iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Oct 23, 2016 10:38am
Regardless of how he played in the one full game you watched of him, he's still by far the consensus best player in the draft. That said, Browns gotta take whoever they feel will have the biggest impact for the future.
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SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 23, 2016 10:41am
I agree. I'm not saying he's going to be a bust, just that he has bust potential. I think it was Crimson on this thread who was saying he's a sure-fire lock for a good DE in the NFL. No way is that true, EVERYONE has bust potential.iclfan2;1817945 wrote:Regardless of how he played in the one full game you watched of him, he's still by far the consensus best player in the draft. That said, Browns gotta take whoever they feel will have the biggest impact for the future.
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Crimson streak
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Oct 23, 2016 11:25am
I didn't say he's sure fire good DE, he has amazing potential and talent. He has a high motor and high character guy. He could have sat out the past 3 weeks the way his ankle is but he suits up and gives it his all. I didn't watch the game yesterday but other games he has just dominated. The couple plays I did see yesterday he blew by the tackle and dropped the RB in the back field for a loss. Obviously everyone has bust potential but I feel like he's a von miller/Suggs/ Harrison type player that can anchor your defense for the next 10 yearsSportsAndLady;1817947 wrote:I agree. I'm not saying he's going to be a bust, just that he has bust potential. I think it was Crimson on this thread who was saying he's a sure-fire lock for a good DE in the NFL. No way is that true, EVERYONE has bust potential.
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SportsAndLady
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Oct 23, 2016 12:31pm
Agree with everything you said. I just don't agree with taking him 1 overall over a QB.Crimson streak;1817953 wrote:I didn't say he's sure fire good DE, he has amazing potential and talent. He has a high motor and high character guy. He could have sat out the past 3 weeks the way his ankle is but he suits up and gives it his all. I didn't watch the game yesterday but other games he has just dominated. The couple plays I did see yesterday he blew by the tackle and dropped the RB in the back field for a loss. Obviously everyone has bust potential but I feel like he's a von miller/Suggs/ Harrison type player that can anchor your defense for the next 10 years
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If we have the ability to take the #1 rated QB in the draft (for the first time since '99), and we take a DE, I'm going to be pissed. The Browns have struggled since '99 because we haven't had a franchise QB. We have teh ability to take the best option for a franchise QB, and we are going to pass to get someone to anchor our D-line?
DOn't get me wrong, the D-line is probably the second most important position to build on a football team. But we've been DESPERATE for a QB, and if we continue to trade down or pass on highly rated QB's, we will never be more than a 7 win team.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 23, 2016 1:01pm
Those don't look like Browns uniforms
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 23, 2016 1:08pm
Anyone besides Calhoun and Taylor even trying? It looks like Browns playing defense 7 or 8 players.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Oct 23, 2016 1:12pm
This defense is the worst. Hill just running wild.
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iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Oct 23, 2016 1:13pm
And that 2 and 6 play where they threw across the middle and no one was within 10 yards...
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wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Oct 23, 2016 1:31pm
TF was that first down play? 3 OL lol
Ironman92
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Oct 23, 2016 1:32pm
The first drive honestly looked like the d coordinator put $100,000 down on a bet that Bengals would score a TD on their first possession and offered $5,000 to everyone but Calhoun and Tayloriclfan2;1817976 wrote:And that 2 and 6 play where they threw across the middle and no one was within 10 yards...
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like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 23, 2016 1:43pm
Carson Wentz already with 2 INTs and a fumble. He hasn't looked good since their bye week. Can we settle down on the "BROWNS SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED HIM" QQing?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 23, 2016 1:44pm
No. Browns should have drafted him.like_that;1817982 wrote:Carson Wentz already with 2 INTs and a fumble. He hasn't looked good since their bye week. Can we settle down on the "BROWNS SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED HIM" QQing?
The Vikings have the best defense in the NFL. I'm not expecting a rookie to tear them up. Or even look decent.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Oct 23, 2016 1:48pm
Brownies have a little mo here now. Defense got a 3 and out and the offense looks capable.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 23, 2016 1:49pm
Lol at Bengals. If they fall for that a 3rd time...well I just hope it happens
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 23, 2016 1:50pm
Lol....and they just did. WTF?Ironman92;1817987 wrote:Lol at Bengals. If they fall for that a 3rd time...well I just hope it happens
Hey Cincy defense....Hogan isn't going to hand off....he gonna run.
3 carries 38 yards
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Oct 23, 2016 1:51pm
The bengals losing this game would be a bengals thing to do.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 23, 2016 1:52pm
Browns finally have a QB!
Lol
Lol
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 23, 2016 1:52pm
Also, Cam Erving sucks.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 23, 2016 1:53pm
Wow, crazy shovel pass and gets destroyed. What a play though
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 23, 2016 1:54pm
Kessler has to have a concussion from Peko
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 23, 2016 1:55pm
I am still not sold on him at all. Eagles defense and running game have won most of their games. They have protected Carson with short routes and a good running game. In those 3 wins, he simply had to not fuck up. Without Lane Johnson, that plan has been exposed so far. If the defense isn't on for the eagles, the offensive game plan has to be much different than the "just don't make any mistakes carson" approach that hey have taken.SportsAndLady;1817983 wrote:No. Browns should have drafted him.
The Vikings have the best defense in the NFL. I'm not expecting a rookie to tear them up. Or even look decent.
If there is anyone the Browns should have drafted at QB it should have been Dak.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 23, 2016 1:56pm
88 yards to 0 this quarter
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 23, 2016 2:02pm
I'm big on Wentz, overall, not just because of his 3 game start. Sounds like you are the opposite. Just difference of opinion on one player. Neither of us are wrong or right, right now.like_that;1817994 wrote:I am still not sold on him at all. Eagles defense and running game have won most of their games. They have protected Carson with short routes and a good running game. In those 3 wins, he simply had to not fuck up. Without Lane Johnson, that plan has been exposed so far. If the defense isn't on for the eagles, the offensive game plan has to be much different than the "just don't make any mistakes carson" approach that hey have taken.
If there is anyone the Browns should have drafted at QB it should have been Dak.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Oct 23, 2016 2:02pm
Wow the browns ground game is destroying the Bengals defense right now. Hope Kessler comes back out
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SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 23, 2016 2:02pm
/Con Alma'dSportsAndLady;1817999 wrote:I'm big on Wentz, overall, not just because of his 3 game start. Sounds like you are the opposite. Just difference of opinion on one player. Neither of us are wrong or right, right now.