ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Oct 5, 2016 10:55am
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/wikileaks-confirms-hillary-sold-weapons-isis-drops-another-bombshell-breaking-news/like_that;1813820 wrote:I see nothing about this.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Oct 5, 2016 10:56am
Well I don't think you're completely wrong, but I will call bullshit on Trump/Pence only denying stuff taken out of context. He's said plenty of shit about Russia and abortion and women etc.. that they're both trying to backtrack on and are failing miserably doing so.sleeper;1813835 wrote:The issue isn't denying what he's saying; he's denying the context in which they are being used. Pence makes a good point here; Trump has said some stupid shit but a lot of it is sound byted to death and taken out of context.
The debate sucked but overall I'd give the slight edge to Pence. Kaine was a complete jackass up there and Pence was very stable and composed. The only issue with Pence is I know too much about his background and he's a complete nut job but he handled the debate well.
Why did Hillary pick Kaine? No one better?
The Kaine pick was always a head scratcher. The only thing I could ever come up with was Hillary was so confident she'd win that she could go with the most vanilla pick ever.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 5, 2016 11:01am
Because this election is not about truth or substance.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1813832 wrote:Watched the highlights of the debate... my only question is... why does Trump and Pence think they can deny what Trump has said. It's 2016. there's audio and video of everything. You look like an idiot when you deny stuff that you're recorded doing.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Oct 5, 2016 11:04am
This election is the strangest thing I've ever seen. It's very surreal. It's like one of those dreams you have and go.. good thing that would never happen. ..but it is happening. I can guarantee one thing... you'll never see another election with both candidates as bad as this.like_that;1813839 wrote:Because this election is not about truth or substance.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Oct 5, 2016 11:10am
Well, there is a slight difference between "dude has smoking gun; ready to unload it" and "dude alleges he has smoking gun; site that only QQ would find trustworthy says".
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 5, 2016 11:12am
Well Hillary will be the candidate in 4 years so you have that.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1813841 wrote:This election is the strangest thing I've ever seen. It's very surreal. It's like one of those dreams you have and go.. good thing that would never happen. ..but it is happening. I can guarantee one thing... you'll never see another election with both candidates as bad as this.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 5, 2016 11:13am
Yeah exactly. Until it comes straight from Wikileaks I'm calling bullshit.Heretic;1813842 wrote:Well, there is a slight difference between "dude has smoking gun; ready to unload it" and "dude alleges he has smoking gun; site that only QQ would find trustworthy says".
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Oct 5, 2016 11:14am
I don't typically give the GOP much credit, but I have faith they can find someone better than Donald fucking Trump next time.like_that;1813843 wrote:Well Hillary will be the candidate in 4 years so you have that.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 5, 2016 11:29am
True. Trump has said some really dumb shit IN context and OUT of context that defending all of it is literally impossible.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1813838 wrote:Well I don't think you're completely wrong, but I will call bullshit on Trump/Pence only denying stuff taken out of context. He's said plenty of shit about Russia and abortion and women etc.. that they're both trying to backtrack on and are failing miserably doing so.
The Kaine pick was always a head scratcher. The only thing I could ever come up with was Hillary was so confident she'd win that she could go with the most vanilla pick ever.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Oct 5, 2016 11:34am
The troubling thing is the media taking his quotes out of context and running with it like Isidore is writing the headlines.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 5, 2016 11:55am
Mike Pence is a solid citizen, and a good governor.
Tim Kaine was picked for one reason: Virginia.
Tim Kaine was picked for one reason: Virginia.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Oct 5, 2016 12:40pm
hes a nutbagQuakerOats;1813850 wrote:Mike Pence is a solid citizen, and a good governor.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Oct 5, 2016 12:43pm
If he were the first name on the ticket the Pubs may have had a fighting chance at my vote.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 5, 2016 12:56pm
Mike Pence doesn't think women or gays deserve human rights.QuakerOats;1813850 wrote:Mike Pence is a solid citizen, and a good governor.
