Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 14, 2015 11:54pm
Not sure how the playoff committee makes something crazy this week to get the talking going again. 1-4 can't change....
5. Iowa
6. Ok St
7-9 Florida, Oklahoma, Utah (if win)
10. Mich St?
Maybe a huge jump for UNC, Navy or Houston
5. Iowa
6. Ok St
7-9 Florida, Oklahoma, Utah (if win)
10. Mich St?
Maybe a huge jump for UNC, Navy or Houston
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 15, 2015 12:51pm
I didn't realize UNC only had 1 loss.
They'll make a huge jump
My guess:
1. Clemson
2. Bama
3. OSU
4. ND
5. Iowa
6. Ok St
7. Oklahoma
8. Florida
9. Mich St
10. Florida St
11. UNC
12. Michigan
13. Baylor
14. TCU
15. Northwestern
16. Stanford
17. Wisconsin
18. Navy
They'll make a huge jump
My guess:
1. Clemson
2. Bama
3. OSU
4. ND
5. Iowa
6. Ok St
7. Oklahoma
8. Florida
9. Mich St
10. Florida St
11. UNC
12. Michigan
13. Baylor
14. TCU
15. Northwestern
16. Stanford
17. Wisconsin
18. Navy
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Nov 15, 2015 2:29pm
Iowa didn't beat the #18 team on the road by 30 points? Tell me more
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 15, 2015 3:07pm
If a 1 loss OK beats TCU and OK St they should pass a 1 loss ND now that Stanford has lost.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 15, 2015 3:23pm
Heh?rydawg5;1763527 wrote:Iowa didn't beat the #18 team on the road by 30 points? Tell me more
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Nov 15, 2015 8:11pm
Texas with a common opponent is what complicates that. ND destroyed Texas, and OK lost to them.Tiernan;1763545 wrote:If a 1 loss OK beats TCU and OK St they should pass a 1 loss ND now that Stanford has lost.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 16, 2015 9:52am
The Temple win for ND is not that impressive now. Their marquee win is now NAVY. Hopefully Stanford takes care of business and silences all the ND BS anyway.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 16, 2015 10:19am
It really isn't about the quality of wins now. It's about the loss total. Enough has happened and enough is going to happen based on head to head attrition, that ND is almost a lock to get in the final 4 if they just don't lose.
You essentially have only 12 teams with any shot of making the final 4. Houston is 13th, but I'm excluding them at this point. You also have 8 of those 12 teams being 1-loss teams, who are assuredly out with a loss.
This weekend alone, you have Ohio State/Michigan State, Baylor/Oklahoma State, TCU/Oklahoma. If the unbeatens hold, you will have 3 of these 12 teams eliminated.
Next weekend, Baylor/TCU, Oklahoma State/Oklahoma and championship week, North Carolina/Clemson, Ohio State/Iowa, Florida/Alabama.
I don't know the odds, but I'd venture to say ND is a lock if they go 11-1.
You essentially have only 12 teams with any shot of making the final 4. Houston is 13th, but I'm excluding them at this point. You also have 8 of those 12 teams being 1-loss teams, who are assuredly out with a loss.
This weekend alone, you have Ohio State/Michigan State, Baylor/Oklahoma State, TCU/Oklahoma. If the unbeatens hold, you will have 3 of these 12 teams eliminated.
Next weekend, Baylor/TCU, Oklahoma State/Oklahoma and championship week, North Carolina/Clemson, Ohio State/Iowa, Florida/Alabama.
I don't know the odds, but I'd venture to say ND is a lock if they go 11-1.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 16, 2015 11:50am
Except you forgot to mention the committee does give extra weight to the conference championship game of which ND won't even participate in. ND isn't a lock by any means provided the 4 power conference champions with a championship game only have 1 loss.Azubuike24;1763787 wrote:It really isn't about the quality of wins now. It's about the loss total. Enough has happened and enough is going to happen based on head to head attrition, that ND is almost a lock to get in the final 4 if they just don't lose.
You essentially have only 12 teams with any shot of making the final 4. Houston is 13th, but I'm excluding them at this point. You also have 8 of those 12 teams being 1-loss teams, who are assuredly out with a loss.
This weekend alone, you have Ohio State/Michigan State, Baylor/Oklahoma State, TCU/Oklahoma. If the unbeatens hold, you will have 3 of these 12 teams eliminated.
