like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 20, 2016 11:57am
So his plan won't cost 19 trillion?ZWICK 4 PREZ;1776933 wrote:I ignored your post because you blatantly lied and misrepresented your chart as Washington Post when a 3 second google search shows Washington Examiner which, yes, is a conservative hack site.
CNN is the same as msnbc, fox, cbs.. except slightly worse because they're heavily in the tank for Hillary.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jan 20, 2016 12:00pm
like_that;1776934 wrote:So his plan won't cost 19 trillion?
No one knows what his tax hike is and who it affects because he hasn't released details. I've seen 19.6. I've seen 15. It's all conjecture at this point. But I do love hearing how all of you already know what it is lol. It is very entertaining.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 20, 2016 12:02pm
So basically you are voting for him based on ideology. That's always a great idea /sarcasm.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1776935 wrote:No one knows what his tax hike is and who it affects because he hasn't released details. I've seen 19.6. I've seen 15. It's all conjecture at this point. But I do love hearing how all of you already know what it is lol. It is very entertaining.
Keep back pedaling when logic is thrown at you though. It is very entertaining.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jan 20, 2016 12:03pm
There's one thing we all know.. there will be a tax hike. It will affect everyone including middle class. He's admitted this as so. He says it will only slightly burden the middle class and heavily weight on the top bracket..
We will see won't we?
We will see won't we?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 20, 2016 12:03pm
Dodge much?ZWICK 4 PREZ;1776928 wrote:The bigger issue is with congress he doesn't have a chance to do a fraction of what he wants to do.
You're essentially like the hundreds of thousands of liberals out there that think huge tax hikes on "billionaires" is the solution to fixing our debt problem and funding other liberal agendas set forth by our socialist president.
None of it will work. But if you keep screaming Bernie loud enough because he had a few good talking points in debates and campaigns (stop me if you've heard that recently cough cough Obama), maybe you'll get your man in the office. Only problem is soon as he's there, none of what he's saying will ever happen and if a few do, they won't fix the problem it's supposed to fix (again, stop me if you've heard that recently..).
Open your eyes zwick.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jan 20, 2016 12:04pm
I'm voting for him because his values/ideas align with mine.. which is how you're supposed to vote. Do you vote differently?like_that;1776937 wrote:So basically you are voting for him based on ideology. That's always a great idea /sarcasm.
Keep back pedaling when logic is thrown at you though. It is very entertaining.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jan 20, 2016 12:05pm
Dude trust me... you're even more clueless on politics than you are on basketball.. move along.SportsAndLady;1776939 wrote:Dodge much?
You're essentially like the hundreds of thousands of liberals out there that think huge tax hikes on "billionaires" is the solution to fixing our debt problem and funding other liberal agendas set forth by our socialist president.
None of it will work. But if you keep screaming Bernie loud enough because he had a few good talking points in debates and campaigns (stop me if you've heard that recently cough cough Obama), maybe you'll get your man in the office. Only problem is soon as he's there, none of what he's saying will ever happen and if a few do, they won't fix the problem it's supposed to fix (again, stop me if you've heard that recently..).
Open your eyes zwick.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 20, 2016 12:06pm
Everyone? How will the poor be effected when they have no income to tax? LolZWICK 4 PREZ;1776938 wrote:There's one thing we all know.. there will be a tax hike. It will affect everyone including middle class. He's admitted this as so. He says it will only slightly burden the middle class and heavily weight on the top bracket..
We will see won't we?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 20, 2016 12:07pm
It's not politics dumbass. It's economics.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1776941 wrote:Dude trust me... you're even more clueless on politics than you are on basketball.. move along.
You're getting sucked into bernies shit because you read HuffPo and browse Reddit.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jan 20, 2016 12:08pm
lololololSportsAndLady;1776942 wrote:Everyone? How will the poor be effected when they have no income to tax? Lol
we wouldn't feel the tax burden of subsidizing their defaulted medical claims would be the biggest tackling point... as I said.. move along.. you're clueless
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 20, 2016 12:09pm
I do, but I also don't live in a delusional ideological world, so the approach actually works for me.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1776940 wrote:I'm voting for him because his values/ideas align with mine.. which is how you're supposed to vote. Do you vote differently?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 20, 2016 12:11pm
Basically if you read Fox News and Drudge, you're QO. If you read HuffPo and MSNBC, you're zwick.like_that;1776945 wrote:I do, but I also don't live in a delusional ideological world, so the approach actually works for me.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 20, 2016 12:11pm
There it is. I was wondering when zwick was going to play the "I know more than you, so I am right" card. Took longer than usual.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1776941 wrote:Dude trust me... you're even more clueless on politics than you are on basketball.. move along.
