Trump vs. Hillary (NO OTHER OPTIONS)

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superman
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Oct 10, 2016 4:43pm
The real winner was Candy Crowley according to what I've been reading. She is no longer the worst debate moderator ever.
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ppaw1999
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Oct 10, 2016 4:48pm
QuakerOats;1814708 wrote:No, they are smart people who care about the direction we are headed. They can be relied upon as objective because they thought he did poorly in the first debate, and he did. If they were in-the-tank surrogates they would not have said he did poorly in the first debate. But it is clear he won the second debate by laying out her decades-long failures as a career politician, pointing out her criminal behavior, and delving in to the facts of her despicable behavior of destroying and threatening victims of abuse ..............not to mention the policy issues that were discussed from obamaKare to the supreme court to taxes etc..etc..

PolitiFact had Trump lying over 80% of the time at last night's debate. How objective can they be if they believe a habitual liar?
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O-Trap
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Oct 10, 2016 4:55pm
The only winner of the second debate is Ken Bone.
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like_that
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Oct 10, 2016 5:00pm
GOP house is in play now. Way to go dumbass trump supporters!
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CenterBHSFan
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Oct 10, 2016 5:05pm
ppaw1999;1814732 wrote:PolitiFact had Trump lying over 80% of the time at last night's debate. How objective can they be if they believe a habitual liar?
Well... they believe Hillary...
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CenterBHSFan
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Oct 10, 2016 5:07pm
like_that;1814737 wrote:GOP house is in play now. Way to go dumbass trump supporters!
That's what truly sucks. Because most people want an opposite party from the President's party. It helps keep things from getting too outrageous.
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sleeper
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Oct 10, 2016 5:16pm
like_that;1814737 wrote:GOP house is in play now. Way to go dumbass trump supporters!
I'm fine with this honestly. I'm done with the GOP.
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sleeper
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Oct 10, 2016 5:18pm
superman;1814731 wrote:The real winner was Candy Crowley according to what I've been reading. She is no longer the worst debate moderator ever.
I do agree that the moderators have been terrible and in particular biased as hell.
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like_that
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Oct 10, 2016 5:24pm
sleeper;1814748 wrote:I'm fine with this honestly. I'm done with the GOP.
That's because you have gone full retard all of a sudden. I am fine with Hillary taking office as long as she is kept in check. The dems don't need a blank check with the supreme court on their side.
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sleeper
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Oct 10, 2016 7:22pm
like_that;1814752 wrote:That's because you have gone full retard all of a sudden. I am fine with Hillary taking office as long as she is kept in check. The dems don't need a blank check with the supreme court on their side.
And the Republicans, the majority of whom support DONALD TRUMP for President don't have any business being in Congress. GOP needs to grow up.
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SportsAndLady
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Oct 10, 2016 7:29pm
sleeper;1814778 wrote:And the Republicans, the majority of whom support DONALD TRUMP for President don't have any business being in Congress. GOP needs to grow up.
The majority of repubs in congress support trump? Why do so many come out against him then?
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like_that
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Oct 10, 2016 7:31pm
sleeper;1814778 wrote:And the Republicans, the majority of whom support DONALD TRUMP for President don't have any business being in Congress. GOP needs to grow up.
You're not going to get me to disagree on that, but I don't need the Dems having a blank check for two years. I'm not comfortable with either party doing that shit. Fuck that noise. Deep down I know you feel the same way.
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Spock
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Oct 10, 2016 8:18pm
The main stream media today has reached a new low. Not one mention of the email dump. Just dumping on trump. He is basically running against HC, the media and half his party. He is the perfect candidate of all that trashbdislikes him.
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sleeper
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Oct 10, 2016 8:35pm
SportsAndLady;1814784 wrote:The majority of repubs in congress support trump? Why do so many come out against him then?
They do yes. Only until recently a few have come forward and denounced him but the majority have chosen party over all else.
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like_that
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Oct 10, 2016 8:39pm
sleeper;1814842 wrote:They do yes. Only until recently a few have come forward and denounced him but the majority have chosen party over all else.
So basically every election with the two party system? Got it.
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Belly35
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Oct 10, 2016 8:48pm
So we all fall into the Esquire rag in the check outline of debate politic, media coverage and Washington DC dirty political tattle tail, personal attacks and the worst of all deflecting issue of the importance from the American public for bus chatter.
Hey get some big boy pants on people the world you live in is not the same that they live in and most likely you will never get there. Eleven years go wtf.. think back of a society that does exist anymore, behavior, morals, values and perception of relationships was different, blow jobs in the oval office was permitted back in the day. Vera Baker get fired.
Has anyone one of you ever thought how the fuck, who the hell and what type of powerful individuals /groups have this type of data at hand to destroy, control and alter the events of today. Doesn’t that somewhere in your mind, makes you wonder. Is this where our country is headed political? Where the corrupt of DC career politician can control the media, billionaire contributor to candidates control data that can jeopardize elections.

Do you just think this shit falls out of the fucking sky.

Truth Matters…. What candidate is more truthful
What candidate plans/idea and agenda are more truthful
What platform for America is more truthful for our country future
What candidate has been the most truthful to the American public.

