JFF has to make some plays through the air. Teams are already cheating the SS to in the box, so I dont expect Crow to have some running lanes unless JFF proves he can make some throws. Not talking dinkers and dunkers either, needs to throw intermediate+ throws to get that safety out of the box. Do that, we can win this one.

Commander of Awesome;1751684 wrote:TD throw to Benjamin?

Sure in a loss. Great. Grand. He fucking blows.

sleeper;1751688 wrote:Sure in a loss. Great. Grand. He fucking blows.

That put us up 7-0, and came on 3rd and 13. I liked it.

Commander of Awesome;1751691 wrote:That put us up 7-0, and came on 3rd and 13. I liked it.

It was 3rd and 19.

Listening to the Bruce Hooley show. He says it will take 3 years of evaluating Johnny. Smart man. He is chastising all the Merryll Hoges of theworld that want to cut Manziel now, or grade him after Sunday's game. Then he listed the 3 game inaugurations of P. Manninmg (50% completion, 2 TD's, 8 picks), Kosar almost as bad. and John Elway...all horrible after 3 games. Bradshaw, Aikman. Phil Sims were all equally bad. But all the know it alls have it figured out.

Footwedge;1751704 wrote:Listening to the Bruce Hooley show. He says it will take 3 years of evaluating Johnny. Smart man. He is chastising all the Merryll Hoges of theworld that want to cut Manziel now, or grade him after Sunday's game. Then he listed the 3 game inaugurations of P. Manninmg (50% completion, 2 TD's, 8 picks), Kosar almost as bad. and John Elway...all horrible after 3 games. Bradshaw, Aikman. Phil Sims were all equally bad. But all the know it alls have it figured out.

Hodge is the worst. There's a reason why his media presence is fading.

GoChiefs;1751623 wrote:I like how he's already setting up his excuses for when Johnny fails. Lol

Dropping passes and no running game are not excuses but the realities of the situation when he plays. That needs to change. If you haven't noticed that then take up basket weaving.

Footwedge;1751706 wrote:Dropping passes and no running game are not excuses but the realities of the situation when he plays. That needs to change. If you haven't noticed that then take up basket weaving.

Big reason why there isn't a running game? JFF has yet to prove he can find the open wide receiver and beat 8 men in the box. Nice fail.

Commander of Awesome;1751708 wrote:Big reason why there isn't a running game? JFF has yet to prove he can find the open wide receiver and beat 8 men in the box. Nice fail.

You think Footwedge is capable of understanding cause and effect? lol

Commander of Awesome;1751708 wrote:Big reason why there isn't a running game? JFF has yet to prove he can find the open wide receiver and beat 8 men in the box. Nice fail.

Nobody played 8 in the box on Sunday. If so Pettinne would have lamented those sentiments in his pressers. What Pettine said was just the opposite. He said...in not so many words, the line blew...and so did the running backs. He talked about the backs needing to break tackles which they never did...and using his words, "the backs can't be one and done". I trust the head coach knows more about it than either you or LHShemp does.

In a development that no one could have possibly foreseen, Footwedge is unequivocally wrong again. Once McCown went out, the Jets absolutely played closer to the line of scrimmage. Even if it wasn't "8 men in the box", which it was at time, it was often times 6 or 7 players bull-rushing the line of scrimmage or showing blitz even if they backed off.

Only a truly delusional person could look at the film from last week and say the Jets weren't forcing JFF to beat them with his arm. Then again, Footwedge is a truly delusional person when it comes to Cleveland sports.

lhslep134;1751790 wrote:In a development that no one could have possibly foreseen, Footwedge is unequivocally wrong again. Once McCown went out, the Jets absolutely played closer to the line of scrimmage. Even if it wasn't "8 men in the box", which it was at time, it was often times 6 or 7 players bull-rushing the line of scrimmage or showing blitz even if they backed off.

Only a truly delusional person could look at the film from last week and say the Jets weren't forcing JFF to beat them with his arm. Then again, Footwedge is a truly delusional person when it comes to Cleveland sports.

Shemp you continue to outdo yourself.f. Apparently what Pettinne had to say doesn't resonate with your pea brain.

But enough wasting time with you. For all the Johhny bashers out there...one last time for people who think "johnny should dominate...blah, blah. blah"

Reiviewing first year stats for 6 hall of famequarterbacks, arguably the second best Browns quarterback ever. and a guy that won 2 super bowls..time to get an edumication...

lhslep134;1751790 wrote:In a development that no one could have possibly foreseen, Footwedge is unequivocally wrong again. Once McCown went out, the Jets absolutely played closer to the line of scrimmage. Even if it wasn't "8 men in the box", which it was at time, it was often times 6 or 7 players bull-rushing the line of scrimmage or showing blitz even if they backed off.

