Republican debates/primaries.

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Automatik's avatar
Automatik
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Mar 15, 2016 2:05pm
I prefer the term bigot.
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rrfan
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Mar 15, 2016 2:06pm
Seems to be a lot of name calling on here but no answers to real questions....typical
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Mar 15, 2016 2:07pm
SnotBubbles;1786815 wrote:Why is Trump a racist?
I don't know that he is.. Only he knows if he is or not. The shit he says and does sure makes it look like he is more so than he isn't.
I'm calling you out for your ridiculous statement you made. There's no way to defend not taking an endorsement from the KKK.. then you went further down the path trying to defend that premise.
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Mar 15, 2016 2:07pm
Pretty easy to see that Trump is a racist, especially against Mexicans and Muslims. You can be a racist and like black people.

The whole KKK stuff is overblown. Trump even said his ear piece wasn't working in the interview and could barely hear the news person so he didn't hear the words KKK and didn't immediately recognize the name given either.

Anyway, Trump isn't good. He would be a disaster at best.
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Mar 15, 2016 2:08pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1786814 wrote:you literally compared a Catholic guy getting a job from a Jewish boss and a President getting support from a white supremacist group. ....And can't see where you went wrong.

You also don't think A presidential candidate should distance himself from the fucking KKK..

so .. yes... im shaking my fucking head at you.
And for the record, my post was:

"It's called strategy, and while I don't condone it...I see why Trump would take that stance."

So obviously by not condoning it I DO INDEED think he should have condemned it. I simply said I understand the strategy of not doing it right away.
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Mar 15, 2016 2:09pm
SnotBubbles;1786815 wrote:Why is Trump a racist?
Listen to him speak about Muslims and Mexicans. Is this a serious question?
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Mar 15, 2016 2:10pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1786819 wrote:I don't know that he is.. Only he knows if he is or not. The shit he says and does sure makes it look like he is more so than he isn't.
I'm calling you out for your ridiculous statement you made. There's no way to defend not taking an endorsement from the KKK.. then you went further down the path trying to defend that premise.
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Mar 15, 2016 2:11pm
sleeper;1786821 wrote:Pretty easy to see that Trump is a racist, especially against Mexicans and Muslims. You can be a racist and like black people.

The whole KKK stuff is overblown. Trump even said his ear piece wasn't working in the interview and could barely hear the news person so he didn't hear the words KKK and didn't immediately recognize the name given either.

Anyway, Trump isn't good. He would be a disaster at best.
Don't believe he is against Mexicans or Muslims just in the county illegally. Imagine that a politician that would want to live by the laws....
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Mar 15, 2016 2:22pm
rrfan;1786825 wrote:Don't believe he is against Mexicans or Muslims just in the county illegally. Imagine that a politician that would want to live by the laws....
Trump isn't the only one who talks about immigration reform so there are plenty of other candidates out there that want to stop illegal immigration. Trump's wall is the worst policy I've ever heard, ever. It would be way too costly and ineffective; and no Mexico isn't going to pay for it.

You can talk about immigration reform without denigrating entire races of people. Trump ignores this and instead drums up ignorant trash who think their problems are mexicans and muslims; similar to how a certain German politician blamed the Jews. Trump is the worst candidate in the history of the US; the worst. He would be a complete disaster if he got the White House.
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Mar 15, 2016 2:24pm
sleeper;1786835 wrote:Trump isn't the only one who talks about immigration reform so there are plenty of other candidates out there that want to stop illegal immigration. Trump's wall is the worst policy I've ever heard, ever. It would be way too costly and ineffective; and no Mexico isn't going to pay for it.