Truth Matter …and so does Trust…

One is more Truthful than the other …. Isn’t that the one you’ll Trust in more.

Z4P I know you hate the rich and profit of big business so please explain to me why the majority of the USA 1% donated big time to Hillary and not to Trump. But she still claims she is going to tax the fuck out of those 1%? Could it be because they will be profiting more from her agenda and tax loop holes will be to their advantage from the added profits they will be making? Take a little but make me more…
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ppaw1999
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Oct 10, 2016 9:30pm
Politifact truth-o-meter Trump Clinton
True 12 62
Mostly true 33 73
Half true 40 58
Mostly false 51 40
False 100 27
Pants On Fire 49 6
One is more truthful than the other. I agree that is the one you should trust more.
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Spock
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Oct 10, 2016 10:26pm
The public really doent care about fact checking. Honesty means nothing.
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ts1227
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Oct 10, 2016 10:41pm
Spock;1815025 wrote:The public really doent care about fact checking. Honesty means nothing.
No, retards don't care about fact checking
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FatHobbit
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Oct 11, 2016 9:54am
ts1227;1815026 wrote:No, retards don't care about fact checking
Unfortunately I think Spock is correct. They really don't.
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QuakerOats
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Oct 11, 2016 11:56am
ts1227;1815026 wrote:No, retards don't care about fact checking
I think it is the other way around. Morons or those living in a cocoon for the last 25 years might need liberal fact-checking, but most of us don't.

We don't need fact-checking to know Hillary Clinton is a corrupt, serial-lying, money launderer. We know it from IRS records, State department pay-to-play, evidence destruction, and accomplices pleading the 5th amendment.

We don't need fact-checking to know Hillary Clinton is a despicable being; enabling a predator; orchestrating the demonizing and destruction of victims of sexual assault and harassment.

We don't need fact-checking to know Hillary Clinton has a private side - when she is giving 92 speeches to Wall St firms for tens of millions of dollars; and a public side, when she is lying to the American people about her own wealth creation and her deceitful position concerning investment banks and hedge funds.

We don't need fact-checking to know that obamaKare is a complete disaster; the largest legislative and administrative fuck-up in the history of the nation, and also the biggest lie ever sold to the public by one party. She supports this train wreck, we know it.

We don't need fact-checking to know that everything she touched in the Middle East is burning. Her record of failures is just that, a record; one that we know.

We don't need fact-checking to know that she deliberately lied to the families of those killed in Benghazi (because of her ineptness), and she lied to the American people about it, again, and again.

We don't need fact-checking to know that her open borders and amnesty are not in the best interest of our national defense.

We don't need fact-checking to know that her own party and campaign is designed to keep the masses "uninformed and compliant".

We don't need fact-checking to know that she was let off the hook by the FBI and the obama Justice Department for purely political reasons.

We don't need fact-checking to know that she should be going to jail for (purposefully) mishandling classified information, just the like the Marine sergeant who is heading to jail for merely taking a few pictures of his submarine to show his family. We don't need fact-checking to understand this unconscionable double standard.

We don't need fact-checking to know that we have zero economic growth and her policies will never turn that around.

We don't need fact-checking to know that she will continue to use the EPA as the radical leftist's weapon of choice to crush our energy output.

We don't need fact-checking to know that she will nominate radical leftists to the supreme court who will legislate from the bench for liberal causes, and to hell with the Constitution.

We don't need fact-checking to know that the national debt has doubled to $20 trillion under obama, and she is obama III.

We don't need fact-checking to know that our country is in serious trouble and it is headed in the wrong direction, as 70% of the public knows.

We don't need fact-checking to know that our inner cities are disasters and the public education system that is entrenched therein, yet she wants and will deliver, more of the same.

We don't need fact-checking to know she is on the wrong side of every major issue and challenge we face.

Maybe some jackasses need fact-checking, and will politely suck up every lie she utters and do as she says and go to hillaryclintion.com for your propaganda bath, but most people know exactly what the hell is going on and are going to vote accordingly.

Good luck.
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bases_loaded
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Oct 11, 2016 12:46pm
When listening/watching campaign ads which candidate is pandering to the uneducated through scare tactics and mean words?


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ppaw1999
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Oct 11, 2016 12:58pm
QuakerOats;1815088 wrote:I think it is the other way around. Morons or those living in a cocoon for the last 25 years might need liberal fact-checking, but most of us don't.

We don't need fact-checking to know Hillary Clinton is a corrupt, serial-lying, money launderer. We know it from IRS records, State department pay-to-play, evidence destruction, and accomplices pleading the 5th amendment.

We don't need fact-checking to know Hillary Clinton is a despicable being; enabling a predator; orchestrating the demonizing and destruction of victims of sexual assault and harassment.

We don't need fact-checking to know Hillary Clinton has a private side - when she is giving 92 speeches to Wall St firms for tens of millions of dollars; and a public side, when she is lying to the American people about her own wealth creation and her deceitful position concerning investment banks and hedge funds.

