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Jul 26, 2016 11:26 AM
like_that;1804434 wrote:Yes because liberals surely weren't watching the RNC and crying the whole time.

I haven't watched a minute of either. They are both glorified pep rallies. I did see some highlights and the sellout Bernie gave his final desperate push for hillary. Also I saw Michelle Obama wasted no time reminding people the WH was built by slaves. Divide and conquer must live on.
This. I have a social life and friends; no time to watch pep rallies so I can praise one party and condemn the other for essentially doing the exact same thing for four days.
Jul 26, 2016 11:26am
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Jul 26, 2016 11:32 AM
Spock;1804477 wrote:So instead of a firm leader that will stand up for what is good for the US, you want the wife of the guy that basically ignored the worlds problems (middle eastern terrorist), the secretary of state that did a horrible job with Russia and China and North Korea and Syria and Iraq and Lybia. Wow you sound like Ptwon when he voted for Obama on all his foreign policy experience (which was zero)
If by "stand up for what is good for the US", you mean "a guy who will send out a ton of really bitchy tweets whenever he doesn't get his way", I totes agree!
Jul 26, 2016 11:32am
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Jul 26, 2016 11:35 AM
He is getting out fund raised 42-1 and is leading by 4 points in the poll. What he says on Twitter and Facebook is working. You don't become as successful as him without knowing what the fuck you are doing. Go ahead and list his failures(steaks, vodka, planes, etc) at the end of the day hes still way ahead. I'm tired of this narrative. Find something better.
Jul 26, 2016 11:35am
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Jul 26, 2016 11:38 AM
MAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Jul 26, 2016 11:38am
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Jul 26, 2016 11:49 AM
Spock;1804477 wrote:So instead of a firm leader that will stand up for what is good for the US, you want the wife of the guy that basically ignored the worlds problems (middle eastern terrorist), the secretary of state that did a horrible job with Russia and China and North Korea and Syria and Iraq and Lybia. Wow you sound like Ptwon when he voted for Obama on all his foreign policy experience (which was zero)
The irony of course is Trump not only has no foreign policy experience but also a lack of political experience.

You're being overtly critical of Obama because he is a Democrat. That is the reality.
Jul 26, 2016 11:49am
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Jul 26, 2016 11:50 AM
bases_loaded;1804488 wrote:He is getting out fund raised 42-1 and is leading by 4 points in the poll. What he says on Twitter and Facebook is working. You don't become as successful as him without knowing what the fuck you are doing. Go ahead and list his failures(steaks, vodka, planes, etc) at the end of the day hes still way ahead. I'm tired of this narrative. Find something better.
He's flat out one of the dumbest people I have ever listened to. He doesn't have a clue on how the political world works.

That's the narrative. That's the reality.
Jul 26, 2016 11:50am
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Jul 26, 2016 11:51 AM
The masses who incessantly shat on "Hope and Change" are now all about MAGA. :laugh:

The reality is, there are lots of suckers out there who are easily convinced with broad statements and bluster.
Jul 26, 2016 11:51am
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Jul 26, 2016 11:53 AM
sleeper;1804493 wrote:He's flat out one of the dumbest people I have ever listened to. He doesn't have a clue on how the political world works.

That's the narrative. That's the reality.
The way the political world works? You mean get bought and legislate for cash? The problems he described(the "dark and gloomy message) fact checked out. The world is a mess, we can either continue to be "political" or we can start leading. I'd rather see 4 years of something new than 8 more of the same. Those 8 years also ensures the USA becomes the USSA. What is it right now..48%? On government subsidies? All this while politicians are MILLIONAIRES. Hell revolutionist Bernie was bought with by use of a private plane and speech fees.
Jul 26, 2016 11:53am
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Jul 26, 2016 11:58 AM
If the dems were smart, they should declare war on ISIS today. That will surely stop them.
Jul 26, 2016 11:58am
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Jul 26, 2016 11:59 AM
Deporting illegal immigrants became - Trump hates immigrants.
Temporary ban on muslim immigrants till a better background check is available - Trump hates Muslims.

All this while crime is up and around the world and even here muslim extremist are committing vile acts of terrorism.
Jul 26, 2016 11:59am
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Jul 26, 2016 12:02 PM
Yeah, it's a very difficult situation. One I don't believe Trump or Hillary will be able to handle effectively.
Jul 26, 2016 12:02pm
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Jul 26, 2016 12:08 PM
Automatik;1804494 wrote:The masses who incessantly shat on "Hope and Change" are now all about MAGA. :laugh:

The reality is, there are lots of suckers out there who are easily convinced with broad statements and bluster.
That's what happens when you have a lazy country full of dumbasses who'd rather make their decisions based off which candidate has the most entertaining sound bites than actually doing any deep research. Or simple blind partisanship, which is why the people who dissed "hope and change" are jizzing themselves over making America great again.

