Republican debates/primaries.

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queencitybuckeye
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Mar 15, 2016 4:03pm
rrfan;1786890 wrote:This is so inaccurate it is not even funny.
The first part is accurate. The second is hyperbole. Do you know what that means?
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QuakerOats
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Mar 15, 2016 5:14pm
sleeper;1786849 wrote:.............a silver spooned egotistical asshole with no substance hold the highest office in the world.

This may be true, yet he would still be better than the totally incompetent jackass in the WH now and most of the other jackasses in control in DC today. He/they doubled our debt in 8 years; he/they sold out American workers; he/they did not reform entitlements; he/they allowed millions of illegals and criminals carte blanche entry into this country; and he destroyed health insurance and he has allowed federal agencies to run completely roughshod over The People.

So when I hear some on this site ostracizing 'smart people' for supporting Trump; I just simply have to laugh. It seems to me that dump people would support the status quo --- no? And smart people might say enough is enough; let's go a different route and maybe something will actually change for the good; maybe trashing the establishment in DC will be positive long-term.

I am fairly smart, and I at least know what ain't working.
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sleeper
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Mar 15, 2016 5:18pm
QuakerOats;1786915 wrote:This may be true, yet he would still be better than the totally incompetent jackass in the WH now and most of the other jackasses in control in DC today. He/they doubled our debt in 8 years; he/they sold out American workers; he/they did not reform entitlements; he/they allowed millions of illegals and criminals carte blanche entry into this country; and he destroyed health insurance and he has allowed federal agencies to run completely roughshod over The People.

So when I hear some on this site ostracizing 'smart people' for supporting Trump; I just simply have to laugh. It seems to me that dump people would support the status quo --- no? And smart people might say enough is enough; let's go a different route and maybe something will actually change for the good; maybe trashing the establishment in DC will be positive long-term.

I am fairly smart, and I at least know what ain't working.
I'm for change but I don't see how Trump is the answer. He basically just gets on stage and goes "Trust me, I'm rich" which is complete joke at best.
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HitsRus
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Mar 15, 2016 5:30pm
And smart people might say enough is enough; let's go a different route and maybe something will actually change for the good; maybe trashing the establishment in DC will be positive long-term.
You don't change for the sake of change on a maybe. You change if it is going to make it better, otherwise you could be in an even worse fix. We've had 8 years of gridlock and bickering....When I see Trump and all the negatives that he embodies, I don't see how that is going to make things better. We've spent 8 years fighting Obamacare....and Trump wants to take it a step further to a single payer.. If you are a conservative and a Republican, electing Trump is electing the enemy.
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QuakerOats
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Mar 15, 2016 5:34pm
sleeper;1786918 wrote:I'm for change but I don't see how Trump is the answer. He basically just gets on stage and goes "Trust me, I'm rich" which is complete joke at best.

I don't like some of things he says either. I wish there was a much better option. But I know for FACT that Clinton or Sanders would be 10 times worse; it would probably push us over the edge completely.
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QuakerOats
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Mar 15, 2016 5:37pm
HitsRus;1786920 wrote:You don't change for the sake of change on a maybe. You change if it is going to make it better, otherwise you could be in an even worse fix. We've had 8 years of gridlock and bickering....When I see Trump and all the negatives that he embodies, I don't see how that is going to make things better. We've spent 8 years fighting Obamacare....and Trump wants to take it a step further to a single payer.. If you are a conservative and a Republican, electing Trump is electing the enemy.
I've never been one to espouse change for the sake of change. But I know damn well that we cannot afford Clinton or Sanders pushing the socialist agenda further and pushing us completely off the cliff. At least with Trump we would have a guy who would sign legislation coming out of a semi-conservative House, so how bad can that be? With the other two, we get obama 3.0 and on and on and on ....We have no fighting chance with them; we do with Trump, albeit obviously not my favorite.
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Wolves of Babylon
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Mar 15, 2016 7:54pm
Goodbye Marco Rubio

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Spock
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Mar 15, 2016 8:15pm
Trump will have all of it
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SportsAndLady
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Mar 15, 2016 8:22pm
African Americans got Obama in the WH in 08, now the south/white trash are going to get Trump in.

Yay..
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majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Mar 15, 2016 8:27pm
Rubio is suspending his campaign.
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ts1227
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Mar 15, 2016 8:48pm
CNN just gave Ohio to Kasich
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Fab4Runner
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Mar 15, 2016 9:04pm
THANK YOU, OHIO.
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GOONx19
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Mar 15, 2016 9:09pm
Hallelujah!
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HitsRus
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Mar 15, 2016 9:31pm
...and while the last electable conservative suspends his campaign, Anonymous "declares war" on Donald Trump.
http://fortune.com/2016/03/15/anonymous-trump-donald-declare-war/


SMH....So much hope with the new election cycle and this circus is what it comes to. :(
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FatHobbit
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Mar 15, 2016 10:32pm
What happens to the delegates of the people who quit? Do they just go into limbo?
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majorspark
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Mar 15, 2016 10:54pm
FatHobbit;1787014 wrote:What happens to the delegates of the people who quit? Do they just go into limbo?
Only if a candidate wins a majority. In a contested convention they can be persuaded to vote as they will.
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HitsRus
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Mar 15, 2016 10:58pm
...I think they are committed on the first ballot to vote for whoever they were elected to vote for.
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majorspark
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Mar 15, 2016 11:13pm
HitsRus;1787029 wrote:...I think they are committed on the first ballot to vote for whoever they were elected to vote for.
Yes after the first round. If its contested the first round is nothing more than a formality.
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iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Mar 16, 2016 7:05am
Good news as I believe this almost guarantees a contested convention. Good for Rubio dropping out, he just had no chance. Kasich should bow out as well, but it will be interesting to see where rubios votes go. I'd assume Cruz.


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BR1986FB
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Mar 16, 2016 7:41am
SportsAndLady;1786984 wrote:African Americans got Obama in the WH in 08, now the south/white trash are going to get Trump in.

Yay..
Where I live, Trump has a fairly large group of African American supporters.
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ts1227
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Mar 16, 2016 8:22am
iclfan2;1787067 wrote:Good news as I believe this almost guarantees a contested convention. Good for Rubio dropping out, he just had no chance. Kasich should bow out as well, but it will be interesting to see where rubios votes go. I'd assume Cruz.


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Cruz might be worse than Trump. They both say crazy shit, but Trump says it for shock value. Cruz actually believes the shit coming out of his mouth.
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iclfan2
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Mar 16, 2016 9:26am
Such as? At this point it is the lesser of all evils. I'll never vote left, so that leaves these schmucks. Trump is not presidential material, and besides being anti-establishment has nothing going for him.


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SportsAndLady
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Mar 16, 2016 9:37am
Yeah Cruz isn't the best but he's a lot better than Donald fucking trump.
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QuakerOats
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Mar 16, 2016 10:36am
ts1227;1787083 wrote:Cruz might be worse than Trump. They both say crazy shit, but Trump says it for shock value. Cruz actually believes the shit coming out of his mouth.

I know, how crazy is it to say you are going to repeal obamacare, stand with the police and the military, and defend the constitution. That really is batshit crazy.
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queencitybuckeye
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Mar 16, 2016 10:39am
QuakerOats;1787125 wrote:I know, how crazy is it to say you are going to repeal obamacare, stand with the police and the military, and defend the constitution. That really is batshit crazy.
A president can't repeal anything. Most but certainly not all police nor military justify standing behind. Defending the constitution is a good thing, if you don't attempt to ignore settled law.