Only a truly delusional person could look at the film from last week and say the Jets weren't forcing JFF to beat them with his arm. Then again, Footwedge is a truly delusional person when it comes to Cleveland sports.

Shemp you continue to outdo yourself. Apparently what Pettinne had to say doesn't resonate with your pea brain. If cheating to stop the run as you say was the problem, Pettinne would have said so. He blamed the line and the putrid effort of the backs and anybody that understands football and actually watched the game would agree with the ghad coach's assessment.

But enough wasting time with you. For all the Johhny bashers out there...one last time for people who think "johnny should dominate...blah, blah. blah"

Reviewing first year stats for 6 hall of fame quarterbacks, arguably the second best Browns quarterback ever. and a guy that won 2 super bowls....time to get an edumication...

Elway First year 7 TD 14 picks 47.5 completion% and a 54.9 rating
S. Young First year 8 TD 13 picks 52.2 Completion% and a 65.5 rating
Bradshaw First year 6 TD 24 picks 38.1 Completion% and a rating of 30.4
Aikman First year 9 TD 18 picks 52 Completion% and a rating of 55.7
Kosar first year 8 TD 7 picks 50% completion% and a rating of 69.3
P Manning first year 26 TD 28 picks 56.7% completion% and a 71.2 rating.
Eli Manning first year 6 TD 9 picks 48.2% completion% and a 55.4 rating
Stauback first year (6 games) 1 TD 2 picks 48% completion% and a 69.5 rating.

And then there are those that say I am making excuses for Johnny? Really? LOL And then there are brilliant people like S & L that say Manziel should have dominated last week. LOLOL.

This town has a future pro bowler franchise quarterback and they will run his ass out of town...watch and see.

I'm not old enough to have seen most of these guys rookie seasons but when I watched Peyton and Eli their rookie years you could tell they were going to be good despite their stats. With JF I just don't see anything that looksije he can succeed in the NFL.

Sexond Point and why Hooley is an idiot is Quaterbacks don't get three years in the NFL anymore. It might not be the best thing for the QB but it's the reality of the NFL.

Manzier won't finish the game tomorrow and I'll laugh my ass off when he goes down.

Tiernan;1751882 wrote:Manzier won't finish the game tomorrow and I'll laugh my ass off when he goes down.

I'm praying for Tiernan.

The factory of sadness is officially open for business today.

The Johnny Football era officially opens or closes today. If he plays well the job is his going forward. If he doesn't, that may be the last time we see Johnny football as this fan base will turn against him completely.

If we could ever generate even half the amount of hatred towards our coaches and front office as we do the Quarterbacks we would have multiple super bowls by now.

The fans seem to expect accountability and results from that position that it doesn't from the guys who buy the groceries and then cook with them (coach and Gm).

Jason La Canforna reporting this morning that the coaching staff desperately wants to cut Bowe but Ray Farmer not allowing it.

IggyPride00;1751956 wrote:Jason La Canforna reporting this morning that the coaching staff desperately wants to cut Bowe but Ray Farmer not allowing it.

Interesting that the local guys aren't reporting same thing. Only Lombardi & Shanny's media bitch boy.

So I couldn't get into the Browns Bar this morning...first time in Chicago I wasn't able to get in. Pissed me off....woke up too late and I guess people are excited about Johnny Football

Anyways...going to have to stream this game from my home today...i've never done this for NFL...is it pretty difficult or are there usually good streams out there?

SportsAndLady;1751966 wrote:So I couldn't get into the Browns Bar this morning...first time in Chicago I wasn't able to get in. Pissed me off....woke up too late and I guess people are excited about Johnny Football

Anyways...going to have to stream this game from my home today...i've never done this for NFL...is it pretty difficult or are there usually good streams out there?

There are at least 4 browns bars within a 2 Blk radius last time I was Chicago.

To answer your question, you can usually get a feed that's akin to non hd video. It'll get the job done.

Commander of Awesome;1751969 wrote:There are at least 4 browns bars within a 2 Blk radius last time I was Chicago.

I am very loyal to Red Ivy

Red Ivy's is so good, soon as you go there, you won't want to do any other Browns backers bar.

SportsAndLady;1751970 wrote:I am very loyal to Red Ivy

Field house was the one I went to. It was solid.

Never been to Field House but heard it's a good time...is that the one where they have the Elf mascot there lol