BR1986FB;1780738 wrote:No doubt teams fall off and have a hangover year. If Carolina can get another legit RB and a WR to go with what Newton already has, they should be in the mix, barring injuries.

They already have a WR for Newton he was just injured last year. Sure getting another one probably wouldn't hurt though.

The only problem with anything Netwon has said/did is the whole time is not going after that fumble late in the 4th and then basically saying afterwards that he wasn't in a great position and didn't want to get hurt. Also I love that he isn't backing down from walking out of the press conference. So dumb for the NFL to put them right next to the Broncos.

Iliketurtles;1780754 wrote:They already have a WR for Newton he was just injured last year. Sure getting another one probably wouldn't hurt though.

The only problem with anything Netwon has said/did is the whole time is not going after that fumble late in the 4th and then basically saying afterwards that he wasn't in a great position and didn't want to get hurt. Also I love that he isn't backing down from walking out of the press conference. So dumb for the NFL to put them right next to the Broncos.

Yeah, I know Benjamin will be coming back but adding another WR & a RB wouldn't hurt that offense. Ginn had a fluke year and Brown is solid but they could use another legit WR.

I agree that it's dumb having the pressers right next to each other.

Iliketurtles;1780754 wrote:They already have a WR for Newton he was just injured last year. Sure getting another one probably wouldn't hurt though.

The only problem with anything Netwon has said/did is the whole time is not going after that fumble late in the 4th and then basically saying afterwards that he wasn't in a great position and didn't want to get hurt. Also I love that he isn't backing down from walking out of the press conference. So dumb for the NFL to put them right next to the Broncos.

The Newton thing is so overblown.

Should he have been more professional and given a respectable press conference? Yes. Is what he did the end of the world? No.

But that's our media for ya.

Exactly as I said earlier...S&L reps how misguided millennials rationalize punk / thug behavior. You've all been so entitled and pampered your entire short piss ant lives, you're willing to make excuses for a likewise POS like Cammie. His complete act was so tired and worn this season by anybody with a lick of true football & team understanding. To be honest I thought the Big Thugger would probably win anyway and little nappy thuggers everywhere would've had their new SuperMan to idolize - but thank god the Broncos D stepped up and once again restored values & accountability to a crumbling NFL culture.

SportsAndLady;1780757 wrote:The Newton thing is so overblown.

Should he have been more professional and given a respectable press conference? Yes. Is what he did the end of the world? No.

But that's our media for ya.

Exactly. This narrative of Cam being a sore loser is ridiculous. No person participating in anything remotely competitive enjoys losing. People will complain and bitch about everything. Tom Brady is a "fiery" competitor, but to some he's a little whiny bitch.

Jesus it's more widespread than I thought.

raiderbuck;1780950 wrote:Exactly. This narrative of Cam being a sore loser is ridiculous. No person participating in anything remotely competitive enjoys losing. People will complain and bitch about everything. Tom Brady is a "fiery" competitor, but to some he's a little whiny bitch.

Precisely. I read a column the other day that made mention of how Peyton didn't shake Drew Brees' hand after the Saints beat Indy in the Super Bowl some years back (PROTIP: Cam congratulated Manning on Sunday) and how at least one outlet which criticized Cam's press conference (Yahoo Sports) passed that incident off as a fiery competitor who just wasn't able to immediately be gracious after losing.

Not liking Newton's demeanor or extreme confidence is one thing, but only a fucking idiot acts like he's truly that much different than most elite-tier athletes. Put them in the right (wrong) situation and a lot more than some might think would be less than perfectly gracious. Hell, Zeke was mostly pure class at OSU, but one ugly loss where he was under-utilized brought out what essentially was a "Fuck this shit, I'm going pro as soon as I can!" quote.

What I don't get is why is this a topic of race? Didn't a black QB lose the SB last year? I would say he lost in a much more gut punching way.

Helluva difference between Russell Wilson and Cammy. Wilson doesn't take every opportunity he can to remind the world he's "an African American QB doing things nobody has ever done before". Newton is text book Thugger and is getting exactly what he deserves from everywhere.

like_that;1781170 wrote:What I don't get is why is this a topic of race? Didn't a black QB lose the SB last year? I would say he lost in a much more gut punching way.

Because everything has to be. On one side, you'll have your Tiernans and Quakers calling them "thuggers" because they don't act the exact same way they feel they should at all times. On the other, you have people who feel any white criticism of a person of color is some form of racism. Sort of how feminist-types will use fucking stupid terms like "mansplaining" if you disagree with them. Which, by the way, is the perfect term to use if you want to look like a joke, IMO.

