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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Dec 11, 2015 10:49am
sherm03;1768493 wrote:You missed the AND portion of my statement. Carter blocked Iranians. But he didn't block Iranians AND say that if Iranian-Americans left the country they wouldn't be allowed back in as well. Trump wants to block Muslims AND not let Muslim Americans back into the country if they leave.
Oh, .............and he deported Iranian students. Forgot that part.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/now-theres-video-jimmy-carter-bans-iranian-immigrants-from-us-deported-students-during-hostage-crisis/

FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Dec 11, 2015 10:54am
I would have no problem with trump deporting isis studentsQuakerOats;1768948 wrote:Oh, .............and he deported Iranian students. Forgot that part.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/now-theres-video-jimmy-carter-bans-iranian-immigrants-from-us-deported-students-during-hostage-crisis/
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Dec 11, 2015 12:29pm
FatHobbit;1768950 wrote:I would have no problem with trump deporting isis students
What, and decrease diversity on campus ....................you're crazy.

CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Dec 14, 2015 5:24am
Not that I know of. I was being facetious, almost to the extreme.FatHobbit;1768377 wrote:Has it been verified that they don't investigate at all? My wife came here on a K1 visa and we had to pay a couple thousand dollars. It would not surprise me if that just went into someone's pocket and they didn't do anything but I always assumed...
Although I have voted republican a few times (moreso on a local/state level then federal), I'm usually registered as a democrat because of local interests more than anything else. Am I conservative? Yeah. But repubs as a whole are just as plastic as dems. Once you get to a certain level they are all pliable IMO.ptown_trojans_1;1768418 wrote:Sorry again, I do not want my Government to discriminate anyone based on religion. It sets an awful awful precedent,
I'm kind of stunned you R's want the Government to have the ability to do that.
As far as the visa application process, it has nothing to do with religion. It would make sense to me to at least verify addresses, don't you think? What would it take to click on Google Maps or something (insert a lol here). Something like 30 seconds, if you're a slow typer, to type in an address into some sort of program to see if it exists. If it takes a while for this process to happen anyway, what is 30 seconds more? Will it create a burden on the process? How much more time could it actually create per individual? Will it need a vast increase in labor?
I wouldn't think so, but again, these are questions that I really think are valid and wouldn't put anybody into a tough position to answer, no matter their political affiliation.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Dec 14, 2015 7:45am
Seems pretty obvious that they did no vetting of this particular terrorist.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/us/san-bernardino-attacks-us-visa-process-tashfeen-maliks-remarks-on-social-media-about-jihad-were-missed.html?_r=0&referer=http://www.drudgereport.com/
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/us/san-bernardino-attacks-us-visa-process-tashfeen-maliks-remarks-on-social-media-about-jihad-were-missed.html?_r=0&referer=http://www.drudgereport.com/

Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Dec 15, 2015 10:50pm
when it comes to social media, I wonder how they will handle it. if someone sets their facebook profiles to private, do they really expect these investigators to get search warrants for every single applicant/refugee or whatever? if so, what is the probable cause to get the warrant? its not a crime to want to be a citizen.superman;1769349 wrote:Seems pretty obvious that they did no vetting of this particular terrorist.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/us/san-bernardino-attacks-us-visa-process-tashfeen-maliks-remarks-on-social-media-about-jihad-were-missed.html?_r=0&referer=http://www.drudgereport.com/
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Dec 16, 2015 2:31am
Seems pretty obvious to me. You put a line in the application, "By submitting this application you give agree to allow the US government access to all online profiles until your citizenship is official."Glory Days;1769698 wrote:when it comes to social media, I wonder how they will handle it. if someone sets their facebook profiles to private, do they really expect these investigators to get search warrants for every single applicant/refugee or whatever? if so, what is the probable cause to get the warrant? its not a crime to want to be a citizen.

Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Dec 16, 2015 10:39pm
i think I just heard a liberal's head explode.superman;1769708 wrote:Seems pretty obvious to me. You put a line in the application, "By submitting this application you give agree to allow the US government access to all online profiles until your citizenship is official."
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Dec 17, 2015 6:01am
Better than seeing a couple hundred bodies explode.Glory Days;1769871 wrote:i think I just heard a liberal's head explode.