I doubt it as well. Congress will be all blue in 2 years unless the GOP grows up.

sleeper;1820528 wrote:I doubt it as well. Congress will be all blue in 2 years unless the GOP grows up.

The HOR won't even sniff blue for 6-8 more years unless the SCOTUS steps in on districting.

gut;1820524 wrote:Doubtful. Barring a "Nixon moment", Repubs will never have anywhere near 2/3 vote in the Senate to do that. Hillary is too good at covering her tracks, and been perfecting her craft for 30+ years.

Impeachment is not the same as removal from office. Impeachment is = to indictment in the court system. All it means is that a trial will happen. That Senate trial is what decides removal. So HRC could be impeached but not removed (like Bill and Andrew Jackson before). I've also said multiple times that if that happens there's no way she's found guilty in the Senate trial.

sleeper;1820515 wrote:The estimate is 22 million votes had been cast before this news came out.

It's not going to make a difference. It'll be President Clinton in a week.

I understand the thought of President Trump infuriates you, but let's do some math regarding your "not going to make a difference" statement.

Roughly 120,000,000 will cast Presidential ballots. You claim 22,000,000 have already voted. Fine, no quibble here. Doing the math, That leaves 98,000,000 voters who have NOT cast ballots. Using a ballpark of 45% being Hilliary voters, that equates to about 44,000,000. If 33% are considering a change, that's about 14,000,000 voters who have yet to vote.

Sorry, but 14 million IS a very significant number and if 33% of these folks flip, that's a net delta of about 10,000,000 votes. The math does not support your opinion.

BGFalcons82;1820532 wrote:If 33% are considering a change, that's about 14,000,000 voters who have yet to vote.

5% switching because of this would be a huge number, and probably still not enough to erase her lead.

gut;1820533 wrote:5% switching because of this would be a huge number, and probably still not enough to erase her lead.

Hmmm...the latest polling shows the race within the MOE....and that's not including Friday's gift from the FBI. This race is in complete upheaval and there are some on here claiming it's over. As Lee would say, "Not so fast.."

I'm honestly starting to think Trump wins the Popular Vote by a slim margin and Hillary wins the EC

FWIW....

Rasmussen released a poll that was done October 26th thru October 30th that has Hillary +3

Jedbartlet is gibby. IPs match?0

BGFalcons82;1820532 wrote:I understand the thought of President Trump infuriates you, but let's do some math regarding your "not going to make a difference" statement.

Roughly 120,000,000 will cast Presidential ballots. You claim 22,000,000 have already voted. Fine, no quibble here. Doing the math, That leaves 98,000,000 voters who have NOT cast ballots. Using a ballpark of 45% being Hilliary voters, that equates to about 44,000,000. If 33% are considering a change, that's about 14,000,000 voters who have yet to vote.

Sorry, but 14 million IS a very significant number and if 33% of these folks flip, that's a net delta of about 10,000,000 votes. The math does not support your opinion.

Trump invested no money into a ground game; he's going to get absolutely smashed on election day.

Who cares about 'my math'? Reality is, HRC could shoot a bystandered in Times Square and she'd still win the election in a landslide.

Time for the GOP to grow up.

sleeper;1820550 wrote:Reality is, HRC could shoot a bystandered in Times Square and she'd still win the election in a landslide.

Oddly, the "D"s would defend her right to do so, but not yours or mine.

BGFalcons82;1820535 wrote:Hmmm...the latest polling shows the race within the MOE....and that's not including Friday's gift from the FBI. This race is in complete upheaval and there are some on here claiming it's over. As Lee would say, "Not so fast.."

But usually when all the polls have Hillary up within the MOE, Trump is going to be lucky to take half of them (and he needs most to win the election).

5% could make a difference, but probably not because, as Sleeper said, Trump's ground game is going to yield a sad turnout. And, no, the primaries - where only about 1/6 of the voters participate - are not an indicator otherwise.

gut;1820569 wrote:But usually when all the polls have Hillary up within the MOE, Trump is going to be lucky to take half of them (and he needs most to win the election).