We don't need fact-checking to know that obamaKare is a complete disaster; the largest legislative and administrative fuck-up in the history of the nation, and also the biggest lie ever sold to the public by one party. She supports this train wreck, we know it.

We don't need fact-checking to know that everything she touched in the Middle East is burning. Her record of failures is just that, a record; one that we know.

We don't need fact-checking to know that she deliberately lied to the families of those killed in Benghazi (because of her ineptness), and she lied to the American people about it, again, and again.

We don't need fact-checking to know that her open borders and amnesty are not in the best interest of our national defense.

We don't need fact-checking to know that her own party and campaign is designed to keep the masses "uninformed and compliant".

We don't need fact-checking to know that she was let off the hook by the FBI and the obama Justice Department for purely political reasons.

We don't need fact-checking to know that she should be going to jail for (purposefully) mishandling classified information, just the like the Marine sergeant who is heading to jail for merely taking a few pictures of his submarine to show his family. We don't need fact-checking to understand this unconscionable double standard.

We don't need fact-checking to know that we have zero economic growth and her policies will never turn that around.

We don't need fact-checking to know that she will continue to use the EPA as the radical leftist's weapon of choice to crush our energy output.

We don't need fact-checking to know that she will nominate radical leftists to the supreme court who will legislate from the bench for liberal causes, and to hell with the Constitution.

We don't need fact-checking to know that the national debt has doubled to $20 trillion under obama, and she is obama III.

We don't need fact-checking to know that our country is in serious trouble and it is headed in the wrong direction, as 70% of the public knows.

We don't need fact-checking to know that our inner cities are disasters and the public education system that is entrenched therein, yet she wants and will deliver, more of the same.

We don't need fact-checking to know she is on the wrong side of every major issue and challenge we face.

Maybe some jackasses need fact-checking, and will politely suck up every lie she utters and do as she says and go to hillaryclintion.com for your propaganda bath, but most people know exactly what the hell is going on and are going to vote accordingly.

Good luck.
You wouldn't know a fact if it hit you square in the face. I agree people know what is going on and will vote accordingly. The question is will you be here to eat crow the day after the election?
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ppaw1999
Posts: 344
Oct 11, 2016 1:03pm
By the way dumbass Politifact is nonpartisan. That means not biased or partisan to any political group. Just because something doesn't meet your narrow minded views that does not make them Liberal.
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Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Oct 11, 2016 1:03pm
QuakerOats;1815088 wrote:I think it is the other way around. Morons or those living in a cocoon for the last 25 years might need liberal fact-checking, but most of us don't.

We don't need fact-checking to know Hillary Clinton is a corrupt, serial-lying, money launderer. We know it from IRS records, State department pay-to-play, evidence destruction, and accomplices pleading the 5th amendment.

We don't need fact-checking to know Hillary Clinton is a despicable being; enabling a predator; orchestrating the demonizing and destruction of victims of sexual assault and harassment.

We don't need fact-checking to know Hillary Clinton has a private side - when she is giving 92 speeches to Wall St firms for tens of millions of dollars; and a public side, when she is lying to the American people about her own wealth creation and her deceitful position concerning investment banks and hedge funds.

We don't need fact-checking to know that obamaKare is a complete disaster; the largest legislative and administrative fuck-up in the history of the nation, and also the biggest lie ever sold to the public by one party. She supports this train wreck, we know it.

We don't need fact-checking to know that everything she touched in the Middle East is burning. Her record of failures is just that, a record; one that we know.

We don't need fact-checking to know that she deliberately lied to the families of those killed in Benghazi (because of her ineptness), and she lied to the American people about it, again, and again.

We don't need fact-checking to know that her open borders and amnesty are not in the best interest of our national defense.

We don't need fact-checking to know that her own party and campaign is designed to keep the masses "uninformed and compliant".

We don't need fact-checking to know that she was let off the hook by the FBI and the obama Justice Department for purely political reasons.

We don't need fact-checking to know that she should be going to jail for (purposefully) mishandling classified information, just the like the Marine sergeant who is heading to jail for merely taking a few pictures of his submarine to show his family. We don't need fact-checking to understand this unconscionable double standard.

We don't need fact-checking to know that we have zero economic growth and her policies will never turn that around.

We don't need fact-checking to know that she will continue to use the EPA as the radical leftist's weapon of choice to crush our energy output.

We don't need fact-checking to know that she will nominate radical leftists to the supreme court who will legislate from the bench for liberal causes, and to hell with the Constitution.

We don't need fact-checking to know that the national debt has doubled to $20 trillion under obama, and she is obama III.

We don't need fact-checking to know that our country is in serious trouble and it is headed in the wrong direction, as 70% of the public knows.

We don't need fact-checking to know that our inner cities are disasters and the public education system that is entrenched therein, yet she wants and will deliver, more of the same.

We don't need fact-checking to know she is on the wrong side of every major issue and challenge we face.

Maybe some jackasses need fact-checking, and will politely suck up every lie she utters and do as she says and go to hillaryclintion.com for your propaganda bath, but most people know exactly what the hell is going on and are going to vote accordingly.

Good luck.
You could just say "I don't need fact-checking!" and everyone would understand, since that encapsulates your entire posting strategy.