Next weekend, Baylor/TCU, Oklahoma State/Oklahoma and championship week, North Carolina/Clemson, Ohio State/Iowa, Florida/Alabama.
I don't know the odds, but I'd venture to say ND is a lock if they go 11-1.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 16, 2015 2:45pm
ND shouldn't be a lock. I don't feel they are a top 4 team. The committee will definitely favor a champ, if they are equal with ND. A 2-loss champ? Nope.
With that said, Sleeper, the landscape of the playoff right now is setting up perfectly for ND. They aren't going to get beat out by a 2-loss team. No matter who that is. Unfortunately, for those NOT wanting to see ND, they better hope they lose, because with so many games head to head that will eliminate contenders, it's going to take the perfect scenario to keep a 1-loss ND out.
With that said, I truly believe whoever gets the #1 seed gets a big break against ND in the semis. For instance, you could see an Ohio State/Alabama semi final while Clemson plays Notre Dame. That would be a huge break.
With that said, Sleeper, the landscape of the playoff right now is setting up perfectly for ND. They aren't going to get beat out by a 2-loss team. No matter who that is. Unfortunately, for those NOT wanting to see ND, they better hope they lose, because with so many games head to head that will eliminate contenders, it's going to take the perfect scenario to keep a 1-loss ND out.
With that said, I truly believe whoever gets the #1 seed gets a big break against ND in the semis. For instance, you could see an Ohio State/Alabama semi final while Clemson plays Notre Dame. That would be a huge break.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 16, 2015 2:49pm
Actually, if you want ND out, you should root for the following...
Michigan State beats Ohio State, neither team loses the rest of the way
Michigan State beats unbeaten Iowa in the Big Ten Championship
Alabama and Florida remain unbeaten until the SEC Championship
North Carolina beats unbeaten Clemson in the ACC Championship
Oklahoma beats Oklahoma State, neither team loses any other games
Baylor, TCU, Florida/Alabama would be eliminated, but you would then end up with eight 1-loss teams including Notre Dame. This would be a clusterfuck, but it would pretty much eliminate the Irish from the discussion as the four 1-loss conference champs would likely make it in.
Michigan State beats Ohio State, neither team loses the rest of the way
Michigan State beats unbeaten Iowa in the Big Ten Championship
Alabama and Florida remain unbeaten until the SEC Championship
North Carolina beats unbeaten Clemson in the ACC Championship
Oklahoma beats Oklahoma State, neither team loses any other games
Baylor, TCU, Florida/Alabama would be eliminated, but you would then end up with eight 1-loss teams including Notre Dame. This would be a clusterfuck, but it would pretty much eliminate the Irish from the discussion as the four 1-loss conference champs would likely make it in.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 16, 2015 3:38pm
I don't want ND out. I want them to play Ohio State in game 1 so we can rest our starters for the championship game.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 16, 2015 4:28pm
Very decent chance that if OSU wins out and ND wins out, that's one semifinal.
While Clemson winning out, you would figure they stay #1, I don't see the committee having a rematch of a regular season game in a semi.
Ohio State vs Notre Dame
Clemson vs Alabama
While Clemson winning out, you would figure they stay #1, I don't see the committee having a rematch of a regular season game in a semi.
Ohio State vs Notre Dame
Clemson vs Alabama
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 16, 2015 4:32pm
That would be the dream scenario if you are a Buckeyes fan. Nightmare from hell if you are an Irish fan.Azubuike24;1763895 wrote:Very decent chance that if OSU wins out and ND wins out, that's one semifinal.
While Clemson winning out, you would figure they stay #1, I don't see the committee having a rematch of a regular season game in a semi.
Ohio State vs Notre Dame
Clemson vs Alabama
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 16, 2015 4:35pm
Well, certainly OSU has to like their chances, but I'd think most Irish fans would take just making the playoff at this point.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Nov 16, 2015 5:23pm
Agreed. If we do make the playoff I would love to play Clemson again. Definitely think we are the better team. Ohio st. And bama not so much lol. Unless somehow the secondary figures out how not to give up big plays smh.Azubuike24;1763898 wrote:Well, certainly OSU has to like their chances, but I'd think most Irish fans would take just making the playoff at this point.