5% could make a difference, but probably not because, as Sleeper said, Trump's ground game is going to yield a sad turnout. And, no, the primaries - where only about 1/6 of the voters participate - are not an indicator otherwise.

You may have just hit the nail on the head sir....

That is why I believe many Democrats are still confident that Hillary is going to win

like_that;1820541 wrote:Jedbartlet is gibby. IPs match?0

It's possible. Gibby was allin for the Dems. I never paid much attention to his posting style to know if it's the same as Jed's.

like_that;1820541 wrote:Jedbartlet is gibby. IPs match?0

Yes....I'm gibby

Trump + 4 in LA Times daily tracking, big jump and without any of the pre-FBI skew.
Clinton jumps to 60% unfavorable, worse than Trump, and that number will continue to grow.
She may well be toast, which indeed she should be. Honest people cannot elect a criminal.

Ok....I know some people aren't fond of me here

But I've had to improved enough to be better than QO now right?

According to former Jimmy Carter pollster Pat Caddell, Hillary Clinton is hemorrhaging support as a result of the FBI announcement and we could see a repeat of the 1980 election when anti-establishment candidate Ronald Reagan won in a landslide.
Stating that he had been looking at the data regarding unfavorability ratings for both Clinton and Trump, Caddell noted that since Friday, large numbers of voters had been structurally “moving against the status quo – the incumbent who is essentially Hillary Clinton.”
As an ABC News poll found, Hillary’s unfavorability rating just hit its highest ever mark.
Caddell said that the latest information regarding the FBI re-opening its investigation into Hillary’s email scandal was the &#8220opper” that “could open up significantly before it’s over,” meaning it would be the decisive factor that enables Trump to defeat Hillary.




Caddell has always been a pretty decent guy

QuakerOats;1820583 wrote:According to former Jimmy Carter pollster Pat Caddell, Hillary Clinton is hemorrhaging support as a result of the FBI announcement and we could see a repeat of the 1980 election when anti-establishment candidate Ronald Reagan won in a landslide.
Stating that he had been looking at the data regarding unfavorability ratings for both Clinton and Trump, Caddell noted that since Friday, large numbers of voters had been structurally “moving against the status quo – the incumbent who is essentially Hillary Clinton.”
As an ABC News poll found, Hillary’s unfavorability rating just hit its highest ever mark.
Caddell said that the latest information regarding the FBI re-opening its investigation into Hillary’s email scandal was the &#8220opper” that “could open up significantly before it’s over,” meaning it would be the decisive factor that enables Trump to defeat Hillary.




Caddell has always been a pretty decent guy

Try not getting your information from infowars.com

gut;1820569 wrote:But usually when all the polls have Hillary up within the MOE, Trump is going to be lucky to take half of them (and he needs most to win the election).

5% could make a difference, but probably not because, as Sleeper said, Trump's ground game is going to yield a sad turnout. And, no, the primaries - where only about 1/6 of the voters participate - are not an indicator otherwise.

Trump's base is significantly more enthusiastic and motivated than Hillary's out of the blocks...and a much lower percentage need a ride to the polls in the first place.

Her ground game will help her keep it close...that's about it.

275-263. Trump wins.

jedbartlet02;1820575 wrote:Yes....I'm gibby

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And the point of that was?

jedbartlet02;1820585 wrote:Try not getting your information from infowars.com

The information is Pat Caddell's; I know you don't like it, but he is a well-respected pollster. Keep shooting the messengers though.

QuakerOats;1820593 wrote:The information is Pat Caddell's; I know you don't like it, but he is a well-respected pollster. Keep shooting the messengers though.

And he's a Republican who's always hated the Clinton's.

What do you expect him to say?

jedbartlet02;1820597 wrote:And he's a Republican who's always hated the Clinton's.

What do you expect him to say?

He's a lifelong democrat, dude.

He's worked on six different POTUS campaigns...McGovern, Carter 2X, Joe Biden and Jerry Brown.