Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 22, 2015 4:58pm
I meant Baylor!
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Nov 23, 2015 1:48pm
1. Clemson
2. Alabama
3. Oklahoma
4. Notre Dame
5. Iowa
6. MSU
7. Baylor
8. Ohio State
9. UNC
10. Florida
2. Alabama
3. Oklahoma
4. Notre Dame
5. Iowa
6. MSU
7. Baylor
8. Ohio State
9. UNC
10. Florida
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 28, 2015 11:20pm
1. Clemson
2. Oklahoma
3. Mich St
4. Bama
5. Ohio St
6. Iowa
7. Stanford
8. Florida St
9. UNC
10. ND
Playoff Rankings prediction:
1. Clemson
2. Oklahoma
3. Alabama
4. Mich St
5. Iowa
6. Ohio St
7. Stanford
8. Notre Dame
9. Florida St
10. UNC
Bama's best win? LSU or Miss St
The committee finds a way to get everyone talking.....maybe Iowa 4 and Bama 5. Maybe Iowa #2
Won't really matter much as the top 5 will all definitely control their own destiny
2. Oklahoma
3. Mich St
4. Bama
5. Ohio St
6. Iowa
7. Stanford
8. Florida St
9. UNC
10. ND
Playoff Rankings prediction:
1. Clemson
2. Oklahoma
3. Alabama
4. Mich St
5. Iowa
6. Ohio St
7. Stanford
8. Notre Dame
9. Florida St
10. UNC
Bama's best win? LSU or Miss St
The committee finds a way to get everyone talking.....maybe Iowa 4 and Bama 5. Maybe Iowa #2
Won't really matter much as the top 5 will all definitely control their own destiny
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Nov 28, 2015 11:27pm
So probably a Stanford/OSU Rose Bowl
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Nov 29, 2015 1:12pm
No way that an undefeated Iowa is out of the top 4.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 29, 2015 1:15pm
New Coaches poll is out...and yeah, I know, it's meaningless.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 29, 2015 1:43pm
It's moo anyways. Mich St should be #2 with 3 wins over top 16 teamsernest_t_bass;1766382 wrote:No way that an undefeated Iowa is out of the top 4.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 29, 2015 2:12pm
Yeah tell me again why Alabama is #2? They've beaten no one and have one of the worst losses in CFB this year.Ironman92;1766388 wrote:It's moo anyways. Mich St should be #2 with 3 wins over top 16 teams
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 29, 2015 2:42pm
No idea....should be behind Oklahoma as OK also has slightly better wins.sleeper;1766391 wrote:Yeah tell me again why Alabama is #2? They've beaten no one and have one of the worst losses in CFB this year.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Nov 29, 2015 3:21pm
It will be a travesty and full blown miscarriage of justice if the Buckeyes get in the playoff at this point.
Even if Clemson loses they have 2 top 10 wins. If NC wins, they will have a top 10 win.
The Buckeyes best win is a top 19 team. It is just not good enough, and if they have a problem with being left out try scheduling someone.
Even if Clemson loses they have 2 top 10 wins. If NC wins, they will have a top 10 win.
The Buckeyes best win is a top 19 team. It is just not good enough, and if they have a problem with being left out try scheduling someone.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Nov 29, 2015 4:36pm
If UNC wins ACC, their schedule would be weakerIggyPride00;1766400 wrote:It will be a travesty and full blown miscarriage of justice if the Buckeyes get in the playoff at this point.
Even if Clemson loses they have 2 top 10 wins. If NC wins, they will have a top 10 win.
The Buckeyes best win is a top 19 team. It is just not good enough, and if they have a problem with being left out try scheduling someone.
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Nov 29, 2015 4:56pm
Let me ask ... in order for OSU to get in to the playoff, Alabama needs to lose to Florida and Clemson to UNC, correct?
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Nov 29, 2015 4:57pm
They would have the better win between the two teams, as well as having the distinction of having beat the best team on their schedule while the Buckeyes lost to the best team on theirs.slingshot4ever;1766408 wrote:If UNC wins ACC, their schedule would be weaker
Seems rather cut and dry.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Nov 29, 2015 5:01pm
with 2 FCS opponents...those games are not included by the committee...so you could argue their final record is only 10-1 with a loss to an unranked SC teamIggyPride00;1766414 wrote:They would have the better win between the two teams, as well as having the distinction of having beat the best team on their schedule while the Buckeyes lost to the best team on theirs.
Seems rather cut and dry.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 29, 2015 5:01pm
Only 1Dr Winston O'Boogie;1766413 wrote:Let me ask ... in order for OSU to get in to the playoff, Alabama needs to lose to Florida and Clemson to UNC, correct?