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Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 22, 2015 11:37am
My top 10
1. Clemson
2. Alabama
3. Mich St
4. Oklahoma
5. Iowa
6. Ohio St
7. Baylor
8. Notre Dame
9. Michigan
10. Oregon
11. Florida St
12. Oklahoma St
13. UNC
14. Florida
15. Navy
16. Northwestern
New Playoff Rankings prediction
1. Clemson
2. Bama
3. Notre Dame
4. Iowa
5. Oklahoma
6. Mich St
7. Baylor
8. Ohio St
9. Florida
10. Ok St
11. Stanford
12. Michigan
13. Florida St
14. UNC
15. Navy
16. Northwestern
17. Oregon
18. Ole Miss
19. TCU
20. Utah
1. Clemson
2. Alabama
3. Mich St
4. Oklahoma
5. Iowa
6. Ohio St
7. Baylor
8. Notre Dame
9. Michigan
10. Oregon
11. Florida St
12. Oklahoma St
13. UNC
14. Florida
15. Navy
16. Northwestern
New Playoff Rankings prediction
1. Clemson
2. Bama
3. Notre Dame
4. Iowa
5. Oklahoma
6. Mich St
7. Baylor
8. Ohio St
9. Florida
10. Ok St
11. Stanford
12. Michigan
13. Florida St
14. UNC
15. Navy
16. Northwestern
17. Oregon
18. Ole Miss
19. TCU
20. Utah
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Nov 22, 2015 12:06pm
OSU came in at 8 in coaches poll
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 22, 2015 12:11pm
Seems like the appropriate place to put themslingshot4ever;1765055 wrote:OSU came in at 8 in coaches poll
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 22, 2015 12:11pm
Iowa up to 3
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 22, 2015 12:14pm
Uh....we have a slight problem
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Nov 22, 2015 12:31pm
I'm pulling for Iowa all the way now
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Nov 22, 2015 12:59pm
agreedernest_t_bass;1765062 wrote:I'm pulling for Iowa all the way now
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 22, 2015 1:29pm
1. Clemson
2. Iowa
3. Alabama
4. Notre Dame
5. Oklahoma
6. Michigan State
7. Oklahoma
8. Florida
9. Ohio State
10. Oklahoma State
11. North Carolina
Nobody else is relevant to the playoff discussion. And really, only the top 8 are at this point. A 1-loss Big 12 champ who didn't beat all of the rest of the teams isn't getting in. Oklahoma, despite losing to Texas, would be heavily considered if they get wins over Baylor, TCU and Oklahoma State. I still feel they are well on the outside looking in though...unless Notre Dame or the Big 10/SEC Champ is a 2-loss team.
A 1-loss Alabama/Florida or 1-loss Michigan State will get the nod over Oklahoma.
2. Iowa
3. Alabama
4. Notre Dame
5. Oklahoma
6. Michigan State
7. Oklahoma
8. Florida
9. Ohio State
10. Oklahoma State
11. North Carolina
Nobody else is relevant to the playoff discussion. And really, only the top 8 are at this point. A 1-loss Big 12 champ who didn't beat all of the rest of the teams isn't getting in. Oklahoma, despite losing to Texas, would be heavily considered if they get wins over Baylor, TCU and Oklahoma State. I still feel they are well on the outside looking in though...unless Notre Dame or the Big 10/SEC Champ is a 2-loss team.
A 1-loss Alabama/Florida or 1-loss Michigan State will get the nod over Oklahoma.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 22, 2015 3:49pm
I think you forgot Oklahoma [emoji1]Azubuike24;1765072 wrote:1. Clemson
2. Iowa
3. Alabama
4. Notre Dame
5. Oklahoma
6. Michigan State
7. Oklahoma
8. Florida
9. Ohio State
10. Oklahoma State
11. North Carolina
Nobody else is relevant to the playoff discussion. And really, only the top 8 are at this point. A 1-loss Big 12 champ who didn't beat all of the rest of the teams isn't getting in. Oklahoma, despite losing to Texas, would be heavily considered if they get wins over Baylor, TCU and Oklahoma State. I still feel they are well on the outside looking in though...unless Notre Dame or the Big 10/SEC Champ is a 2-loss team.
A 1-loss Alabama/Florida or 1-loss Michigan State will get the nod over Oklahoma.