The sad reality is that the only reason the loud dipshit has a good chance of being president is because the Ds couldn't find anyone better than the crooked career politician who has all the charisma of a second-grade teacher lecturing the remedial class. Conversely, the only reason she has a good chance is because the Rs picked the loud asshole with no filter or self-control.
Jul 26, 2016 12:08pm
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Jul 26, 2016 12:20 PM
bases_loaded;1804495 wrote:The way the political world works? You mean get bought and legislate for cash? The problems he described(the "dark and gloomy message) fact checked out. The world is a mess, we can either continue to be "political" or we can start leading. I'd rather see 4 years of something new than 8 more of the same. Those 8 years also ensures the USA becomes the USSA. What is it right now..48%? On government subsidies? All this while politicians are MILLIONAIRES. Hell revolutionist Bernie was bought with by use of a private plane and speech fees.
No. He doesn't understand what nuclear proliferation means and wants Japan and South Korea to get their own nukes. He doesn't understand that Mexico isn't going to pay for any wall(the wall itself is dumb as shit too); he doesn't understand that NATO is not a treaty designed to be "wait and see" but rather a promise to defend those who signed the treaty. If Trump thinks he can bully nations into complying with his dog shit, then he's completely delusional.

Again, that is the reality. Trump is an idiot at best.
Jul 26, 2016 12:20pm
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Jul 26, 2016 12:23 PM
Automatik;1804499 wrote:If the dems were smart, they should declare war on ISIS today. That will surely stop them.
the sad thing is Hillary will.
Jul 26, 2016 12:23pm
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Jul 26, 2016 12:31 PM
sleeper;1804492 wrote:The irony of course is Trump not only has no foreign policy experience but also a lack of political experience.

You're being overtly critical of Obama because he is a Democrat. That is the reality.
obama had no experience either, politically or internationally. Political experience is overrrated. At least Trump has world experience and has sat in board rooms all over the world with many of the people that make this world go round
Jul 26, 2016 12:31pm
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Jul 26, 2016 12:32 PM
Who are these people you speak of "that make this world go round"?
Jul 26, 2016 12:32pm
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Jul 26, 2016 12:34 PM
sleeper;1804509 wrote:No. He doesn't understand what nuclear proliferation means and wants Japan and South Korea to get their own nukes. He doesn't understand that Mexico isn't going to pay for any wall(the wall itself is dumb as shit too); he doesn't understand that NATO is not a treaty designed to be "wait and see" but rather a promise to defend those who signed the treaty. If Trump thinks he can bully nations into complying with his dog shit, then he's completely delusional.

Again, that is the reality. Trump is an idiot at best.
"Wait and see" is Obamas main tactic
Jul 26, 2016 12:34pm
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Jul 26, 2016 12:34 PM
Spock;1804511 wrote:obama had no experience either, politically or internationally. Political experience is overrrated. At least Trump has world experience and has sat in board rooms all over the world with many of the people that make this world go round
Still zero political experience for Trump. At least Obama was a Senator.

Careful, your hypocrisy is showing.
Jul 26, 2016 12:34pm
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Jul 26, 2016 12:34 PM
Automatik;1804512 wrote:Who are these people you speak of "that make this world go round"?
you really have to ask? I will give you a hint, its not politicians.
Jul 26, 2016 12:34pm
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Jul 26, 2016 12:35 PM
Spock;1804513 wrote:"Wait and see" is Obamas main tactic
When it comes to NATO, it isn't.

The whole purpose of NATO is to deter conflict because the alliance will defend each other. Trump came out and said he will evaluate any aggression before acting which undermines the alliance and increases the likelihood of conflict.

In other words, Trump doesn't know what he's talking about and you want him as President.
Jul 26, 2016 12:35pm
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Jul 26, 2016 12:37 PM
Spock;1804515 wrote:you really have to ask? I will give you a hint, its not politicians.
Ok, but who?
Jul 26, 2016 12:37pm
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Jul 26, 2016 12:37 PM
Automatik;1804512 wrote:Who are these people you speak of "that make this world go round"?
Bilderbergers
Jul 26, 2016 12:37pm
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Jul 26, 2016 12:39 PM
sleeper;1804467 wrote:I thought this was strange. Warren did the same thing calling 'divide and conquer' a Republican idea when the reality is Democrats win by that strategy.

I mean class politics, identity politics, and racism are all perpetuated by Democratic politicians.
gosh a ruddies what she said was both true and complimentary to our country.
"That is the story of this country, the story that has brought me to this stage tonight, the story of generations of people who felt the lash of bondage, the shame of servitude, the sting of segregation, but who kept on striving and hoping and doing what needed to be done so that today, I wake up every morning in a house that was built by slaves — and I watch my daughters — two beautiful, intelligent, black young women — playing with their dogs on the White House lawn. And because of Hillary Clinton, my daughters — and all our sons and daughters — now take for granted that a woman can be President of the United States.So don't let anyone ever tell you that this country isn't great, that somehow we need to make it great again. Because this, right now, is the greatest country on earth."
what is she saying that One reason why we are the greatest country is because we could make that progress, that is a compliment.
Jul 26, 2016 12:39pm
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Jul 26, 2016 12:40 PM
Automatik;1804512 wrote:Who are these people you speak of "that make this world go round"?
You'll have to wait until Trump specifically says who they are, since CC only parrots the exact stuff he says, so he's still waiting on that info himself.
Jul 26, 2016 12:40pm