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Nov 29, 2015 5:03pm
stanford could potentially jump OSU by winning Pac 12...I just don't see it happeningDr Winston O'Boogie;1766413 wrote:Let me ask ... in order for OSU to get in to the playoff, Alabama needs to lose to Florida and Clemson to UNC, correct?
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Nov 29, 2015 5:04pm
ESPN thinks we need all three of those upsets to happen (Florida, UNC, USC)
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 29, 2015 5:11pm
If we want 3rd then maybeslingshot4ever;1766422 wrote:ESPN thinks we need all three of those upsets to happen (Florida, UNC, USC)
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 29, 2015 5:45pm
Is Ole Miss a worse loss than Texas?
Also, Alabama's SOS is #5 according to Sagarin, while Oklahoma's is #20. They are 6-1 vs the top 30, while Oklahoma is 5-0 (Texas is #61).
...and Sagarin isn't based on polls or pre-season rankings or any of that, so there's no bias.
In fact, Alabama is by far the strong 1-loss team. Followed by Oklahoma, Ohio State and then Michigan State. North Carolina...well they are WAY down...and even with a dominating win over Clemson, I just don't see how they get considered.
Also, Alabama's SOS is #5 according to Sagarin, while Oklahoma's is #20. They are 6-1 vs the top 30, while Oklahoma is 5-0 (Texas is #61).
...and Sagarin isn't based on polls or pre-season rankings or any of that, so there's no bias.
In fact, Alabama is by far the strong 1-loss team. Followed by Oklahoma, Ohio State and then Michigan State. North Carolina...well they are WAY down...and even with a dominating win over Clemson, I just don't see how they get considered.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Nov 29, 2015 5:51pm
If the committee is more interested in who did you beat than who did you lose to the Buckeyes are screwed.slingshot4ever;1766417 wrote:with 2 FCS opponents...those games are not included by the committee...so you could argue their final record is only 10-1 with a loss to an unranked SC team
Michigan is their best win, and they are 19th in the country.
They didn't play anyone this year that was any good.
Beating Clemson (#1 team in the country) and winning the ACC would validate NC, and any concern about their schedule would fly out the window at that point.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 29, 2015 5:56pm
How is OSU stronger than MSU? To me that negates the entire argumentAzubuike24;1766432 wrote:Is Ole Miss a worse loss than Texas?
Also, Alabama's SOS is #5 according to Sagarin, while Oklahoma's is #20. They are 6-1 vs the top 30, while Oklahoma is 5-0 (Texas is #61).
...and Sagarin isn't based on polls or pre-season rankings or any of that, so there's no bias.
In fact, Alabama is by far the strong 1-loss team. Followed by Oklahoma, Ohio State and then Michigan State. North Carolina...well they are WAY down...and even with a dominating win over Clemson, I just don't see how they get considered.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 29, 2015 6:03pm
I'm just talking about how they rank resumes. Obviously it doesn't indicate head to head. Clearly the committee wouldn't see it that way...because there is a head to head match-up to use.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 29, 2015 6:21pm
That is pivotal to their resumes though.Azubuike24;1766439 wrote:I'm just talking about how they rank resumes. Obviously it doesn't indicate head to head. Clearly the committee wouldn't see it that way...because there is a head to head match-up to use.
MSU beat OSU at OSU, probable #6 team, beat Oregon guessing #14 this week and then UM, guessing at #16
OSU has beaten UM, the guessed #16 team....the rest of the schedule maybe a slight advantage to OSU compared to MSU but the Oregon win is looking better and better and the head to head at OSU is the clear tie-breaker.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 29, 2015 7:02pm
I get that. Sagarin is computer-based. So obviously it's not an exact thing. Like KenPom in college basketball...it ranks your overall body of work, but it doesn't differentiate between head to head wins or having top end wins over balanced overall wins. Definitely a flawed system, but it's a great source when you want to get away from things like polls where clearly name recognition, conference, history, previous rankings, come into play.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Nov 29, 2015 9:17pm
9 wins vs teams with a record of .500 or better and 8 of those have came against teams from P5 schools - 7 vs SEC, and Wisconsinsleeper;1766391 wrote:Yeah tell me again why Alabama is #2? They've beaten no one and have one of the worst losses in CFB this year.
Compared to other top teams and their wins...
#1 Clemson has 6 (with 4 vs ACC, 1 vs ND)
#3 Oklahoma has 8 and possibly 9 with a Kansas St win this weekend, as of now 6 have come vs P5 teams
#4 Iowa has 4 (all 4 vs P5)
#5 Sparty has 8 (5 vs P5)
#6 Ohio State has 5 (3 vs P5)
#7 Stanford has 6 (5 vs P12, 1 vs ND)
#8 North Carolina has 5 (all 5 vs ACC)