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Belly35

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Sep 24, 2015 2:53 AM
Understanding the j1939 protocol in relationship to the ecm unit any alteration is a planned and researched development project.
Sep 23, 2015 10:53pm
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FatHobbit

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Sep 24, 2015 4:08 AM
Belly35;1752782 wrote:Understanding the j1939 protocol in relationship to the ecm unit any alteration is a planned and researched development project.
They actually wrote the software to detect if the emissions were being tested and only if they were to turn on the emissions control. It was no accident. (I know you already said it was intentional. I'm only pointing out that there is no doubt)
Sep 24, 2015 12:08am
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4cards

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Sep 24, 2015 11:29 AM
...looks like the Germany govt. was also aware of what VW was doing & turned a blind eye to it.
Sep 24, 2015 7:29am
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bases_loaded

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Sep 24, 2015 11:32 AM
My car isn't doing near the damage as corporations in China. This is what happens when you become too popular and people are buying you over GM hybrids and diesels.


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Sep 24, 2015 7:32am
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4cards

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Sep 24, 2015 12:41 PM
bases_loaded;1752801 wrote:My car isn't doing near the damage as corporations in China. This is what happens when you become too popular and people are buying you over GM hybrids and diesels.


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...agree!
Sep 24, 2015 8:41am
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ernest_t_bass

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Sep 24, 2015 1:08 PM
Just hike up the import tax. I think this regulation is absurd anyway.
Sep 24, 2015 9:08am
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Commander of Awesome

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Sep 24, 2015 1:52 PM
ernest_t_bass;1752826 wrote:Just hike up the import tax. I think this regulation is absurd anyway.
Why is it absurd?
Sep 24, 2015 9:52am
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Tiernan

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Sep 24, 2015 1:57 PM
The CEO, Adolf Fraudmeyer resigned last night.
Sep 24, 2015 9:57am
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ernest_t_bass

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Sep 24, 2015 2:02 PM
Commander of Awesome;1752836 wrote:Why is it absurd?
b/c my opinion is that most of these regulations are overkill anyway.

Edit: Why is it not a worldwide "regulation?"
Sep 24, 2015 10:02am
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Sep 24, 2015 2:36 PM
ernest_t_bass;1752842 wrote: Why is it not a worldwide "regulation?"
Who would enforce it?
Sep 24, 2015 10:36am
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Sep 24, 2015 3:01 PM
FatHobbit;1752846 wrote:Who would enforce it?
Sep 24, 2015 11:01am
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QuakerOats

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Sep 24, 2015 3:18 PM
When will heads roll at the EPA for the ACTUAL mass pollution of the river out west affecting multiple states and killing untold numbers of wildlife and habitat?
Sep 24, 2015 11:18am
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ernest_t_bass

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Sep 24, 2015 3:26 PM
QuakerOats;1752856 wrote:When will heads roll at the EPA for the ACTUAL mass pollution of the river out west affecting multiple states and killing untold numbers of wildlife and habitat?
No, dude... cars.
Sep 24, 2015 11:26am
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Tiernan

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Sep 24, 2015 3:32 PM
Tiernan;1752838 wrote:The CEO, Adolf Fraudmeyer resigned last night.
C'mon...nothing really?
Sep 24, 2015 11:32am
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Sep 24, 2015 3:38 PM
ernest_t_bass;1752860 wrote:No, dude... cars.
We're talking QQuaker. No matter the topic or issue, he will change it to something he feels like bitching about. And with over a year until the next big election, he's just going to get worse. At least until he gets the Tiernan Thread-Ban Special every time he goes off topic.
Sep 24, 2015 11:38am
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Sep 24, 2015 3:44 PM
QuakerOats;1752856 wrote:When will heads roll at the EPA for the ACTUAL mass pollution of the river out west affecting multiple states and killing untold numbers of wildlife and habitat?
Shut up and go hug a tree.
Sep 24, 2015 11:44am
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Tiernan

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Sep 24, 2015 3:45 PM
^^^
Ahhh so you do admit there is a conspiracy?
Sep 24, 2015 11:45am
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Sep 24, 2015 3:56 PM
Tiernan;1752862 wrote:C'mon...nothing really?
No one laughed because it wasn't funny. Dumbass.
Sep 24, 2015 11:56am
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Belly35

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Sep 24, 2015 5:13 PM
FatHobbit;1752794 wrote:They actually wrote the software to detect if the emissions were being tested and only if they were to turn on the emissions control. It was no accident. (I know you already said it was intentional. I'm only pointing out that there is no doubt)
I know more about this topic and the development of J1939 .... and to think I'm the stupid one... :)
The software is only the minor issue but the development of a chip that alters the J1939 protocol chip signals/data within the ecm unit and the instrumentation is truly the evidence (work related) of a planned and intentional act.

This is where the EPA and Government around the world are clueless about what they do and or want in trying to protect the environment. Blame the obvious .. smoke come out of diesel engine and cars bad emission and mileage but India, China, Europe and even Canada spew out manufacturing smoke and particulates by the tons … but let America destroy there manufacturing, displace jobs and pressure a diesel and auto market into unrealistic standard.

I like to thank the VW company … Belly has a idea …
Sep 24, 2015 1:13pm
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Tiernan

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Sep 24, 2015 5:14 PM
DeyDurkie5;1752870 wrote:No one laughed because it wasn't funny. Dumbass.
Yeah I sometimes forget my brand of humor requires a fairly sophisticated palate.
Sep 24, 2015 1:14pm
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QuakerOats

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Sep 24, 2015 6:03 PM
Heretic;1752866 wrote:We're talking QQuaker. No matter the topic or issue, he will change it to something he feels like bitching about. And with over a year until the next big election, he's just going to get worse. At least until he gets the Tiernan Thread-Ban Special every time he goes off topic.

Not changing the topic; merely contrasting what occurs when bad things happen in the private sector as opposed to BIG government. In one instance, accountability comes in to play and people pay dearly for their mistakes and transgressions; conversely nothing happens to those on the Left in BIG government who do likewise.

Again, you cannot control your emotions towards a poster and it clouds rational debate on the topic.
Sep 24, 2015 2:03pm
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superman

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Sep 25, 2015 3:28 AM
This sounds pretty far fetched. C'mon, would the Germans ever try to kill someone with poison gas?
Sep 24, 2015 11:28pm
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Tiernan

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Sep 25, 2015 3:31 AM
superman;1752996 wrote:This sounds pretty far fetched. C'mon, would the Germans ever try to kill someone with poison gas?
OK now THATs funny!
Sep 24, 2015 11:31pm