 wrote:You come here spouting conspiracy theory and raging paranoia, and don't expect to be called out on it?
If you really think these people are above killing someone to gain power, you are dumber than i thought. And that says a lot.
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friendfromlowry
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Feb 15, 2016 12:20pm
Belly35;1781562 wrote:seem you missed crib death... i did add that after you started to post ... sorry
but i can give you other examples like athletes death, crib deaths ,,

would dying in a hotel room be an accident... or standard daily life style.
Was the person 80 years old and fat?

You're bringing up extreme deaths and comparing them to what happens to thousands of men every day. I agree it's at least worth an autopsy but let's not justify it by comparing it to the baby who died in its crib or teenager while playing football.
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Feb 15, 2016 12:23pm
superman;1781568 wrote:If you really think these people are above killing someone to gain power, you are dumber than i thought. And that says a lot.
It's an equal of a possibility as someone on the other side killing him to frame "these people" in an attempt to gain momentum; I'll give you that.
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Feb 15, 2016 12:33pm
I read a stat the other day that said 97% of all 79-year-olds die. I believe it.
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ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Feb 15, 2016 12:43pm
hasbeen;1781572 wrote:I read a stat the other day that said 97% of all 79-year-olds die. I believe it.
both of my grandfathers died right before their 80th birthday.
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superman
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Feb 15, 2016 12:44pm
Heretic;1781570 wrote:It's an equal of a possibility as someone on the other side killing him to frame "these people" in an attempt to gain momentum; I'll give you that.
I would certainly not put it past either side.
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Feb 15, 2016 1:04pm
i hope they delay so hillary gets to choose the new sc.
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QuakerOats
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Feb 15, 2016 1:17pm
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QuakerOats
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Feb 15, 2016 1:19pm
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QuakerOats
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Feb 15, 2016 1:21pm
Scalia was one of the greatest all-time; he will certainly be missed.
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queencitybuckeye
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Feb 15, 2016 1:22pm
So unless the Republicans are hypocrites, they'll insist on Obama nominating someone at the earliest opportunity.
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queencitybuckeye
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Feb 15, 2016 1:23pm
QuakerOats;1781586 wrote:Old dem senate resolution against election year appointments ........my, my

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/02/dems_in_senate_passed_a_resolution_in1960_against_election_year_supreme_court_appointments.html
So unless the Republicans are hypocrites, they'll insist on Obama nominating someone at the earliest opportunity.
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gut
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Feb 15, 2016 1:30pm
I don't think that means what your or the blogger does....it's about recess appointments, meaning when Congress is out-of-session confirmation is circumvented. This was used not that long ago with respect to the NLRA, I believe.

If Obama puts up a moderate, I don't see how Repubs can't confirm. The grandstanding will be a moot point if Hillary is elected, and if a Repub does win they will get to replace possibly 2-3 judges, restoring or changing the balance again. And if they lose control of the Senate, a moderate is the best you can hope for even with a Repub POTUS.

IMO, the ideal balance is 2-5-2 or possibly 3-3-3 (which is closer to what it was with Scalia). It's popular to say the court was 5-4 conservative, and no doubt that's the story being pushed to pressure Repubs to confirm a liberal, but Kennedy and Thomas vote with liberals enough to be considered moderate or non-partisan.
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Belly35
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Feb 15, 2016 1:31pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1781575 wrote:both of my grandfathers died right before their 80th birthday.
Oh! Fuck ... or .... You fucks have 14 more years of Belly :)
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jmog
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Feb 15, 2016 1:55pm
queencitybuckeye;1781589 wrote:So unless the Republicans are hypocrites, they'll insist on Obama nominating someone at the earliest opportunity.
Or, unless the Democrats are hypocrites, they won't complain a bit if the nominations are challenged/denied.
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Feb 15, 2016 2:55pm
queencitybuckeye;1781589 wrote:So unless the Republicans are hypocrites, they'll insist on Obama nominating someone at the earliest opportunity.
jmog;1781596 wrote:Or, unless the Democrats are hypocrites, they won't complain a bit if the nominations are challenged/denied.
So, since both sides are loaded with hypocrites, what next?
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jmog
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Feb 15, 2016 3:08pm
Heretic;1781604 wrote:So, since both sides are loaded with hypocrites, what next?
Good question
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Feb 15, 2016 3:54pm
QuakerOats;1781586 wrote:Old dem senate resolution against election year appointments ........my, my

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/02/dems_in_senate_passed_a_resolution_in1960_against_election_year_supreme_court_appointments.html
That has to do with recess appointments, which I agree, both R's and D President do too much. (W with John Bolton and Obama with some Judges).
But, that says nothing about during an election year. The law was referring to the recess period when Congress is out of session, which I actually agree with that law.

Still, if you are referring to the Thurman rule, John Oliver had a nice clip last night from 2008 where McConnell said the rule does not exist. Now, he wouldn't back out on his word would he for political gain? Surely not.....
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Con_Alma
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Feb 15, 2016 5:44pm
Heretic;1781604 wrote:So, since both sides are loaded with hypocrites, what next?
Life goes on....cases that the court has agreed to take on will be argued. If for some reason there is a 4-4 tie then the appellate ruling stands.