Heretic;1781179 wrote:Because everything has to be. On one side, you'll have your Tiernans and Quakers calling them "thuggers" because they don't act the exact same way they feel they should at all times. On the other, you have people who feel any white criticism of a person of color is some form of racism. Sort of how feminist-types will use fucking stupid terms like "mansplaining" if you disagree with them. Which, by the way, is the perfect term to use if you want to look like a joke, IMO.

The funny part about this (not football related) was that Muhammad Ali was Cam Newton before Cam was "cool." He was a shit talker who was flamboyant as Hell but most of the old timers won't call Ali a "thugger."

Heretic;1781179 wrote:Because everything has to be. On one side, you'll have your Tiernans and Quakers calling them "thuggers" because they don't act the exact same way they feel they should at all times. On the other, you have people who feel any white criticism of a person of color is some form of racism. Sort of how feminist-types will use fucking stupid terms like "mansplaining" if you disagree with them. Which, by the way, is the perfect term to use if you want to look like a joke, IMO.

Yeah I get that, but Russell Wilson is black and there was no such criticism. The point is why can't we just call a spade a spade. At that particular moment Cam acted like a crybaby. He brings attention to himself. It doesn't matter if he were white, black, purple , pink, etc.

BR1986FB;1781211 wrote:The funny part about this (not football related) was that Muhammad Ali was Cam Newton before Cam was "cool." He was a shit talker who was flamboyant as Hell but most of the old timers won't call Ali a "thugger."

No they just call him a draft dodger.

My favorite part about this thread is that it was taken over but Tiernan keeps trying to talk except no one cares. Probably how it works IRL, too.

Tiernan;1781178 wrote:Helluva difference between Russell Wilson and Cammy. Wilson doesn't take every opportunity he can to remind the world he's "an African American QB doing things nobody has ever done before". Newton is text book Thugger and is getting exactly what he deserves from everywhere.

You're whats wrong with sports. You're why people call it the No Fun League. Who gives a shit if a QB is loud, arrogant, and likes to win? Tom Brady is the exact same way, only difference is he's white. So because Wilson is a robot with no emotion, you have no problem with him? You're a piece of shit.

You misguided dipshit...trying to compare competitive nature to egotistical race baiter. You need someone to just kick you hard in the nuts to jolt some god damn sense into your head Sparky. And I hope I get the chance one day.

...and your fucking next lowery. I'm being wanted yet to beat your sorry ass.

Tiernan;1781270 wrote:...and your fucking next lowery. I'm being wanted yet to beat your sorry ass.

lol. Was this incoherent nonsense typed with tears on your keyboard?

Anyone surprised that Tiernan would go straight for a kick to the groin? Old fucker is overdue for his comeuppance.

Automatik;1781285 wrote:comeuppance.

Please provide the definition for tiernan. He doesn't do well with big words.

Automatik;1781285 wrote:Anyone surprised that Tiernan would go straight for a kick to the groin? Old fucker is overdue for his comeuppance.

Believe me I've had my "comeuppance" handed to me a number of times over the years, but never from some metrosexual from NYC or transplant Wash DC gag plug either. And I'm betting Auto has never actually been in an adult street fight. Let me tell you, it ain't like the movies Sparky...you try to end it as fast as you can and the two ways I've found to be best are kick to the nuts or bite to the nose / ears / face.

Tiernan;1781297 wrote:Believe me I've had my "comeuppance" handed to me a number of times over the years, but never from some metrosexual from NYC or transplant Wash DC gag plug either. And I'm betting Auto has never actually been in an adult street fight. Let me tell you, it ain't like the movies Sparky...you try to end it as fast as you can and the two ways I've found to be best are kick to the nuts or bite to the nose / ears / face.

So that was you in bum fights episode 5?

More like those female McDonald's fights you see on World Star.

Other tactics include scratching and hair pulling. :laugh:

like_that;1781302 wrote:So that was you in bum fights episode 5?

A few years back, he was one of the dudes who Kimbo Slice beat the shit out of when he made a name for himself in those back-alley fights. And that's why he hates those "thuggers". Even though Kimbo was good on his word and gave him the money to get a burger and beer afterwards.

I feel sorry none of you shitbirds have ever felt the exhilaration of Mano y Mano combat. But what do expect from 3 twits that got their lunch money taken from them everyday growing up in Parma, Euclid, Solon or some other NEO rat hole?