Chicago Police Officer shoots 17 year old 16 times

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Nov 26, 2015 8:29am
Glory Days;1765911 wrote:which is even more reason why one bullet wouldn't have any effect. you clearly know nothing about PCP.
Maybe an extra few bullets. But 16?
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Nov 26, 2015 10:22am
Didn't the report say 14 shots were fired after the suspect had already fallen to the ground?
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Nov 26, 2015 10:29am
GOONx19;1765926 wrote:Didn't the report say 14 shots were fired after the suspect had already fallen to the ground?
Well, you know, PCP. The minute you stop shooting, if any of the dude's limbs are still attached or organs still connected, it's on!
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Nov 26, 2015 10:33am
Heretic;1765928 wrote:Well, you know, PCP. The minute you stop shooting, if any of the dude's limbs are still attached or organs still connected, it's on!
Always cracks me up seeing glory days defend cops on every single cop thread.
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Nov 26, 2015 5:10pm
GOONx19;1765926 wrote:Didn't the report say 14 shots were fired after the suspect had already fallen to the ground?
Irrelevant. If 1 shot was justified so were 16.
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Nov 26, 2015 5:44pm
Usually I am on the side of the fact that shooting the entire clip out is fine. In a lot of training. BUT there was quite the pause in shots, and the man was clearly down and not going anywhere. Then he unleashed again. I just can't find the justification in that.
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Nov 27, 2015 2:43am
SportsAndLady;1765929 wrote:Always cracks me up seeing glory days defend cops on every single cop thread.
don't worry, I get a good chuckle out of all the Monday morning quarterbacks who get their knowledge from CSI and Law and Order.
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Nov 27, 2015 2:55am
Midstate01;1765954 wrote:Usually I am on the side of the fact that shooting the entire clip out is fine. In a lot of training. BUT there was quite the pause in shots, and the man was clearly down and not going anywhere. Then he unleashed again. I just can't find the justification in that.
I haven't seen a video with sound so I am only going off sight, but it looks like there was 2 shots while the guy was withering on the ground with his hands tucked into his stomach. but then there is at least one shot while he is clearly isn't moving.
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Nov 27, 2015 3:02am
SportsAndLady;1765921 wrote:Maybe an extra few bullets. But 16?
there is no set number, you shoot until there is no longer a threat. without knowing how many shots were fired when, i'd say a guy with a knife probably is no longer a threat when he falls to the ground.
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Nov 27, 2015 10:27am
Glory Days;1765911 wrote:which is even more reason why one bullet wouldn't have any effect. you clearly know nothing about PCP.
You're right, because I've never taken PCP. I realize that there is no set number of shots that will take a person down. Every situation and person is different. But judging by this video, the guy went down within the first couple of shots. Hell, the officer kicked the knife away ten seconds after the guy hit the ground, thus eliminating the threat. To me, it looks excessive. Thankfully, the State agrees.
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Nov 27, 2015 10:45pm
And once again, if the black guy listens to cops and/or didn't take PCP he would be alive today.

All white people's fault though!
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Sonofanump
Dec 1, 2015 1:53pm
Rahm fired the police chief, not sure if it was warranted and what control the police chief had over the situation, but Rahm is a piece of shit and always will be a piece of shit.
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Dec 1, 2015 2:12pm
Sonofanump;1766773 wrote:Rahm fired the police chief, not sure if it was warranted and what control the police chief had over the situation, but Rahm is a piece of shit and always will be a piece of shit.
Rahm is a fucking scumbag. This screams cover up, so to save his ass, he's firing everyone around him.

Can't believe he got reelected despite his scandals.
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Dec 1, 2015 2:51pm
sleeper;1766061 wrote:And once again, if the black guy listens to cops and/or didn't take PCP he would be alive today.

All white people's fault though!

Exactly.

Of course, with so many black youths without a father to help teach respect for authority, this is bound to happen.
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Dec 1, 2015 2:52pm
QuakerOats;1766785 wrote:Exactly.

Of course, with so many black youths without a father to help teach respect for authority, this is bound to happen.
And you say you're not racist..
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Dec 1, 2015 2:59pm
SportsAndLady;1766786 wrote:And you say you're not racist..
I know Quaker has a lot of hot takes, but a lot of black kids group up with their fathers. There is a correlation with the behavior imo.
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Dec 1, 2015 3:11pm
like_that;1766791 wrote:I know Quaker has a lot of hot takes, but a lot of black kids group up with their fathers. There is a correlation with the behavior imo.
I know. He just throws out little racist jabs here and there and then maintains its just his political stance, not that he's actually racist. Riiiiight.
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Dec 1, 2015 4:03pm
SportsAndLady;1766775 wrote:Rahm is a fucking scumbag. This screams cover up, so to save his ass, he's firing everyone around him.

Can't believe he got reelected despite his scandals.
Throwing people under the bus, misdirection tactics, blaming others for their incompetency and denial of any knowledge of the situation is common Democrat Leadership Escape Plan 101 or your claim sleep deprivation or lie
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Dec 1, 2015 4:13pm
Belly35;1766802 wrote:Throwing people under the bus, misdirection tactics, blaming others for their incompetency and denial of any knowledge of the situation is common among any politician ever because they are all scumbag pieces of shit who don't give a fuck about you, me, or anyone other than the people who line their pockets...or your claim sleep deprivation or lie
Fixed it for you. LOL if you honestly think those things you mentioned are limited to just Democrats.
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Dec 2, 2015 4:09am
Sonofanump;1766773 wrote:Rahm fired the police chief, not sure if it was warranted and what control the police chief had over the situation, but Rahm is a piece of shit and always will be a piece of shit.
The chief has little say in this situation. The DA already saw the video a year ago and could have charged the cop then. the chief doesn't decide those things.
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Dec 2, 2015 10:20am
The fact Rahm got re-elected is all you need to know about that voter base. He's been a schmuck since day 1.


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Dec 2, 2015 10:26am
SportsAndLady;1766794 wrote:I know. He just throws out little racist jabs here and there and then maintains its just his political stance, not that he's actually racist. Riiiiight.

There was nothing racist about the comment whatsoever; it is simply fact. There are also more and more white kids without fathers in the home and the lack of personal responsibility and respect for authority on the part of many youths is rising.

Some telling stats here: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/360990/latest-statistics-out-wedlock-births-roger-clegg