Now watch as zwick continues to deflect (by acting superior to al) instead of legitimately answering a logic based question.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jan 20, 2016 12:11pm
like_that;1776945 wrote:I do, but I also don't live in a delusional ideological world, so the approach actually works for me.
congrats. feel free to proceed and live your completely sane and logical life elsewhere :RpS_mellow:
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jan 20, 2016 12:12pm
which is what you just did by saying "but I also don't live in a delusional ideological world, so the approach actually works for me"..like_that;1776947 wrote:There it is. I was wondering when zwick was going to play the "I know more than you, so I am right" card. Took longer than usual.
Now watch as zwick continues to deflect (by acting superior to al) instead of legitimately answering a logic based question.
hypocrite much?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 20, 2016 12:12pm
I will admit, I read huffpo from time to time. It makes it very easy to predict which talking point a liberal is going to spew on me when we have a discussion.SportsAndLady;1776946 wrote:Basically if you read Fox News and Drudge, you're QO. If you read HuffPo and MSNBC, you're zwick.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jan 20, 2016 12:14pm
I wish more people did this instead of the partisan, blind following that politics has turned into. I respect people who do so.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1776940 wrote:I'm voting for him because his values/ideas align with mine.. which is how you're supposed to vote. Do you vote differently?
I disagree with almost everything that Sanders espouses but have no problem with people voting for him if he reflects their views. It's exactly why I will vote for Santorum, even if he has no shot at winning the nom.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 20, 2016 12:16pm
Completely different than saying "I know more than you, so I am right." You seem to be knowledgable but I will explain it for you.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1776950 wrote:which is what you just did by saying "but I also don't live in a delusional ideological world, so the approach actually works for me"..
hypocrite much?
It is in my opinion that most liberal ideas fall into their ideology and when it is actually applied in real life the ideas come crashing down. Most of what sanders is spewing is ideology that sounds great but most likely has no chance of working. You have an ideological outlook, thus your views would line up with somebody who has an ideological outlook as well.
If that still doesn't make sense to you, then I don't know what to tell you. Ask your wife.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jan 20, 2016 12:19pm
yeah completely different. you completely didn't say I'm right and your wrong and what I do works and what you do doesn't. :RpS_mellow:like_that;1776954 wrote:Completely different than saying "I know more than you, so I am right." You seem to be knowledgable but I will explain it for you.
It is in my opinion that most liberal ideas fall into their ideology and when it is actually applied in real life the ideas come crashing down. Most of what sanders is spewing is ideology that sounds great but most likely has no chance of working. You have an ideological outlook, thus your views would line up with somebody who has an ideological outlook as well.
If that still doesn't make sense to you, then I don't know what to tell you. Ask your wife.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 20, 2016 12:21pm
I didn't, but if that's what will make yourself feel better good for you.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1776955 wrote:yeah completely different. you completely didn't say I'm right and your wrong and what I do works and what you do doesn't. :RpS_mellow:
You're more than welcome to answer the question presented to you. Feel free to prove everyone wrong.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jan 20, 2016 12:22pm
That is, as they say, what makes the world turn.Con_Alma;1776952 wrote:I wish more people did this instead of the partisan, blind following that politics has turned into. I respect people who do so.
I disagree with almost everything that Sanders espouses but have no problem with people voting for him if he reflects their views. It's exactly why I will vote for Santorum, even if he has no shot at winning the nom.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jan 20, 2016 12:24pm
I would but I'd just hate to expose you to any delusional ideologies. Id hate for your voting practices to become impractical.like_that;1776956 wrote:I didn't, but if that's what will make yourself feel better good for you.
You're more than welcome to answer the question presented to you. Feel free to prove everyone wrong.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 20, 2016 12:30pm
So you have nothing? Got it.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1776958 wrote:I would but I'd just hate to expose you to any delusional ideologies. Id hate for your voting practices to become impractical.
Feel free to bring some logic to the table.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jan 20, 2016 12:35pm
like_that;1776959 wrote:So you have nothing? Got it.
Feel free to bring some logic to the table.
What exactly would you like me to respond to specifically? That's his plans have no chance of working or liberals ideology's "come crashing down" when faced with reality? The ambiguity of the latter makes it impossible to address for one... do you have specific ones you'd like to discuss?
His plans certainly do have a chance of working. Will it work with the current congress? Nope.. no chance in hell. If republicans lose the senate does it? Hard telling but I'd venture a yes. Remember, we were told ACA had no chance in hell also.. where does that stand now?
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Jan 20, 2016 12:44pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1776933 wrote:I ignored your post because you blatantly lied and misrepresented your chart as Washington Post when a 3 second google search shows Washington Examiner which, yes, is a conservative hack site.
CNN is the same as msnbc, fox, cbs.. except slightly worse because they're heavily in the tank for Hillary.
Blatantly lied? Come on Zwick, I had it on my laptop as a jpg and said I THOUGHT it was from Wash Post. I never said for sure because I couldn't remember.