You can talk about immigration reform without denigrating entire races of people. Trump ignores this and instead drums up ignorant trash who think their problems are mexicans and muslims; similar to how a certain German politician blamed the Jews. Trump is the worst candidate in the history of the US; the worst. He would be a complete disaster if he got the White House.
Disagree I think that worst candidate in history trophy belongs to Obama
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Mar 15, 2016 2:27pm
rrfan;1786825 wrote:Don't believe he is against Mexicans or Muslims just in the county illegally. Imagine that a politician that would want to live by the laws....
Is that what he really wants, or what he says to stir up the bigots?
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Mar 15, 2016 2:30pm
queencitybuckeye;1786843 wrote:Is that what he really wants, or what he says to stir up the bigots?
Back to my 1 in 8 Americans still have some form of racism; I truly believe that Trump (a brilliant man, mind you) completely knows what he is doing. And you just hit the nail on the head. Not all Trump supporters are bigots, but most bigots are Trump supporters. I really don't believe he is a racist, it's all strategy with the man.
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Mar 15, 2016 2:35pm
rrfan;1786837 wrote:Disagree I think that worst candidate in history trophy belongs to Obama
Then you're delusional and hopefully your vote doesn't contribute to having a silver spooned egotistical asshole with no substance hold the highest office in the world.
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Mar 15, 2016 2:44pm
sleeper;1786849 wrote:Then you're delusional and hopefully your vote doesn't contribute to having a silver spooned egotistical asshole with no substance hold the highest office in the world.
Silver spoon??? really that is all you could come up with. At least say Gold you know Trump likes Gold. Silver is for second place like Cruz.
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Mar 15, 2016 2:57pm
Do you not know what "silver spoon" implies?
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Mar 15, 2016 3:06pm
Automatik;1786862 wrote:Do you not know what "silver spoon" implies?
I believe I do....inherited wealth and social status....
And I would say yes Trump did get some money from his father....however he turned it into a ton of money. So what is your point?
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Mar 15, 2016 3:22pm
Just trying to help you out. The silver spoon comment seemed to throw you off.
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Mar 15, 2016 3:26pm
rrfan;1786863 wrote:I believe I do....inherited wealth and social status....
And I would say yes Trump did get some money from his father....however he turned it into a ton of money. So what is your point?
It's not just the money. Trump basically took the name his father built and stuck it on every product for money. The Trump brand wasn't built by him but he for sure exploited it for his own gain. Good for him for capitalizing on the opportunity but as far as business goes, he was basically born on 3rd and thinks he hit a triple.

Congrats on falling for it though!
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Mar 15, 2016 3:26pm
rrfan;1786855 wrote:Silver spoon??? really that is all you could come up with. At least say Gold you know Trump likes Gold. Silver is for second place like Cruz.
Do you have a high school education?
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Mar 15, 2016 3:39pm
rrfan;1786863 wrote:I believe I do....inherited wealth and social status....
And I would say yes Trump did get some money from his father....however he turned it into a ton of money. So what is your point?
He got a lot of money and access to a whole lot more. If the same amount was invested in a fund indexed to the stock market, it would have come out about the same. IOW, he is a completely average businessman.

Got "some" money from his father. Best description I've heard is that he's Jaden Smith with a comb-over.
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Mar 15, 2016 3:51pm
sleeper;1786878 wrote:Do you have a high school education?
What makes you think I am uneducated...just so we are clear I am educated HS and College. Thank you.
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Mar 15, 2016 3:53pm
queencitybuckeye;1786886 wrote:He got a lot of money and access to a whole lot more. If the same amount was invested in a fund indexed to the stock market, it would have come out about the same. IOW, he is a completely average businessman.

Got "some" money from his father. Best description I've heard is that he's Jaden Smith with a comb-over.
This is so inaccurate it is not even funny.
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Mar 15, 2016 3:54pm
rrfan;1786888 wrote:What makes you think I am uneducated...just so we are clear I am educated HS and College. Thank you.
What college, what degree?

Also to answer your question, which should be obvious, you voted for Trump.
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Mar 15, 2016 4:00pm
rrfan;1786890 wrote:This is so inaccurate it is not even funny.
No, it's pretty accurate. He inherited around $200M from his father in 1982, which if you placed that money in an S&P index fund(the market) he would have roughly $8B. No one really knows Trump's net worth but people estimate it is between $2B-$10B largely because a lot of his money is tied up in small partnerships that make it difficult to evaluate his true worth. Not to mention, he also was appointed by his father to be President of his company, not exactly coming from nowhere without a silver spoon.

He's an "okay" businessman. There's a reason he's not releasing his tax documents because I'm fairly certain they will show he doesn't nearly have as much money as he is claiming. He's a fraud at best. Nice vote!
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Mar 15, 2016 4:03pm
Trump: My net worth fluctuates, and it goes up and down with the markets and with attitudes and with feelings, even my own feelings, but I try.

Ceresney: Let me just understand that a little. You said your net worth goes up and down based upon your own feelings?

Trump: Yes, even my own feelings, as to where the world is, where the world is going, and that can change rapidly from day to day ...

Ceresney: When you publicly state a net worth number, what do you base that number on?

Trump: I would say it's my general attitude at the time that the question may be asked. And as I say, it varies.