Tim Kaine was picked for one reason: Virginia.
Hard for me to call someone like that "good". He's a bigot POS.
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wkfan
Posts: 1,641
Oct 5, 2016 12:58pm
So, he is Islamic?sleeper;1813856 wrote:Mike Pence doesn't think women or gays deserve human rights.
Hard for me to call someone like that "good". He's a bigot POS.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 5, 2016 1:07pm
Correct. Any belief in religion is backwards and idiotic.wkfan;1813857 wrote:So, he is Islamic?
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Oct 5, 2016 1:43pm
What human right is he denying women?sleeper;1813856 wrote:Mike Pence doesn't think women or gays deserve human rights.
Hard for me to call someone like that "good". He's a bigot POS.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Oct 5, 2016 1:46pm
If a person wants to believe, no biggie. If a person wants to use their PERSONAL belief as the foundation of their legislation while holding a public office, so countless people can be affected by their ability to pick and choose which verses in their holy book are deserving of becoming law, they deserve failure.sleeper;1813859 wrote:Correct. Any belief in religion is backwards and idiotic.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Oct 5, 2016 1:50pm
my guess would be his retarded anti abortion policies.superman;1813865 wrote:What human right is he denying women?
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Oct 5, 2016 2:00pm
The nerve of him. What kind of asshole tries to make it harder on women to kill babies. Shame on him.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1813867 wrote:my guess would be his retarded anti abortion policies.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Oct 5, 2016 2:06pm
I suppose I should preface by saying I don't like him and think he would be a poor presence in the White House.sleeper;1813856 wrote:Mike Pence doesn't think women or gays deserve human rights.
Hard for me to call someone like that "good". He's a bigot POS.
However, denying someone a single right isn't the same as suggesting they shouldn't have human rights as a whole. Just for the purpose of accuracy, he doesn't advocate mass extermination or anything.
Still, as a candidate, his brand of social policy dances between authoritarian and just stupid.
From a cultural shaming standpoint, I wouldn't even have an issue with him being called out to defend the religious views he holds. If he feels so strongly about other people acting in accordance with them, surely he knows why he holds them, right?Heretic;1813866 wrote:If a person wants to believe, no biggie. If a person wants to use their PERSONAL belief as the foundation of their legislation while holding a public office, so countless people can be affected by their ability to pick and choose which verses in their holy book are deserving of becoming law, they deserve failure.
The "retarded" part is actually ironic, given the topic. Wasn't he the one who passed a law involving fetuses that would be born with disabilities?ZWICK 4 PREZ;1813867 wrote:my guess would be his retarded anti abortion policies.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 5, 2016 2:13pm
The ability to make her own health and life choices.superman;1813865 wrote:What human right is he denying women?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 5, 2016 2:17pm
I don't really want to get into an abortion debate.superman;1813869 wrote:The nerve of him. What kind of asshole tries to make it harder on women to kill babies. Shame on him.
It's important for the health and safety of women to be legally allowed to remove a cluster of cells from their body if they choose to do so. This is not killing babies; this is about women's health and women's rights.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 5, 2016 2:18pm
Also Roe v. Wade happened. Making it harder for women to make a decision on their own health against a constitutionally defended ruling makes Mike Pence and his followers the asshole.
The GOP will continue to lose elections until they grow up and get out of the stone age.
The GOP will continue to lose elections until they grow up and get out of the stone age.
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wkfan
Posts: 1,641
Oct 5, 2016 2:20pm
Hmmmm...health and safety.....sleeper;1813874 wrote:I don't really want to get into an abortion debate.
It's important for the health and safety of women to be legally allowed to remove a cluster of cells from their body if they choose to do so. This is not killing babies; this is about women's health and women's rights.
Certainly not for the unborn child.
Convenience, yes. Health and safety....not often.