lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 4, 2016 10:10pm
Midstate01;1773267 wrote:There is no way this story is true. You mean to tell me nobody at the Cleveland airport saw him. He can't wear that disguise to go through security. 1) he'd never look like his ID and 2) his name is on it... there just is no way.
Yeah the thought of an NFL quarterback who comes from money flying private to vegas is completely absurd...

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 4, 2016 10:10pm
Doubt manziel flies like the rest of us peasants.Midstate01;1773267 wrote:There is no way this story is true. You mean to tell me nobody at the Cleveland airport saw him. He can't wear that disguise to go through security. 1) he'd never look like his ID and 2) his name is on it... there just is no way.

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 4, 2016 10:12pm
I doubt he's flying private jets around. Though I guess that's perfectly possible. But if so, that'd be really really easy to back check right?lhslep134;1773269 wrote:Yeah the thought of an NFL quarterback who comes from money flying private to vegas is completely absurd...

Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 4, 2016 10:12pm
Impossible that he could have put a disguise on after arriving in Vegas instead of rocking it the entire trip?

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 4, 2016 10:13pm
I wouldn't send 32 for Payton.shook_17;1773268 wrote:Saints want a 2nd round pick for Payton. If he agreed to come here would you give up the 32nd pick? I'd offer a 3rd and 5th. Them go from there
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jan 4, 2016 10:13pm
The theory of him wanting out of Cleveland becomes more and more likely by the day it seems. But shit like this will get him out of the league completely. The Cowboys keep being associated with him because Jerry Jones is an idiot when it comes to this kind of stuff. Does he have much interest from anyone else?

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 4, 2016 10:14pm
You're severely underestimating what having millions of dollars can do for you.Midstate01;1773272 wrote:I doubt he's flying private jets around. Though I guess that's perfectly possible. But if so, that'd be really really easy to back check right?

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 4, 2016 10:14pm
I'd give them a third for Brees and Payton.shook_17;1773268 wrote:Saints want a 2nd round pick for Payton. If he agreed to come here would you give up the 32nd pick? I'd offer a 3rd and 5th. Them go from there
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 4, 2016 10:15pm
Not if he's going through a company (I believe); that's the whole point of those companies.Midstate01;1773272 wrote:I doubt he's flying private jets around. Though I guess that's perfectly possible. But if so, that'd be really really easy to back check right?

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 4, 2016 10:17pm
I don't underestimate that he could have gotten there. I just don't see how he did it without anyone seeing. Even if he flew private out of some tiny airport, people saw him. It just seems unlikely to me that's all.Automatik;1773277 wrote:You're severely underestimating what having millions of dollars can do for you.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 4, 2016 10:17pm
Automatik;1773277 wrote:You're severely underestimating what having millions of dollars can do for you.
I don't think it's that expensive (relatively speaking) to get a Netjets or something. He probably dropped ~10-20,000. Just a guess though.

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 4, 2016 10:18pm
Can still track all flight logs. Remember all the plane tracking with Dan Gilbert's plane. He's got a lot more money than JFFlhslep134;1773281 wrote:Not if he's going through a company (I believe); that's the whole point of those companies.
This story is just too outrageous for me to believe right now.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 4, 2016 10:19pm
Haha you drive your car straight to the jet. No one would see him.Midstate01;1773283 wrote:I don't underestimate that he could have gotten there. I just don't see how he did it without anyone seeing. Even if he flew private out of some tiny airport, people saw him. It just seems unlikely to me that's all.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 4, 2016 10:19pm
Dan Gilbert was found out because he was flying planes that were owned by companies that he was associated with. Chartering a private flight through a company is NOTHING like that.Midstate01;1773286 wrote:Can still track all flight logs. Remember all the plane tracking with Dan Gilbert's plane. He's got a lot more money than JFF
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 4, 2016 10:19pm
Midstate01;1773286 wrote:Can still track all flight logs. Remember all the plane tracking with Dan Gilbert's plane. He's got a lot more money than JFF
This story is just too outrageous for me to believe right now.
I just don't think you know how private flights work.

Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 4, 2016 10:20pm
Nope, not at all.SportsAndLady;1773274 wrote:I wouldn't send 32 for Payton.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 4, 2016 10:20pm
You can track Gilbert's plane because it's HIS PLANE. Manziel would be flying through a company. Can't really track that.Midstate01;1773286 wrote:Can still track all flight logs. Remember all the plane tracking with Dan Gilbert's plane. He's got a lot more money than JFF
This story is just too outrageous for me to believe right now.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jan 4, 2016 10:22pm
I think Mr. Manziel knew his goose was cooked with this organization when he showed up at the Brown's facility with "concussion symptoms". There's some buzz that he didn't have such a thing at all but rather they he was inebriated.
If that's the case he truly has a problem that he needs to get turned around soon or his life at some point will be even more tragic.
If that's the case he truly has a problem that he needs to get turned around soon or his life at some point will be even more tragic.

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 4, 2016 10:23pm
You're probably right. Flight logs are placed though right? So Saturday afternoon, you couldn't see what places left airports heading straight to vegas? I feel like there are just too many smart people out there to figure this out. Also I don't think JFF is this smart..
Lastly, If this were true, if I'm the Browns I'm fining him an insane amount for missing that Sunday check in.
Lastly, If this were true, if I'm the Browns I'm fining him an insane amount for missing that Sunday check in.

Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 4, 2016 10:24pm
Rumor on twitter making the rounds that a video will be coming out soon.

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 4, 2016 10:24pm
I guess I sorta hope it's true son they have more reason to boot his sorry ass, but don't want it to he because this will be pushed on Cleveland. Cleveland is so bad he did anything he could to get out blah blah.

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 4, 2016 10:26pm
@WillBurge: I can confirm with 100% certainty that Manziel was in Vegas raging with a blonde wig on. This is no BS. The video will be out soon #Browns
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jan 4, 2016 10:28pm
If he has a substance abuse problem and these acts are a result can they really "boot" him? Is there any obligation to assist him as an employee?Midstate01;1773300 wrote:I guess I sorta hope it's true son they have more reason to boot his sorry ass, but don't want it to he because this will be pushed on Cleveland. Cleveland is so bad he did anything he could to get out blah blah.

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 4, 2016 10:29pm
I have no idea. Probably not, if he's violating an agreement he had with the team. Which I thought it sounded like he had, after the rehab stint.Con_Alma;1773302 wrote:If he has a substance abuse problem and these acts are a result can they really "boot" him? Is there any obligation to assist him as an employee?
This is a disastrous mess...
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 5, 2016 7:48am